Hi Bob I think getting the wills of Isaac and if there is one of William might help. My wife's 3xGGrandfather's will was witnessed by two people with the same surname who I could not associate with him. Eventually from a will and use of the census and parish records it turned out they were cousins. Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Sanders" <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: [B&S] WEBLEY, Isaac > Josephine > > Thanks for replying. I did have the information on Isaac Webley marriages > as > I have the BFHS transcripts. I think Isaac & Sarah were the parents of > William whose two children were the executors of Ambrose's will but I > cannot > see any relationship to Ambrose. > > Regards & Happy Christmas > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 18 December 2010 23:16 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could have > been so different (Josephine Jeremiah) > 2. Re: Frank LINDSELL (Josephine Jeremiah) > 3. St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > (Josephine Jeremiah) > 4. Re: St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > (David Lindsell) > 5. Re: Christmas tradition (Josephine Jeremiah) > 6. Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas on > Bristol map of 1910 (Josephine Jeremiah) > 7. The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, 1916 ( > was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) (Josephine Jeremiah) > 8. WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 (was A > Family Conundrum !) (Josephine Jeremiah) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:05:48 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could > have been so different > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnwxfymk42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > For anyone interested in Brunel, there's an article in the Evening Post on > how Bristol's famous Clifton Suspension Bridge could have been so > different: > > http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Iconic-landmark-different/article-302103 > 2-detail/article.html > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: Re: [B&S] Frank LINDSELL > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnw44xja42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > Hi David, > > As far as I know, there wasn't a James Street in Clifton, but Clifton may > be the registration district on your great-grandfather's birth > certificate. If it was the registration district, then a possible address > might be James Street, which was once between Grosvenor Street and Ashley > Road in Bristol. Three streets, which were parallel with James Street, are > still there. They are William Street, Denbigh Street and Campbell Street. > > I say possible address because, although I know that James Street, near > Grosvenor Road, was built by 1875, I don't know if it was there in 1863. > > If this is the right James Street, then a church where your > great-grandfather could have been baptized could have been St. Barnabas, > which was close by, at the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnw44xsw42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >> information would you expect to find from his baptism? > > Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely > church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. > > In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my > families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. > > If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is > the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on > the following web page: > > http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000 > From: "David Lindsell" <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D5E54120951243D3BEBA07A5A939F477@d824a89acdee04> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church but > will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors were > baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:51 PM > Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > > >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell >> <trained@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >>> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >>> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? >> >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill >> <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >>> information would you expect to find from his baptism? >> >> Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely >> church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. >> >> In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where >> my >> families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. >> >> If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is >> the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on >> the following web page: >> >> http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm >> >> -- >> Josephine Jeremiah >> www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:55:03 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: Re: [B&S] Christmas tradition > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxat1zu42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:53:49 -0000, Joni Saunders <josaun@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >> Every year at this time I can't help but wonder how my ancestors in >> England celebrated Christmas and what traditions would have been handed >> down to me if they had not immigrated once to Canada and again to the >> US... My father's >> g-grandmother family came from the Shepton Mallet and Gurney Slade areas >> of Somerset. > > Hi Jo, > > The custom of Wassailing in Somerset springs to mind. > > The following web site is about Wassailing, which takes place between > Christmas Eve and Twelfth Night. > > http://www.england-in-particular.info/orchards/o-wass.html > > More information on Wassailing is here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassailing > > Wassailing events in Somerset for last year, January 2009, are listed > here: > > http://www.england-in-particular.info/new/n-wass.html > > Scroll down for the Somerset information. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:29:24 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas > on Bristol map of 1910 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxe7av942w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church >> but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors >> were >> baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. > > Hi David, > > Thanks for your response. You might like to see the position of James > Street near Grosvenor Road on a 1910 map of Bristol, which is on the > following web page: > > http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm > > James Street is near the top of 1G on the map, near the junction of Ashley > Road and City Road. > > The church of St. Barnabas was situated in the triangle, shown on the map, > between Ashley Road and City Road in IG. > > If your great-grandfather's birth certificate is from the Sub-district > Ashley then this James Street could be the one, where he was born. > > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clifton.html > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:53:04 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, > 1916 ( was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxluqqh42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:12:23 -0000, John Farnhill > <john.farnhill@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> I believe that Sir John Swaish, (1852-1931), mayor of Bristol in 1913, >> married Sarah Rowland Evans in Q1 1872. The only death I can find for >> Sarah is Q1 1915. > >> My query is: Did John marry for a second time ? > > I can't answer John's query, but I have a little snippet of information > about the Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops concerning the Lord > Mayor, Alderman Swaish, which may be of interest to list members. In 1916, > the Lord Mayor wanted to send something to the men serving in not only > the 4th Gloucesters of which he was Honorary Colonel, but also to men in > other local units and those linked with Bristol. > > After a public fund was raised, dark blue enamel tobacco tins with their > lids decorated with the city arms were obtained and these were each filled > with a pipe, tobacco and cigarette papers. The tobacco tins were much > valued by the men who received them and many men sent them home for safe > keeping. > > Perhaps a list member has one of these tobacco tins among family > memorabilia. > > There was similar fund raising at Christmas, 1917, and Christmas, 1918, > and the money collected went to the Canteen Fund of the units to help with > the Christmas festivities for the troops. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:16:45 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 > (was A Family Conundrum !) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxmx71y42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:41:41 -0000, Bob Sanders > <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> My ancestor George Webley born at Berkley, Somerset in 1787 had a brother >> Ambrose Webley born Berkley 1784. They were children of George Webley & >> Rebecca Biggs. So far so good. > >> Ambrose was gardener at Oldbury Court for 55 years and was involved in >> the founding of Dr Bell's School at Stapleton. > >> I recently discovered on Ancestry that he left a will and probate was >> granted to Ann Elizabeth Shipton, widow, daughter of William Webley of >> Frenchay, gardener, and James Webley of Henbury, gardener, who were joint >> executors. William Webley of Frenchay appears to have been the son of >> Isaac Webley of Winterbourne. However, I can find no link between the >> Berkley >> Webleys and the Winterbourne Webleys. > >> If anyone has any bright ideas or knows anything of either family I >> would be interested to hear. > > Hi Bob, > > There were two marriages at Winterbourne for grooms called Isaac Webley, > which may be of interest if you don't already have them. > > Isaac Webley and Betty Somerell were married, by banns, on 1st. March 1756 > at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. > > Isaac Webley and Sarah May were married, by banns, on 1st. October 1782 at > Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. > > These marriages are included in the CD of Bristol Diocese Marriage > Registers Vol 9, Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812, produced > by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email > to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 > **************************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >