Hello Josephine Although I also can't find Benjamin Joseph in the Gordon Beavington 1851 census for Bristol, I note from familysearch.org that Benjamin Joseph married Caroline Woodbridge at the church of St Thomas, Bristol on 16.12.1848. His father was quoted as John Joseph and her father was quoted as Thomas Woodbridge. I also note that the Woodbridges lived a couple of doors away from Benjamin Joseph in the 1881 census at Bedminster Down. I'm not sure whether you already knew this about the families. If you don't find them in 1851 in Wales either, have you considered County Durham? I have coal mining ancestors from the Bitton area who went north to Durham. I also have ancestors who emigrated to Australia in the gold rush in the 1850s and who returned to Bitton by the 1881 census. Just a thought. Bernice

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:01:43 +0100, <Bernpeg@aol.com> wrote: > Although I also can't find Benjamin Joseph in the Gordon Beavington 1851 > census for Bristol, I note from familysearch.org that Benjamin Joseph > married Caroline Woodbridge at the church of St Thomas, Bristol on > 16.12.1848. Hi Bernice, Thanks very much for that confirmation. I saw a reference on WorldConnect to the marriage at St. Thomas's Church, Bristol, but I haven't looked at familysearch.org for information. > His father was quoted as John Joseph and her father was quoted as Thomas > Woodbridge. Thanks for that, too. I've now found a possible marriages for both the fathers. > I also note that the Woodbridges lived a couple of doors away from > Benjamin Joseph in the 1881 census at Bedminster Down. I'm not sure > whether you > already knew this about the families. No, I didn't know it so thanks for that, as well. I'd only taken a brief look in the 1881 census, using my 1881 Southwestern census CD, because I have to do complicated things to get at it on this computer, which in some ways is as wayward as my old Acorn. > If you don't find them in 1851 in Wales either, have you considered > County Durham? No, I hadn't got as far as thinking that. Wales sprang into my mind first. I did look in the 1851 Glamorgan census, which I have on CD, and saw a lot of people with the surname JOSEPH there, but no Benjamin JOSEPH. > I have coal mining ancestors from the Bitton area who went north to > Durham. I think that some of the Somerset VEATERs went there, too. > I also have ancestors who emigrated to Australia in the gold rush in > the 1850s and who returned to Bitton by the 1881 census. > Just a thought. And I good one, too! That's reminded me that Ian's great-grandfather went to Cuyahoga, Ohio after the 1871 census and was back in Wales by the 1881 census. I've just found the 1873 baptism of Ian's great-uncle in Cuyahoga, this week. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:01:43 +0100, <Bernpeg@aol.com> wrote: > Although I also can't find Benjamin Joseph in the Gordon Beavington 1851 > census for Bristol, I note from familysearch.org that Benjamin Joseph > married Caroline Woodbridge at the church of St Thomas, Bristol on > 16.12.1848. > His father was quoted as John Joseph and her father was quoted as Thomas > Woodbridge. > I also note that the Woodbridges lived a couple of doors away from > Benjamin Joseph in the 1881 census at Bedminster Down. I'm not sure > whether you > already knew this about the families. Hi Bernice, I didn't know this until I looked more closely last night so thanks for pointing me in the direction of neighbours. Now I can see that this WOODBRIDGE family was related to Caroline, the wife of Benjamin JOSEPH. Henry WOODBRIDGE, son of Thomas and Sarah, was baptized on 10th. September 1826 at Bedminster. Abode was Bedminster Down and father's occupation was labourer. Caroline WOODBRIDGE was baptized on 24th. October 1830 at the same church. Abode was West Street and father's occupation was labourer. This would have been West Street in Bedminster and not the West Street near Old Market, which I was thinking of originally before I looked at the baptism. (My correspondent had already mentioned West Street as an address for Caroline.) Looking at the B & A FHS Baptism Index 1754-1813 and 1813-1837 (www.bafhs.org.uk), I see that Thomas and Sarah WOODBRIDGE had a number of other children baptized at St. John's Church, Bedminster -- Sarah, 1811, William, 1813, John, 1815,Thomas, 1817, Thomas, 1821, Uriah, 1823, Harriett, 1824 and Edward, 1828. Father's occupation was coal miner in 1813 and 1815 and hallier in 1821. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com