Chris, I'm 100% with you on the meaning of sojoiner - someone who was not born in the parish and probably only a temporary resident. However, have you looked at the original 1851 census entry for Elizabeth LOVELL? I know you said she was born in Somerset but it actually says (if I've got the right Elizabeth LOVELL in Mangotsfield) that her place of birth was Somerset, Kilmiston[sic] There are no baptisms in Kilmersdon for children of a Samuel & Elizabeth LOVELL Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Somerset Marriage Help > Pat > Thanks very much for the info. It is obviously very tempting to say that > this is the marriage but with no specific info about her birth location in > a > census it will have to be the "Probable" marriage. I was assuming > "sojoiner" > was meant to be "sojourner", a temporary resident rather than something to > do with woodworking. At all the post 1812 baptisms he was a Mason but that > was not necessarily his occupation 11 years previously when he married. > > The baptism of the first child five years after the marriage is perhaps > rather longer than usual. However as there were two children baptised > together it is possible one could have been born a couple of years > earlier, > but on the other hand in this register older children at multiple baptisms > usually had their age listed. > > Thanks again for your help Pat > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Hase > Sent: 25 November 2010 00:06 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] Somerset Marriage Help > > Chris, > > There is a marriage in Kilmersdon in which you might be interested. > > 6th July 1801 > > Samuel LOVEL - sojoiner to Elizabeth PLUMMER otp. > > The Somerset Coalfields might be the connection > > Pat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [B&S] Somerset Marriage Help > > >> (Resend as previous reply earlier rejected by Rootsweb) >> >> Thanks very much for looking. As I only have her birth place as >> "Somerset" > >> I >> hoped she may have married in north Somerset but she could have been born >> anywhere in the county. On the other hand just because she was born in >> Somerset it does not mean that her family were still living there. >> >> Thanks again >> >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Johnnie >> Sent: 24 November 2010 14:02 >> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [B&S] Somerset Marriage Help >> >> B&AFHS North Somerset Marriages CD ...... please check for a marriage >> between "Samuel >> Lovell and Elizabeth ?" around 1800-1806. >> ----------------------------------------- >> Hi Chris, Checked the North Somerset Marriage Index and there are no >> Samuel >> or Elizabeth getting wed during those dates the nearest ones where a >> Samuel >> LOVEL(L) married are Long Ashton in 1795 to a Anne WALKER and Wrington in >> 1810, Ruth RODFORD. >> >> Regards >> >> John Salmon >> Bath >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >