Josephine Thank you for your very pleasant and constructive words about my fledgling blog - I didn't realise that you had already paid a visit! You have possibly read William Henry Somerton's writings about the Bristol Riots? He was ahead of his time when it came to reporting. Thank you also for encouraging other listers to visit; one day there may be something of interest as I hope to expand to more general subjects apart from my direct family. Kind Regards, Karen > From: bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 104 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:55:32 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PURNELL David, Sutton, SOM > Garndiffaith, MON (was PURNELL, > Clutton, SOM > Trevethin, MON ) (Josephine Jeremiah) > 2. General social history (was Royal Hotel, College Green, > Bristol, prices in 1902 and 1937 ) (Josephine Jeremiah) > 3. General social history (was Royal Hotel, College Green, > Bristol, prices in 1902 and 1937 ) (liverpud) > 4. The Ridouts of Bath blog (was GOVER Maurice, baptized > Clutton, 1866)? (Josephine Jeremiah) > 5. Bristol novels (was General social history ) (Josephine Jeremiah) > 6. Re: Safe after Christchurch earthquake (A. Day) > 7. Re: Royal Hotel, College Green, Bristol, prices in 1902 and > 1937 (was Bristol Royal Marriott hotel) (Tony Harrison) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:44:38 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] PURNELL David, Sutton, SOM > Garndiffaith, MON (was > PURNELL, Clutton, SOM > Trevethin, MON ) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vrc1woyv42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:54:44 -0000, Ian Sage <sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > > > Many thanks for the other information you provided on Charles and > > Harriet's children and grandchildren. Thomas and Sylvia moved to > > Cwmtillery some time between 1861 and 1871, but they moved several times > > before that as shown by the birth places of their children - Clutton, > > Twerton, Clutton again, then Chew Magna. > > > I've made a resolution to follow up on my Purnells this year, so it > > looks as though I'll be busy. > > Hi Ian, > > In the last couple of days, I've been able to start filling in some of the > blanks in my PURNELL notes, too. > > I'm just looking at David PURNELL, son of Thomas and Sylvia, who was born > in Bishop Sutton c. 1860, but I have no notes for him. > > At the time of the 1871 census Thomas and Sylvia and their family were in > Cwmtillery, Monmouthshire. > > Thomas PURNELL, head, 51, Coal Miner, born Somerset Clutton. > Sylvia, wife, 50, born Somerset Clutton. > Thomas, son, 16, Coal Miner, born Somerset Bishop Sutton. > George, son, 12, born Somerset Bishop Sutton. > Henryetta, daughter, 14, born Somerset Bishop Sutton. > David, son, Scholar, 10, born Somerset Bishop Sutton. > > However, I have recently seen what could have been the David above in > notes for one of > Luke PURNELL's daughters: > > Augusta PURNELL, daughter of Luke and Jemima PURNELL, was born c.1866 in > Trevethin, Monmouthshire. She was the niece of Ian's 2x great-grandmother, > Mary PARFITT (nee PURNELL). > > Augusta may have married David PURNELL, son of Thomas and Sylvia PURNELL, > who was her > father's first cousin. > > On FreeBMD, there's a marriage for David PURNELL and Augusta PURNELL in > the December quarter in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire. > > In 1891, David, Augusta and their young family were living at 3 Butlers > Lane, Garndiffaith, Monmouthshire. > > David was a 29-year-old coal miner, while Augusta was 25. The birthplace > of David was recorded as Sutton, Gloucestershire, but this could have been > Bishop Sutton, Somerset. Augusta's birthplace was Abersychan, > Monmouthshire. Children in the household were Stanley James, 4, whose > birthplace was recorded as British, Monmouthshire and 1-year-old Florence > Mary whose birthplace was Garndiffaith, Monmouthshire. The language of the > household was English. > > I'm assuming that the birthplace of British means the British Works, > Abersychan although I believe that the works had closed by the time that > Stanley James PURNELL was born. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:07:08 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] General social history (was Royal Hotel, College Green, > Bristol, prices in 1902 and 1937 ) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vrc2x6ny42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:14:48 -0000, Tony Harrison <a.harrison@tesco.net> > wrote: > > > You are an endless source of information. You must spend most of your day > > researching it. Although I have found most of my Bristol Family (except > > baptisms for the Taylor's and their deaths) I remain a member as I learn > > so much about general social history from your posts. Keep up the good > > work. > > Hi Tony, > > Thanks for your kind words. I like to find answers to the questions in my > mind so can't resist a little looking up here and there:-) > > In the case of the hotel prices for the Royal Hotel, I just had to reach > to the bookshelf behind me for books with Bristol hotel information, which > were published in 1902 and 1937. > > However, I have other bookshelves with lots of novels and this year I > promised myself that I would keep off the computer and read through them. > > I haven't yet read the novel Miss Ann Green of Clifton: A Romance of the > Bristol Riots by E.W. Baker, which must go to near the top of the list > for books to be read. (It has an 1828 map and black-and-white photographic > illustrations and I've often looked at those.) > > At the beginning of January, our Edna thought it would be interesting to > see how much I could refrain from using the computer. I gave in on the > third day of January:-) > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:29:15 -0500 > From: "liverpud" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> > Subject: [B&S] General social history (was Royal Hotel, College > Green, Bristol, prices in 1902 and 1937 ) > To: "JoJeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Cc: Bristol-Somerset List <Bristol_and_Somerset@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4BB51C7BCB594D0D851427AD093E4C80@EDNA> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, Josephine, you are good at many things but a failure when it comes to > refraining from researching and working on the computer... > > ....Will be interested in your comments after you read the novel Miss Ann > Green of Clifton: A Romance of the > Bristol Riots by E.W. Baker, which must go to near the top of the list > for books to be read. (It has an 1828 map and black-and-white photographic > illustrations).... > > Now show us how long you can go before reaching for that book again... > > (;-)) > > Edna - Ottawa > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:07 AM > Subject: [B&S] General social history (was Royal Hotel, College Green, > Bristol, prices in 1902 and 1937 ) > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:14:48 -0000, Tony Harrison <a.harrison@tesco.net> > wrote: > > > You are an endless source of information. You must spend most of your day > > researching it. Although I have found most of my Bristol Family (except > > baptisms for the Taylor's and their deaths) I remain a member as I learn > > so much about general social history from your posts. Keep up the good > > work. > > Hi Tony, > > Thanks for your kind words. I like to find answers to the questions in my > mind so can't resist a little looking up here and there:-) > > In the case of the hotel prices for the Royal Hotel, I just had to reach > to the bookshelf behind me for books with Bristol hotel information, which > were published in 1902 and 1937. > > However, I have other bookshelves with lots of novels and this year I > promised myself that I would keep off the computer and read through them. > > I haven't yet read the novel Miss Ann Green of Clifton: A Romance of the > Bristol Riots by E.W. Baker, which must go to near the top of the list > for books to be read. (It has an 1828 map and black-and-white photographic > illustrations and I've often looked at those.) > > At the beginning of January, our Edna thought it would be interesting to > see how much I could refrain from using the computer. I gave in on the > third day of January:-) > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:42:32 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] The Ridouts of Bath blog (was GOVER Maurice, baptized > Clutton, 1866)? > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vrc4k6a942w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:37:41 -0000, Karen Francis > <ranaridibunda@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Josephine > > Thank you for your kinds words and for finding Maurice's baptism. He > > was a lucky chap because the lady that he married had come into quite a > > bit of property through her late husband, Henry. > > Hi Karen, > > Thanks for the information about Maurice GOVER. I expect that he was > related to Ian's GOVER family in Clutton, but I haven't traced all the > branches of that family. > > > By the way, Josephine, I would be most grateful if you would be kind > > enough to pay a brief visit to my family history blog (link below). I > > should much value your honest opinion on my writing, being a published > > author yourself. > > I had a look at your blog when you first told us about it in January and I > have been back several times since. > > I remember thinking how much I liked the style of your writing and how I > ought to put my family history notes into an interesting narrative like > yours. At the moment, the notes on individuals in my tree mainly comprise, > baptism, marriage, death and burial information plus census information > and directory information. > > I have already made two slim booklets for family members on my recent > maternal and paternal families, but I think I could do better now on the > paternal side as that booklet was mainly about BMD and census information > etc. > > I'll be revisiting your blog again, Karen, and if there are any list > members who haven't paid a visit it's well worth having a look as we can > pick up tips from other people's writing. > > Of course your blog makes me feel I want to make a visit to Bath again. > I've had lots of memorable times there when I was a child, a teenager and > an adult, but the best times were probably at the Bath Book Fairs. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:06:59 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] Bristol novels (was General social history ) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vrc5pxff42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:29:15 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> > wrote: > > > Yes, Josephine, you are good at many things but a failure when it comes > > to refraining from researching and working on the computer... > > Edna, you made me smile when I read your words. I admit I am a failure at > refraining from looking at things on the computer, but next month I am > going to try really hard to limit myself to maybe short periods once or > twice a day:-) > > I am going to try to get some of those novels read. Last autumn I bought > Jeannie Johnson's Forgotten Faces, another historical novel about Bristol, > and I haven't read that yet, either. (I'll probably have to read the first > two in the series again to refresh my memory of what has gone before.) > > > ....Will be interested in your comments after you read the novel Miss Ann > > Green of Clifton: A Romance of the Bristol Riots by E.W. Baker > > I haven't put the book back yet so I'm going to make a start by looking at > the 1828 map and 44 illustrations of Clifton and Bristol collected by > Reece Winstone, who was the editor of this second edition of 1974. > > I love looking at pictures of old Bristol. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:47:41 +0000 > From: "A. Day" <ann.day@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [B&S] Safe after Christchurch earthquake > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D653A2D.3050104@blueyonder.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I contacted Adele who I have corresponded with in the past & got this > > Yes thanks, am in lower north island.. but the mess down south. luckily my > sister wasn't down in Ch.ch. she was in Nelson the other day. which is > higher up south island.. Adele > > > > > > On 23/02/2011 10:17, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > > Last night, I was glad to hear that my long-time correspondent and her > > family are safe in New Zealand. This morning I have had another message > > from former B& S list member, Dianne in Christchurch, which she has asked > > me to convey to the list: > > > >> Hi Josephine, > >> have just popped into the Bristol and Somerset archives rootsweb site - > >> please thank everyone from me and Christchurch for their thoughts and > >> especially to you. It has been a trying time and now our thoughts are > >> with those who now are trying to cope with bereavements and some still > >> trying to find loved family members. We are a small city compared to > >> some but this to all of us here is a personal tragedy. We have lost some > >> very important heritage buildings, some that will never be replaced and > >> a lot of these dating back to when our ancestors arrived in New Zealand. > >> Please convey my email to all of my friends on the Bristol and Rootsweb > >> site and to you Josephine, who all helped me tremendously in the past > >> regarding my Hobbs / Rippingille family in Gloucestershire and Somerset. > >> Whilst I am not subscribed to the Bristol and Somerset site at present I > >> still hover in the background and I still enjoy reading the various > >> threads regarding other members family research on this site. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:55:26 -0000 > From: "Tony Harrison" <a.harrison@tesco.net> > Subject: Re: [B&S] Royal Hotel, College Green, Bristol, prices in 1902 > and 1937 (was Bristol Royal Marriott hotel) > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <667B9DCBD05E4EC791828870D7EADAB4@Tony> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > I am resending this as it has not appeared on the list but is in the > archives > > Hi Josephine > You are an endless source of information. You must spend most of your day > researching it. Although I have found most of my Bristol Family (except > baptisms for the Taylor's and their deaths) I remain a member as I learn so > much about general social history from your posts. Keep up the good work. > Warm regards > Tony > ----- Original Message ----- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:47 PM > Subject: [B&S] Royal Hotel, College Green, Bristol, prices in 1902 and 1937 > (was Bristol Royal Marriott hotel) > > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:52:03 -0000, <Lcsearch3528@aol.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the information about the hotel, very interesting. I would > >> love to have stayed there in those days - not that we would have been > >> able to afford it of course.....I would probably have been a scullery > >> maid! > > > > I've been looking at the cost of staying at the Royal Hotel, College Green > > in times past, which may be of interest to some of our list members. > > > > In 1902, B. & A. was from 4s. 6d. (I'm assuming B. & A. meant board and > > accommodation, but perhaps someone has a better explanation.) Breakfast > > was 3 shillings, while dinner (table d'hote) was 4s. 6d. > > > > In 1937, the minimum for bed and breakfast was 10s. 6d. at the Royal > > Hotel, which had 180 bedrooms. > > > > At this time, the Grand Spa Hotel, Clifton charged the same minimum of > > 10s. 6d. for bed and breakfast and this hotel had 70 bedrooms. > > > > Minimum bed and breakfast prices in other licensed hotels in Bristol in > > 1937 ranged from 5s. 6d. to 9s. 6d and minimum bed and breakfast prices > > in unlicensed hotels ranged from 5 shillings to 8s. 6d. > > > > -- > > Josephine Jeremiah > > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 104 > ****************************************************