On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, > thought this site might be interesting: > > Industrialisation of south Wales. > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. > Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I was thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in Monmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with Monmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & S list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I was also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in the coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned out that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great grandfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a coal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for Bargoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol family once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list members and their families:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thanks Josephine for thinking of our families with Welsh connections. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales (Industrialisation of South Wales) On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, > thought this site might be interesting: > > Industrialisation of south Wales. > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. > Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I was thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in Monmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with Monmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & S list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I was also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in the coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned out that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great grandfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a coal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for Bargoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol family once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list members and their families:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

My ancestors came from Bristol to Trevethin also in the 1850's not sure when exactly. But by great grandfather was born in Pontypool and we still live here !! Sandra Gage -----Original Message----- From: liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com; JoJeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Sent: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:31 Subject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales (Industrialisation of South Wales) Thanks Josephine for thinking of our families with Welsh connections. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> o: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:40 PM ubject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales Industrialisation of South Wales) n Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> rote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, thought this site might be interesting: Industrialisation of south Wales. http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I as thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in onmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with onmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to ind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ncestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I as also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in he coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned ut that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great randfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a oal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for argoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol amily once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list embers and their families:-) Josephine -- osephine Jeremiah ww.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:40:16 -0000 "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: Hello Josephine, > mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have > ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. You're not wrong; Many of my wife's forebears lived and worked in the area. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days Bombsite Boy - The Adverts

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:39:17 -0000, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote: > You're not wrong; Many of my wife's forebears lived and worked in the > area. Hi Brad, I know that you have the death of your wife's Somerset ancestor, Joseph BALMOND, which was on 21st. January 1870 at Trevethin, but I wonder if you have the date and place of his burial. If not, here it is: Joseph BALMOND, aged 82, of Varteg was buried on 3rd. February 1870 at St. Thomas, Talywain (Abersychan), Monmouthshire. Information from: TALYWAIN & ABERSYCHAN St Thomas Register of Burials 1835-1895 Transcribed by Ben Fieldhouse Booklet by Bob & Jackie Dunn Pontypool Branch of Gwent Family History Society Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:27:01 -0000 "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: Hello Josephine, > I know that you have the death of your wife's Somerset ancestor, Joseph > BALMOND, which was on 21st. January 1870 at Trevethin, but I wonder if > you have the date and place of his burial. Crikey; Your filing must a lot better than mine, if you know he's one of my wife's relatives. > If not, here it is: > Joseph BALMOND, aged 82, of Varteg was buried on 3rd. February 1870 at > St. Thomas, Talywain (Abersychan), Monmouthshire. Thanks for that Josephine. I didn't have it. I've now been to Mike John's Monmouthshire transcription site, and found a couple of other BALMONDs buried in Abersychan. Most were buried at Trevethin. Stupidly, I didn't think to check the Abersychan page before. It's even given me a handle on one of the BALMOND girls that has been tricky to prove she existed, except in one census return. The burial for Annie in 1874 has enabled me to locate a likely death registration for her. Certificate to be ordered in due course. Once again, thanks! -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You destroyed my confidence, you broke my nerve Nervous Wreck - Radio Stars

Yes Josephine, there definately is a lot of instances of Bristol and Somerset families living and working in Sth Wales. My Wifes Grandfather, Albert Griffiths Dyer, a Bath man, went to Coelbren and married a Bath girl, Isabel White, there. Most of their children were born there. They returned to Bath to open the fish and chips shop that used to be in Weston High Street. We were fortunate enough to visit Coelbren, Caerbont and Ystradiglas last year. My Brother in laws family of Purnell also moved to Trevethin. Places I would probably have known nothing about if not for Genealogy. Regards Tony Evans On 19/02/2011 7:40 a.m., Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > > I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I > was thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in > Monmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. > > Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with > Monmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to > mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have > ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. > > As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B& > S list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. > > Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I > was also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in > the coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned > out that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great > grandfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a > coal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. > > While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for > Bargoed and I thought of B& S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol > family once lived there. > > So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list > members and their families:-) > > Josephine > -- Ehara taku toa i te toa takitahi Engari takimano, no aku tupuna; Te mana, te wehi, te tapu me te ihi, I heke mai ki ahau, no aku tupuna. My greatness comes not from me alone It derives from a multitude, from my ancestors; The authority, the awe, and the artistry I inherited these gifts, from my ancestors. Te Maori

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:57:00 -0000, Tony Evans <anthonyevans@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Yes Josephine, there definately is a lot of instances of Bristol and > Somerset families living and working in Sth Wales. > My Brother in laws family of Purnell also moved to Trevethin. > Places I would probably have known nothing about if not for Genealogy. Hi Tony, Yes, I would not have known about the parish of Trevithin, which included Abersychan, Pontnewydd and Pontypool, if I hadn't become interested in researching my husband's and my family history. When we were younger, we often passed by Pontypool, on our way to the Monmouthshire & Brecon Canal, little realizing that members of our Somerset and South Gloucestershire families once lived in the area. Ian's PURNELL family moved to Trevethin from Clutton in Somerset. At the time of the 1881 census, coal miner, George PURNELL, 64, and his wife, Harriet, 67, were living at 42 High Street in the parish of Trevethin, Monmouthshire. Both were recorded as being born in Clutton. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

A couple of distant relatives lived in S Wales towards the end of the 19th century. However I first noticed the connection with S Wales when collecting all census entries for several of my surnames. It was very noticeable the number of south Gloucestershire families with children listed as born south Wales. Neither of my distant relatives were in coal related jobs but both returned to Bristol area around 1900. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 18 February 2011 18:40 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales (Industrialisation of South Wales) On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, > thought this site might be interesting: > > Industrialisation of south Wales. > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. > Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I was thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in Monmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with Monmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & S list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I was also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in the coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned out that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great grandfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a coal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for Bargoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol family once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list members and their families:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:38:52 -0000, Chris Jefferies <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > A couple of distant relatives lived in S Wales towards the end of the > 19th century. However I first noticed the connection with S Wales when > collecting all census entries for several of my surnames. It was very > noticeable the > number of south Gloucestershire families with children listed as born > south Wales. Neither of my distant relatives were in coal related jobs > but both > returned to Bristol area around 1900. Here are some members of my South Gloucestershire family, who had a link with South Wales. George HAYMAN, my 2x great-grandmother's brother, was in Monmouthshire with his family at the time of the 1871 census. (George's brother-in-law, John HANCOCK, my 2x great-grandfather, had been killed in a coal pit at Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869.) In 1871, George and Louisa were living in Park Street, Blaina, Monmouthshire and were recorded in the 1871 census under the name HAYMON. George was recorded as 29 and his occupation was 'Pudler', while Louisa was 33. Their children were George, 7 and Julia, 2. All in the family were recorded as being born in 'Gloucester Bishorn' meaning Gloucestershire, Bitton. By the time of the 1881 census, 39-year-old George HAYMON (sic) and his family were living in Oldland Common, Gloucestershire. George was recorded as a labourer in lead while his wife, Louisa, aged 44, was recorded as a housewife. George, aged 17, the eldest son in the household was a coal labourer while daughter, Julia, was a general servant. Younger children in the household were sons, Thomas, 7, Mark, 6 and daughter, Mary, 4. George and Louisa's two younger sons, Thomas and Mark, were born in Blaina, Monmouthshire. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com