Roy, Thanks for your reply. Apologies I spelt the name wrong. It should be SHEAFF. I will write it out 100 times. In any case, the information I provided holds true, just without the 'c' in the name. I am not entirely coming to the investigation cold, but must admit that some information does need to be precisely verified. The SHEAFF name came from my contact but he tells me he got the information from Ancestry. On the birth, marriage and death, the name 'SHEAFF' is only denoted by the initial 'S'. Josephine has said that the mother's name is Maria, which aligns with what I found on the Ancestry website. The mother was listed as Maria (Bunting) SHEAFF. That's when I thought that Maria SHEAFF married an Alfred BUNTING and I found one such marriage in in 1882 in Fulham. I haven't been able to find the death of Alfred BUNTING but curiously found a marriage of Maria BUNTING to William James GEORGE in Nottingham. I took note of that because Sarah Elizabeth BUSBY was born in Nottingham although she married William James HINTON in Sussex. There are many deaths for Maria HINTON and I haven't inspected each thoroughly to know if she died by the time William James HINTON married Sarah Elizabeth BUSBY in 1890 in Ticehurst District (Sussex). Whether there was an intentional mistake on the name 'GEORGE', I do not know. On the 1891 Census, William James HINTON is listed along with Sarah E HINTON, Arthur J S HINTON, and W F HINTON (actually the name is misspelt as HENTON) living in Walmer, Kent. There is nothing that I am not telling you! I am trying to get to the bottom of this myself. One thing is for sure we are going to order the birth certificates for Arthur James Sheaff HINTON and William Frank HINTON to establish who the mothers are. Thanks so much for your reply. I appreciate your help. Susan in snowy Guelph, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Roy Stockdill Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:06 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Arthur James Scheaff HINTON b. 17 Jun 1887 in Bedminster,Somerset, England On 7 Feb 2011 at 13:11, Susan Moziar wrote: > Can anyone tell me if there is any information that I can find about > the birth of Arthur James Scheaff HINTON who was born 17 June 1877 in > Bedminster, Somerset at Hope Cottage, Bath Road, Bedminster? > Specifically I am trying to find out who the mother is? I know I will > probably have to order the certificate but some of the local sites > have transcriptions. > > I am working on a bit of a mystery here. William James HINTON was b. > 1842 in Wilton, Wiltshire and his parents were James HINTON and > Elizabeth LEE. William James HINTON married Anne GRANT and had three > children. He was a carpenter who moved to Kent and can be found on > the 1881 Census with his family. After that I think he must have come > off the rails. I believe he is the same one who was found dead in the > woods in Wilton after 1901. > > Recently, I discovered that somebody on Ancestry had 'claimed' William > James HINTON as one of their ancestors and I said it couldn't be until > I looked more closely and found out that in 1891 he was living in Kent > with a new wife, Sarah Elizabeth BUSBY and two children. Meanwhile on > the 1891 Census, his previous wife is living in London with their son > and does not indicate that she is widowed. So William James HINTON is > either a bigamist or he divorced. We have opened a can of worms here! > > Then, I discovered that somebody on Ancestry has Arthur James Scheaff > HINTON in their tree with parents William James HINTON and Maria > (Bunting) SCHEAFF. I can't find a marriage of William James HINTON to > Maria SCHEAFF although I can find a marriage of Maria SCHEAFF to > Alfred BUNTING. The fact that 'SCHEAFF' crops up in the middle name > makes me suspicious. > A weird one indeed! There is only one Arthur James S HINTON at FreeBMD, whose birth was registered at Bedminster in the Sep quarter of 1877. How do you know that his other middle name was Scheaff or Sheaff and how do you know so precisely when and where he was born if you do not have the birth certificate? When posting queries, it is important to give as much detail as possible. A Google search produces an Arthur James Sheaff [sic - no "c" in the name] Hinton MBE who appears in the supplement to the London Gazette of 8 August 1941, stating that he was to be a lieutenant from 11 March 1941 without army pay and allowances. The name appears in the General List and he is not shown as having any previous military rank, nor does any regiment appear. But IF this was the same man - and it's hard to imagine there was more than one Arthur James Sheaff Hinton - he would have been about 63 or 64, which seems extraordinarily old to have been suddenly made a lieutenant in wartime! And when and where and why did he get an MBE? Ancestry's death indexes have TWO entries for the death of Arthur James Sheaff Hinton - one in the surname of Sheaff Hinton and another just as Hinton - in the registration district of Gipping, Suffolk, in the June quarter of 1974 and his DoB is given in both as 17 June 1877, so this was obviously your man and he would then have been around 97. Clearly, a man of mystery! Was he in the Secret Service or something and is there something you're not telling us? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message