On 05 Feb 2011 Peter wrote: My known interest in Combe St Nicholas is the family of William Farrant (c.1800-1875) a shoemaker from Axminster, and Hannah (probably MARKS) (c.1810-1888) his wife, who I know from census data lived in Combe briefly in the 1840s. Perhaps you have come across them? Some of their children may appear in the Combe registers - possibly Thomas bap 1837 Churchstanton but disappears after 1841, Samuel b.c.1840 Combe, Henry John b.c.1843 Combe, Mary b 1844Q2 Combe (GRO Chard 10/378). The next child I have for them is Susan b 1849Q4 by which time they were in Chardstock. Hi Peter, As you no doubt have observed, your Farrant family appear in the Combe St Nicholas census returns of 1841 but not of 1851. The 1841 census gives the address as Wadford; William, 25, a shoemaker born out of county; Hannah, 25, also born out of county; and 4 children, all born in county, Sarah, 7; Elizabeth, 6; Thomas, 4; and Samuel, 2. Looking for the name FARRANT in the Combe parish registers I see 3 baptisms: Mary Farrant on 13 may 1844 John Farrant on 01 Oct 1846 Thomas Farrant on 01 Oct 1846 - all children of William & Hannah. There were 2 children buried at Combe, both on 24 Nov 1842: Elizabeth, aged 8; and Thomas, aged 6. Unusually, this is a family who lived in Combe St Nicholas - for at least 5 years it seems - but who don't appear to have made any marriage links with Combe folks. Both William & Hannah came from 'out of county'; and they left the parish before any of their children were of age to marry. I have found no marriage of that name in the parish registers. Looking at the 1841 returns William's immediate (apparent) neighbours, that is the two families before and the two after, there were 3 blacksmiths and a miller/baker, which suggests to me they were very close to the village centre. As for their move to Chardstock: I don't see the family there in the 1851 census returns, though I see them there in 1871! It seems probable Samuel, bc.1840, wed Susan DENING at Chardstock on 29 Jan 1861; that Samuel witnessed the marriage of Susan's sister, Mary, at Chardstock on 20 Dec 1866; and Susan, b.1849, married James SHINER, again at Chardstock, on 6 Jul 1871. All these data, and others, are to be found:- here: http://www.chardstockwebmuseum.org/census.html I have in the past found many links between the folks of Chardstock and Combe St Nicholas but in my rather hurried look in the Chardstock registers I've not found any marriage to link your FARRANTS into my @family@ of Combe St Nicholas folks. (Indeed, by 1901, Samual Farrant bc.1840 had living with him, *four* bachelor sons). HTH, Jenny

Jenny, Thanks for the reply - comments below: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Davis" <jenny.davis@zen.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Combe St Nicholas (FARRANT) > On 05 Feb 2011 Peter wrote: > My known interest in Combe St Nicholas is the family of William Farrant > (c.1800-1875) a shoemaker from Axminster, and Hannah (probably MARKS) > (c.1810-1888) his wife, who I know from census data lived in Combe briefly > in the 1840s. Perhaps you have come across them? Some of their children > may > appear in the Combe registers - possibly Thomas bap 1837 Churchstanton but > disappears after 1841, Samuel b.c.1840 Combe, Henry John b.c.1843 Combe, > Mary b 1844Q2 Combe (GRO Chard 10/378). The next child I have for them is > Susan b 1849Q4 by which time they were in Chardstock. > > > Hi Peter, > > As you no doubt have observed, your Farrant family appear in the Combe St > Nicholas census returns of 1841 but not of 1851. > > The 1841 census gives the address as Wadford; William, 25, a shoemaker > born > out of county; Hannah, 25, also born out of county; and 4 children, all > born > in county, Sarah, 7; Elizabeth, 6; Thomas, 4; and Samuel, 2. > > Looking for the name FARRANT in the Combe parish registers I see 3 > baptisms: > > Mary Farrant on 13 may 1844 > John Farrant on 01 Oct 1846 > Thomas Farrant on 01 Oct 1846 - all children of William & Hannah. > > There were 2 children buried at Combe, both on 24 Nov 1842: Elizabeth, > aged > 8; and Thomas, aged 6. Thanks for these - I have not had access to the Combe records so these records fill in my gaps. > Unusually, this is a family who lived in Combe St Nicholas - for at least > 5 > years it seems - but who don't appear to have made any marriage links with > Combe folks. Both William & Hannah came from 'out of county'; and they > left > the parish before any of their children were of age to marry. I have found > no marriage of that name in the parish registers. I think the marriage was probably 12th February 1832 at Otterford between William Farrant and Hannah Marks, but I have not had the opportunity as yet to look at the original record and see how well it fits. Part of the problem is a lack of consistancy with census data. Hannah is given as being born in Dunkeswell (1851 census) or West Leigh (1861 census) or Broadway (1881 census). I think William was from Axminster, probably the son of Thomas Farrant and Rachel Stedman, chr Axminster 25th Oct 1801, though again the data is inconsistant. The Chardstock Web Museum site gives him as being 82 years old by the time of his burial in December 1875. > Looking at the 1841 returns William's immediate (apparent) neighbours, > that > is the two families before and the two after, there were 3 blacksmiths and > a > miller/baker, which suggests to me they were very close to the village > centre. > > As for their move to Chardstock: I don't see the family there in the 1851 > census returns, though I see them there in 1871! It seems probable Samuel, > bc.1840, wed Susan DENING at Chardstock on 29 Jan 1861; that Samuel > witnessed the marriage of Susan's sister, Mary, at Chardstock on 20 Dec > 1866; and Susan, b.1849, married James SHINER, again at Chardstock, on 6 > Jul > 1871. All these data, and others, are to be found:- > > here: http://www.chardstockwebmuseum.org/census.html Thanks for this. They are on page 24 of the Chardstock Web Museum transcription of the 1851 census at Farway under the name of FarrEnt. > > I have in the past found many links between the folks of Chardstock and > Combe St Nicholas but in my rather hurried look in the Chardstock > registers > I've not found any marriage to link your FARRANTS into my @family@ of > Combe > St Nicholas folks. (Indeed, by 1901, Samual Farrant bc.1840 had living > with > him, *four* bachelor sons). No, I don't think they link. As you have already found some of them married in Chardstock. Henry John b.c.1843 moved to Lovington which is presumably where he married (the GRO have 1867Q2 Wincanton 5c/775), whilst Sarah b.c.1834 married in Lewisham in Kent. The two I was unsure of you have answered by providing information on their burials. Thomas chr 1 Oct 1846 I was unaware of, but I would say that he was likely to be the Thomas buried at the age of 2 in Chardstock on 30th November 1848. Thanks again and regards Peter