I've certainly read about the call for the return of this map here in Australia. Historically it has an importance for Australians. And it really doesn't matter where it was created. However I learned more about it from the link that Josephine posted than I knew previously. I still remember the lessons in primary school about great navigators like Matthew Flinders. But I didn't know of his Somerset connection even though that is through the location of the UK Hydrographic Office. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Perrett" <tomp@st.net.au> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Australia calls for return of historic map -- this isSomerset article > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:45:44 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > >>Australia calls for return of historic map >> >>http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/news/Australia-calls-return-historic-map/article-3158932-detail/article.html >> > > Not heard of this down here, I see it was not even > created in or near Australia, doesn't worry this > Australian that it is in Somerset. > > > Cheers, > > Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:52:40 -0000, bev bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I've certainly read about the call for the return of this map here in > Australia. > Historically it has an importance for Australians. > And it really doesn't matter where it was created. > However I learned more about it from the link that Josephine posted than > I knew previously. > I still remember the lessons in primary school about great navigators > likeMatthew Flinders. But I didn't know of his Somerset connection even > thoughthat is through the location of the UK Hydrographic Office. Hi Bev and Listers, I've discovered something new, today, too, on the BBC web page concerning the map of Australia drawn by Matthew Flinders. Looking for more, I see that there is further information and an illustration of this map on the following web page: http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/encounter/collection/B12985211_92.htm Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

The following thought occurs to me..... The most famous, historic and priceless artifact in probably the whole wide world - certainly in Europe anyway - is William the Conqueror's Domesday Book of 1086, which was in effect the very earliest census of England. This is kept in conditions of very considerable security at The National Archives (formerly the Public Record Office) - at Kew, Surrey. Given that William the Conqueror was originally from Normandy, would anyone seriously suggest that the Domesday Book belongs to France and should be "returned" there? The Domesday Book was created and published entirely in England and, thus, rightfully belongs here. The subject line of this thread includes the phrase "return of historic map". The word "return" presupposes that the map was originally created and published in Australia, which seemingly it was not. Nor has it ever at any stage resided there. What therefore is the justification for the "return" of the map to a country where it has never actually resided? As Andrew Flinders was a Somerset man, is it not entirely appropriate that his historic map should reside within his home county? Simply because his map was the first to use the word "Australia", this is not in any way justification for sending it to a country where it has never actually "lived"! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:52:40 +1000, bev bonning wrote: >I've certainly read about the call for the return of this map here in >Australia. It is the use of the word "return" that grates with me, as Roy says, it has NEVER been in Australia, nor NSW. Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett