On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:38:04 -0000, Maureen Carroll <maureen2@primus.ca> wrote: > I grew up in Bristol and it was always Cabot - my son in law is a > "Newfie" and checking with him I find that Newfoundlanders also call him > Cabot with the T. Thanks for your response, Maureen. It looks like Polly and I are in the minority having grown up with the pronunciation Cabo'. I never gave it a thought until yesterday, when relatives were discussing their visit to the shopping centre at Cabot Circus in Bristol and pronounced it as Cabot with a t. Well, I certainly learn something new everyday:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Just to add my 2 pennyworth! I was also brought up in Bristol and always pronounced the T. I remember on the walls of my School (Merrywood) we had a copy of the painting by Ernest Board of John & Sebastian Cabot leaving Bristol in the Matthew. I don't remember ever being told to pronounce it as Cabo' as a child In 1924 my mother took part in The Bristol Pageant which was presented in Ashton Court and in the then newly opened Wembley Stadium at the Empire Exhibition. I have a copy of the original programme which also contains a print of the same painting - the 3rd scene of the Pageant depicted the return of John Cabot to Bristol - in recounting her experiences my mother also pronounced Cabot with a T - so presumably it was said that way in that production as well. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Pronunciation of Cabot in Bristol > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:38:04 -0000, Maureen Carroll <maureen2@primus.ca> > wrote: > >> I grew up in Bristol and it was always Cabot - my son in law is a >> "Newfie" and checking with him I find that Newfoundlanders also call him >> Cabot with the T. > > Thanks for your response, Maureen. It looks like Polly and I are in the > minority having grown up with the pronunciation Cabo'. I never gave it a > thought until yesterday, when relatives were discussing their visit to the > shopping centre at Cabot Circus in Bristol and pronounced it as Cabot with > a t. > > Well, I certainly learn something new everyday:-) > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:22 -0000, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I remember on the walls of my School (Merrywood) we had a copy of the > painting by Ernest Board of John & Sebastian Cabot leaving Bristol in > the Matthew. Thanks for mentioning this painting, Pat. Of course, I had to go and have a look for it. Putting "Ernest Board""Cabot" into Google brings up some sites showing the 1906 painting of The Departure of John and Sebastian Cabot from Bristol on their First Voyage of Discovery in 1497. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:22 -0000, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In 1924 my mother took part in The Bristol Pageant which was presented in > Ashton Court and in the then newly opened Wembley Stadium at the Empire > Exhibition. I thought that there would be some photographs of The Bristol Pageant of 1924 to view, but I've only found one. It's just over half way down the following page about 'Bristol - 1450 onwards': http://www.brisray.com/bristol/bhist4.htm The photograph taken at Ashton Court in May 1924 shows a re-enactment of the procession of Queen Elizabeth I in Bristol. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thanks for that - It's a good photograph - I have some newspaper accounts of the events and some snapshots which my mother took. It was the Queen Elizabeth section in which she took part - as one of the dancers. She often recounted how at Wembley it poured with rain and the dye ran from their costumes so badly that it stained all their underclothes! She was nearly 14 at the time and it was her first visit to London - all very exciting for her. The Queen was played by a Nancy STEADMAN who can be found on the 1911 census as a 13 year-old living in Clifton. The Pageant had 7 scenes depicting events in Bristol history 1 The re-signing of the Magna Carta, by which took place in Bristol Nov 11th 1216 2 William Canynges in 1461 receiving Edward IV 3 The return of John Cabot in 1497 4 The visit of Queen Elizabeth in 1574 5 The departure of John Guy to Newfoundland in 1610 - the first Governor of Newfoundland 6 The siege of Bristol in 1643 - and the part played by the women of Bristol led by Dorothy Hazard 7 The election of Edmund Burke 1774 Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:52 PM Subject: [B&S] Photograph of Bristol Pageant of 1924 (was Pronunciation of Cabot in Bristol) > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:22 -0000, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> > wrote: > >> In 1924 my mother took part in The Bristol Pageant which was presented in >> Ashton Court and in the then newly opened Wembley Stadium at the Empire >> Exhibition. > > I thought that there would be some photographs of The Bristol Pageant of > 1924 to view, but I've only found one. It's just over half way down the > following page about 'Bristol - 1450 onwards': > > http://www.brisray.com/bristol/bhist4.htm > > The photograph taken at Ashton Court in May 1924 shows a re-enactment of > the procession of Queen Elizabeth I in Bristol. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com >

> > Here in Australia we were taught to pronounce it Cabo without the T. This was in the 1950's. And we NEVER spelled words like recognise with an ize and still don't. I find it surprising that English teachers in England would teach the American way of spelling. Dallas in warm, humid Brisbane

Hello all My wife (who works in this field) tells me that both ise and ize are acceptable. Americans generally use ize and the British generally use ise but not universally; it is a matter of house style and consistency. ize occurs in English from the middle ages onwards (and so was probably taken to America by the early settlers). So Oxford University Press uses ize and so did the London Times until recently. Some verbs, such as advertise and advise, are always spelt with ise, even in America. Adrian O Beckenham, Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dallas Window" <grandally@gmail.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Cc: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:32 AM Subject: [B&S] Cabot >> >> Here in Australia we were taught to pronounce it Cabo without the T. This >> was in the 1950's. And we NEVER spelled words like recognise with an ize >> and still don't. I find it surprising that English teachers in England >> would teach the American way of spelling. > > Dallas in warm, humid Brisbane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >