Just to add my twopennywoth... Consider these alternatives... Eliza called herself Emily, her husband called her Emily, she had both names (if you have her baptism you may already know this not to be true). I say this because I have similar occurrences in my family. My great grandmother was an Ada Emily but frequently turned up as Ada Amelia. My great grandfather Edwin's eldest son (who was also named Edwin) called himself Edward, presumably to differentiate himself. I think that when people did provide information for these censuses they sometimes put down nicknames etc. Obviously, the enumerator could have just made a mistake too :-) Karen www.the_ridouts.com

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:00:13 -0000, Karen Francis <ranaridibunda@hotmail.com> wrote: > I think that when people did provide information for these censuses they > sometimes put down nicknames etc. The first census record, I saw, showed my great-grandmother, Tabitha, as Bertha. Being new to family history, I was initially unsure if this was the right person though other details in the 1881 household matched including the two surnames of HANCOCK and HAYMAN, which I was researching in the Bitton area. My Mum later confirmed that her grandmother, Tabitha, was known as Bertha in the family. A harder one was Patty PRESS, whom I found in the 1841 Pill census. I couldn't match her to my PRESS family. It was some while later that I discovered that Patty was a nickname for Martha and that Patty PRESS was my 4x great-grandmother, Martha PRESS. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thank you, thank you! I have just been struggling to resolve the fact that a Martha Westmacott, b c, 1852 seems to have been replaced by Pattie Westmacott, also born c 1852 in a later census! I had looked up Patricia etc, had a feeling they were one and the same, but could not connect them! I can now adjust and delete! Jean > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > From: jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:43:59 +0000 > Subject: [B&S] Nicknames on censuses (was CLATWORTHY 1881 & 1871 Census & Church records) > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:00:13 -0000, Karen Francis > <ranaridibunda@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I think that when people did provide information for these censuses they > > sometimes put down nicknames etc. > > The first census record, I saw, showed my great-grandmother, Tabitha, as > Bertha. Being new to family history, I was initially unsure if this was > the right person though other details in the 1881 household matched > including the two surnames of HANCOCK and HAYMAN, which I was researching > in the Bitton area. > > My Mum later confirmed that her grandmother, Tabitha, was known as Bertha > in the family. > > A harder one was Patty PRESS, whom I found in the 1841 Pill census. I > couldn't match her to my PRESS family. It was some while later that I > discovered that Patty was a nickname for Martha and that Patty PRESS was > my 4x great-grandmother, Martha PRESS. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

?Hi Karen, She was registered Jane Emily CLOUTER in Bristol in 1841 to William CLOUTER & Jane [nee RUDMAN]. AS far as I know she was known as Emily, but she may well have had an Eliza phase! Certainly though I have plenty of other occasions when people were known by names other than those they were baptised or registered with. Thank you for your input, >From Jenny My Family History Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: Karen Francis Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:00 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] CLATWORTHY 1881 & 1871 Census & Church records Just to add my twopennywoth... Consider these alternatives... Eliza called herself Emily, her husband called her Emily, she had both names (if you have her baptism you may already know this not to be true). I say this because I have similar occurrences in my family. My great grandmother was an Ada Emily but frequently turned up as Ada Amelia. My great grandfather Edwin's eldest son (who was also named Edwin) called himself Edward, presumably to differentiate himself. I think that when people did provide information for these censuses they sometimes put down nicknames etc. Obviously, the enumerator could have just made a mistake too :-) Karen www.the_ridouts.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My maternal grandfather and paternal greatgrandfather both used Ernest - one was George Ernest, the other Generoso Giovanni Batista Ernesto David.... My grandmother Doris was Kinny, aunt Evelyn was Bunny, mother Winifred Mary was Mary or Ponky NEVER Winifred, my daughters Estherand Penny use their second names Corinne and Helen.... etc Jean ---------------------------------------- > From: jstiles2@optusnet.com.au > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:12:01 +1100 > Subject: Re: [B&S] CLATWORTHY 1881 & 1871 Census & Church records > > ?Hi Karen, > She was registered Jane Emily CLOUTER in Bristol in 1841 to William CLOUTER > & Jane [nee RUDMAN]. AS far as I know she was known as Emily, but she may > well have had an Eliza phase! Certainly though I have plenty of other > occasions when people were known by names other than those they were > baptised or registered with. > Thank you for your input, > >From Jenny > > My Family History Website: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Francis > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:00 PM > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B&S] CLATWORTHY 1881 & 1871 Census & Church records > > Just to add my twopennywoth... Consider these alternatives... Eliza called > herself Emily, her husband called her Emily, she had both names (if you have > her baptism you may already know this not to be true). I say this because I > have similar occurrences in my family. My great grandmother was an Ada Emily > but frequently turned up as Ada Amelia. My great grandfather Edwin's eldest > son (who was also named Edwin) called himself Edward, presumably to > differentiate himself. I think that when people did provide information for > these censuses they sometimes put down nicknames etc. Obviously, the > enumerator could have just made a mistake too :-) > > Karen > > www.the_ridouts.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message