Hi Josephine Thanks for the reminder of this story, I was busy baking and did not take time to look at my file for the date when I read the reference to Bristol Criminals. I still feel there was doubt. I have never backtracked on John to see if he attaches to my Tree. maybe a project for 2014. My COTTLES were also in St. Pip N Jay. Eve ---------------------------------------- > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:02:14 +0000 > From: jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com > Subject: [B&S] Murder of Jane Withey, Bristol, 1889 (was Bath historians given 'rogues' gallery' ....) > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:16:32 -0000, Eve Ferguson <coysten@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> I have JOHN WITHEY who was convicted of stabbing his wife Jane, in >> Bristol, and subsequently hanged. It was in the London Times, so quite a >> big story. I always felt with todays up to date detecting it would have >> been found to be an accident. So 3 children were left to fend for >> themselves. a sad story. Does this show up in this site? >> Eve (Canada now) > > Hi Eve, > > No, there was no reference to John WITHEY. > > However, the story is told here: > > 1889 The murder of Jane Withey, St Philips, Bristol. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/5191382591/ > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:16:32 -0000, Eve Ferguson <coysten@hotmail.com> wrote: > I have JOHN WITHEY who was convicted of stabbing his wife Jane, in > Bristol, and subsequently hanged. It was in the London Times, so quite a > big story. I always felt with todays up to date detecting it would have > been found to be an accident. So 3 children were left to fend for > themselves. a sad story. Does this show up in this site? > Eve (Canada now) Hi Eve, No, there was no reference to John WITHEY. However, the story is told here: 1889 The murder of Jane Withey, St Philips, Bristol. http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/5191382591/ Josephine

Hi I have JOHN WITHEY who was convicted of stabbing his wife Jane, in Bristol, and subsequently hanged. It was in the London Times, so quite a big story. I always felt with todays up to date detecting it would have been found to be an accident. So 3 children were left to fend for themselves. a sad story. Does this show up in this site? Eve (Canada now) ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:21:10 +0000 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > From: jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com > Subject: [B&S] Bath historians given 'rogues' gallery' of prisoners -- BBC article > > Hi Listers, > > I've just spotted this BBC article which may be of interest to list > members with links to Bath: > > Bath historians given 'rogues' gallery' of prisoners > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-25390376 > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:35:11 -0000, Karen Francis <ranaridibunda@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Josephine, for posting this link. I had no idea that Bath RO > had created an online index of their holdings - I thought I had all my > family records from there up to date but I could quickly see that I had > missed a few so now I am very much looking forward to catching up! > Thanks also, of course, to Colin and the wonderful team at Bath RO :-) Hi Karen and Listers, I'm glad you've found the information useful, Karen. I've had a look at the 'rogues gallery' of prisoners on the Bath Ancestors database, this morning. For anyone who hasn't taken a look, yet, instructions on how to see all the 'prisoners' portraits' or search for an individual can be found on the following page. http://www.batharchives.co.uk/what_we_hold/records_for_family_history/bath_ancestors_database.aspx The photographs are fascinating. Josephine

Hi All Thank you Josephine, for posting this link. I had no idea that Bath RO had created an online index of their holdings - I thought I had all my family records from there up to date but I could quickly see that I had missed a few so now I am very much looking forward to catching up! Thanks also, of course, to Colin and the wonderful team at Bath RO :-) Regards Karen Francis > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:21:10 +0000 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > From: jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com > Subject: [B&S] Bath historians given 'rogues' gallery' of prisoners -- BBC article > > Hi Listers, > > I've just spotted this BBC article which may be of interest to list > members with links to Bath: > > Bath historians given 'rogues' gallery' of prisoners > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-25390376 > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, Further to my previous message about Bath's 'rogues' gallery' of prisoners, this Bath Chronicle article has caught my eye: Named and shamed: Bath's most wanted criminals of yesteryear http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Named-shamed-Bath-s-wanted-criminals-yesteryear/story-20326661-detail/story.html Josephine

Hi Listers, I've just spotted this BBC article which may be of interest to list members with links to Bath: Bath historians given 'rogues' gallery' of prisoners http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-25390376 Josephine

Sorry Folk, this is addressed to Jason, My Computer crashed before I could send this reply to him and I do not have his address. I have PRIDDY, PREDDY, PREDY, PRIDY, PREDETH, PRIDETH and variations in my tree. I have searched the Parish Records for Priddy for the PRIDDY name and I can save you time. There is no PRIDDY in Priddy parish. However, if you would care to send me information, privately, about your family, I may be able to connect you to my family. Bob Hayward

Listers may be interested in this item offered for sale on "a well known auction site" Ian

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:06:24 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > Is Margaret Brownrigg still a member of the list or does anyone have her > current e-mail address, please? Hi Listers, Margaret Brownrigg has now been contacted and former neighbours have been put in touch with each other again. Josephine

Hi Listers, Is Margaret Brownrigg still a member of the list or does anyone have her current e-mail address, please? Any replies about her e-mail address had better be off list, please. In March 2007, Margaret wrote about the bombing in Abbots Leigh during the Second World War. I've had a message from the granddaughter of one of Margaret's neighbours, from those days, who would like to get in touch with Margaret. Josephine

Mike Happy to have a look for you, if you don't already have these articles :-) Cheers, Karen > From: mike@boddyparts.co.uk > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 11:03:14 +0000 > Subject: [B&S] Newspaper stories > > Dear all, > > > > I know this is a "big ask", but I would be grateful if someone with a > subscription to the British Newspaper Archive could find and send me the > following two stories (searching for "'Richard Matthews' and Brinkworth' in > the Swindon Advertiser should bring up these hits): > > > > 1. LYDINGTON > > "... ease from last week, under the Criminal Laws Amendment Act, occupied > the court for over two hours. The defumlant was Richard Matthews, farmer, of > Callow Hill, ISi ... " > > First match of your search in this article. > > ________________________________________ > > Friday 27 September 1901 , Swindon Advertiser and North Wilts Chronicle , > > > > 2. THE SWIiMHON ADVERTISER, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1901 > > "... AGED FARMER. BRINK WORTH CASE. Richard Matthews, a fanner, of pleaded > not guilty an indictment charging him with unlawfully and carnally knowing > or attempting have ... " > > First match of your search in this article. > > ________________________________________ > > Friday 01 November 1901 , Swindon Advertiser and North Wilts Chronicle , > > > > Downloads or screengrabs are fine - whatever really - just so I can see the > text. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear all, I know this is a "big ask", but I would be grateful if someone with a subscription to the British Newspaper Archive could find and send me the following two stories (searching for "'Richard Matthews' and Brinkworth' in the Swindon Advertiser should bring up these hits): 1. LYDINGTON "... ease from last week, under the Criminal Laws Amendment Act, occupied the court for over two hours. The defumlant was Richard Matthews, farmer, of Callow Hill, ISi ... " First match of your search in this article. ________________________________________ Friday 27 September 1901 , Swindon Advertiser and North Wilts Chronicle , 2. THE SWIiMHON ADVERTISER, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1901 "... AGED FARMER. BRINK WORTH CASE. Richard Matthews, a fanner, of pleaded not guilty an indictment charging him with unlawfully and carnally knowing or attempting have ... " First match of your search in this article. ________________________________________ Friday 01 November 1901 , Swindon Advertiser and North Wilts Chronicle , Downloads or screengrabs are fine - whatever really - just so I can see the text. Best wishes Mike

Yes I had noted it was down by the docks.. that would be the area Mike as he was a sailor. Maybe they were staying at the Red Lion if number 12 is the same as was in 1852. Thanks Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > An interesting map of Bristol, c1863, is here: > <http://mapco.net/bristol/bristol.htm> > > The Hotwell Road area was down by the docks - a world away from high class > Clifton ! If you were to start at No.1 Hotwell Road in 1871 and walk to > the > Rising Sun pub at No. 32, you would pass: > Swan Inn at no.1 > Plume of Feathers at no.4 > Red Lion at no.12 > Dock Gates Tavern at no.14 > Star Inn at no.18 > Brandy Cask at no.21 > Elephant & Castle at no.29 > before finally arriving at the Rising Sun at no.32 ! > > Am I painting a picture ? ;-) > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould >

Not my man, but here is a hard name to track. >From FIBIS [Families in British India Society Database Surname Jones First name William Rank/ occupation Quarter master Unit EICS Earl Mansfield Place of death Bristol Detail Late of the parish of St James, city of Bristol, & Quarter master belonging to the EIMS Earl Mansfield, to William Compton, the attorney of Ann Jones the relict, now residing in the parish of St James, Pts/Bristol Source PCC administration Date 3 Jun 1788 TNA reference PROB 6/164

I see by your map Mike, it was a very long road. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > Hi Edie, > > You may like to know that the house numbering on Hotwell Road was updated > in > modern times, so today's No.12 is not where your people lived in 1852. > > I have created a Google map that shows where No. 32 was in 1871, which was > the Rising Sun pub, here: > https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=200775276854179164633.0004537f14f0826 > b88ab0&msa=0 > > My gg grandfather, John Gould, was the licensee there in 1871. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > Leicestershire > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edie > Sent: 01 December 2013 10:51 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > I note that I had written that my friends Robert Evans and his future > wife, > Mary Ann Tucker were both living at 12 Hotwell road in the 1851 census. > that wasnt correct, they were living there in 1852 at the time of their > marraige. I was hoping to find them there in the 1851 census to see if > any > other Evans family were also there

Thanks for that Mike. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > Hi Edie, > > You may like to know that the house numbering on Hotwell Road was updated > in > modern times, so today's No.12 is not where your people lived in 1852. > > I have created a Google map that shows where No. 32 was in 1871, which was > the Rising Sun pub, here: > https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=200775276854179164633.0004537f14f0826 > b88ab0&msa=0 > > My gg grandfather, John Gould, was the licensee there in 1871. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > Leicestershire > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edie > Sent: 01 December 2013 10:51 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > I note that I had written that my friends Robert Evans and his future > wife, > Mary Ann Tucker were both living at 12 Hotwell road in the 1851 census. > that wasnt correct, they were living there in 1852 at the time of their > marraige. I was hoping to find them there in the 1851 census to see if > any > other Evans family were also there > You had a bit of a puzzle to sort out there and did a good job finding > your > couple in Ireland Lynne. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Charles" <lynnecharles7@hotmail.com> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > >>I believe that they were no-conformist Methodist. My sister and I were >>also brought up Methodist. >> >> I spent years and years looking for Mary Anne Charles b. 1844 m.c to a >> Herman Nullmeyer. >> I found it this year in Dublin Ireland. >> Herman was a seaman and a second generation German born in Liverpool, >> his > >> father all so Herman was born in Breman Germany 1815 he married a Harriet >> Cockran b. 1811 Liverpool. >> I think there is a strong possibility that our Evans families are linked. >> Rhoda's parents were William and Joannah, but until I find Rhoda's b.c. I >> will never know her pedigree. >> >> Rg Lynne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes a very clear picture, Drunken Sailors and very thing else that went with it !! > From: mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:53:40 +0000 > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > An interesting map of Bristol, c1863, is here: > <http://mapco.net/bristol/bristol.htm> > > The Hotwell Road area was down by the docks - a world away from high class > Clifton ! If you were to start at No.1 Hotwell Road in 1871 and walk to the > Rising Sun pub at No. 32, you would pass: > Swan Inn at no.1 > Plume of Feathers at no.4 > Red Lion at no.12 > Dock Gates Tavern at no.14 > Star Inn at no.18 > Brandy Cask at no.21 > Elephant & Castle at no.29 > before finally arriving at the Rising Sun at no.32 ! > > Am I painting a picture ? ;-) > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne > Charles > Sent: 02 December 2013 14:59 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > If you look on F/M/P 1851 census address and search Clifton, it gives two > Hotwell Roads. > > Rg Lynne > > > From: eamca@bigpond.com > > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:34:19 +1100 > > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > I see by your map Mike, it was a very long road. > > Edie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> > > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > > > > Hi Edie, > > > > > > You may like to know that the house numbering on Hotwell Road was > updated > > > in > > > modern times, so today's No.12 is not where your people lived in 1852. > > > > > > I have created a Google map that shows where No. 32 was in 1871, which > was > > > the Rising Sun pub, here: > > > > https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=200775276854179164633.0004537f14f0826 > > > b88ab0&msa=0 > > > > > > My gg grandfather, John Gould, was the licensee there in 1871. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Mike Gould > > > Leicestershire > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edie > > > Sent: 01 December 2013 10:51 > > > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > > > I note that I had written that my friends Robert Evans and his future > > > wife, > > > Mary Ann Tucker were both living at 12 Hotwell road in the 1851 census. > > > that wasnt correct, they were living there in 1852 at the time of their > > > marraige. I was hoping to find them there in the 1851 census to see if > > > any > > > other Evans family were also there > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

An interesting map of Bristol, c1863, is here: <http://mapco.net/bristol/bristol.htm> The Hotwell Road area was down by the docks - a world away from high class Clifton ! If you were to start at No.1 Hotwell Road in 1871 and walk to the Rising Sun pub at No. 32, you would pass: Swan Inn at no.1 Plume of Feathers at no.4 Red Lion at no.12 Dock Gates Tavern at no.14 Star Inn at no.18 Brandy Cask at no.21 Elephant & Castle at no.29 before finally arriving at the Rising Sun at no.32 ! Am I painting a picture ? ;-) Best wishes, Mike Gould -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Charles Sent: 02 December 2013 14:59 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker If you look on F/M/P 1851 census address and search Clifton, it gives two Hotwell Roads. Rg Lynne > From: eamca@bigpond.com > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:34:19 +1100 > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > I see by your map Mike, it was a very long road. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > Hi Edie, > > > > You may like to know that the house numbering on Hotwell Road was updated > > in > > modern times, so today's No.12 is not where your people lived in 1852. > > > > I have created a Google map that shows where No. 32 was in 1871, which was > > the Rising Sun pub, here: > > https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=200775276854179164633.0004537f14f0826 > > b88ab0&msa=0 > > > > My gg grandfather, John Gould, was the licensee there in 1871. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Mike Gould > > Leicestershire > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edie > > Sent: 01 December 2013 10:51 > > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > I note that I had written that my friends Robert Evans and his future > > wife, > > Mary Ann Tucker were both living at 12 Hotwell road in the 1851 census. > > that wasnt correct, they were living there in 1852 at the time of their > > marraige. I was hoping to find them there in the 1851 census to see if > > any > > other Evans family were also there > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you look on F/M/P 1851 census address and search Clifton, it gives two Hotwell Roads. Rg Lynne > From: eamca@bigpond.com > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:34:19 +1100 > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > I see by your map Mike, it was a very long road. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > Hi Edie, > > > > You may like to know that the house numbering on Hotwell Road was updated > > in > > modern times, so today's No.12 is not where your people lived in 1852. > > > > I have created a Google map that shows where No. 32 was in 1871, which was > > the Rising Sun pub, here: > > https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=200775276854179164633.0004537f14f0826 > > b88ab0&msa=0 > > > > My gg grandfather, John Gould, was the licensee there in 1871. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Mike Gould > > Leicestershire > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edie > > Sent: 01 December 2013 10:51 > > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [B&S] Robert Evans, mariner and Mary Ann Tucker > > > > I note that I had written that my friends Robert Evans and his future > > wife, > > Mary Ann Tucker were both living at 12 Hotwell road in the 1851 census. > > that wasnt correct, they were living there in 1852 at the time of their > > marraige. I was hoping to find them there in the 1851 census to see if > > any > > other Evans family were also there > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message