I have one last request on this Robert Siderfin. On the pedigree at the end of James Sanders' "History of the Siderfin Family of West Somerset", Robert Siderfin was shown as born 1645. Elsewhere in the text his baptism was noted as 1645 in the Luxborough register "ye sonne of Thomas". I cannot find online his original birth/baptismal date which I had scribbled down as 27 November 1645 but without noting the full reference. Help please! Paddy -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hase Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:34 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Siderfin of Luxborough & Croydon There is a marriage in 1713 of a Robert SIDERFIN of Carhampton and a widow Elizabeth GOULD at Lydiard St Lawrence See FreeREG and Findmypast. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Buckley" <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: [B&S] Siderfin of Luxborough & Croydon > Robert Siderfin 1645-1720 of Luxborough and Croydon, Somerset, was married > four times. I have found three of his earlier marriages but not his last. > Robert Siderfin Esq of Croydon Hall Somerset (Carhampton parish) wrote his > will on 14 June 1715 leaving all his lands and property in Somerset and > Devon to his fourth wife Elizabeth, the sole executrix. She wrote her > will on 26 February 1727 naming a son James Gould (if he be still living) > and leaving the whole of her estate to her dear daughter Elizabeth Gould > whom she made her sole executrix. > I have searched for the fourth marriage in FindMyPast, Ancestry, Family > Search and MyHeritage. Does any lister know of a Siderfin/Gould > connection. > Paddy Buckley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe the FreeReg version is that supplied by David Cheek. Dusty Docs only "link" you to sites and have no records themselves. Jim

Another useful free site is Dusty Docs - http://dustydocs.com/ this leads you to another transcription of the Lydiard St Lawrence Marriages - which also gives 2nd Aug http://dustydocs.com/link/33/34392/115570/baptisms-1573-1903-marriages-1573-1883-burials-1573-1883.html as does Familysearch https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXQ3-342 but this gives name as Robt. SIDERSON Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Buckley" <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Siderfin of Luxborough & Croydon Thank you Pat. You have pointed me to the right marriage. Now why didn't I find it myself? Earlier, on Findmypast there were 11 Robert Sinderfin marriages listed but I had forgotten to click (or just didn't see) the correct one for 1713. As for FreeReg, I must now use it more often; I have got into the habit of relying too much on subscription services. But there is an anomaly; two different dates for the same marriage: Findmypast has 11 June 1713; (using Transcriptions © Somerset & Dorset Family History Society); FreeReg has 2 August 1713 and has more details about the bride. So I shall favour FreeReg. Paddy Buckley

Thank you Pat. You have pointed me to the right marriage. Now why didn't I find it myself? Earlier, on Findmypast there were 11 Robert Sinderfin marriages listed but I had forgotten to click (or just didn't see) the correct one for 1713. As for FreeReg, I must now use it more often; I have got into the habit of relying too much on subscription services. But there is an anomaly; two different dates for the same marriage: Findmypast has 11 June 1713; (using Transcriptions © Somerset & Dorset Family History Society); FreeReg has 2 August 1713 and has more details about the bride. So I shall favour FreeReg. Paddy Buckley -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hase Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:34 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Siderfin of Luxborough & Croydon There is a marriage in 1713 of a Robert SIDERFIN of Carhampton and a widow Elizabeth GOULD at Lydiard St Lawrence See FreeREG and Findmypast. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Buckley" <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: [B&S] Siderfin of Luxborough & Croydon > Robert Siderfin 1645-1720 of Luxborough and Croydon, Somerset, was married > four times. I have found three of his earlier marriages but not his last. > Robert Siderfin Esq of Croydon Hall Somerset (Carhampton parish) wrote his > will on 14 June 1715 leaving all his lands and property in Somerset and > Devon to his fourth wife Elizabeth, the sole executrix. She wrote her > will on 26 February 1727 naming a son James Gould (if he be still living) > and leaving the whole of her estate to her dear daughter Elizabeth Gould > whom she made her sole executrix. > I have searched for the fourth marriage in FindMyPast, Ancestry, Family > Search and MyHeritage. Does any lister know of a Siderfin/Gould > connection. > Paddy Buckley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Josephine, Not sure which list I saw this on but I am sure a soldier of some sort was mentioned in an answer to the List who was ruled out because of his age. I found this in Devon [A2A] Tavistock; QS/128/121/7 1682; Edward Carew, soldier aged 87 Seems they are never too old. Bev

There is a marriage in 1713 of a Robert SIDERFIN of Carhampton and a widow Elizabeth GOULD at Lydiard St Lawrence See FreeREG and Findmypast. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Buckley" <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: [B&S] Siderfin of Luxborough & Croydon > Robert Siderfin 1645-1720 of Luxborough and Croydon, Somerset, was married > four times. I have found three of his earlier marriages but not his last. > Robert Siderfin Esq of Croydon Hall Somerset (Carhampton parish) wrote his > will on 14 June 1715 leaving all his lands and property in Somerset and > Devon to his fourth wife Elizabeth, the sole executrix. She wrote her > will on 26 February 1727 naming a son James Gould (if he be still living) > and leaving the whole of her estate to her dear daughter Elizabeth Gould > whom she made her sole executrix. > I have searched for the fourth marriage in FindMyPast, Ancestry, Family > Search and MyHeritage. Does any lister know of a Siderfin/Gould > connection. > Paddy Buckley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Robert Siderfin 1645-1720 of Luxborough and Croydon, Somerset, was married four times. I have found three of his earlier marriages but not his last. Robert Siderfin Esq of Croydon Hall Somerset (Carhampton parish) wrote his will on 14 June 1715 leaving all his lands and property in Somerset and Devon to his fourth wife Elizabeth, the sole executrix. She wrote her will on 26 February 1727 naming a son James Gould (if he be still living) and leaving the whole of her estate to her dear daughter Elizabeth Gould whom she made her sole executrix. I have searched for the fourth marriage in FindMyPast, Ancestry, Family Search and MyHeritage. Does any lister know of a Siderfin/Gould connection. Paddy Buckley

I'm looking for any information about my 3x great uncle William Collins JENNINGS (1808-1860) and his sometime business partner John Capel JENNINGS (1803-1869). Josephine has posted here about his purchase of a sloop, the Somersetshire, in 1835. I can't find any more than Josephine posted about the ship, and the purchase seems surprising because he was declared bankrupt in 1833, 1837, and 1843 (and perhaps on other occasions). He died in Hackney, a long way from his Somerset roots, with an estate worth less than £20. His 1843 file for bankruptcy has a tremendous list of former addresses. In 1833 he was a corn merchant in partnership with John Capel JENNINGS (1803-1869) about whom I can find almost nothing - I presume they were related, and both have connections to Congresbury. Does anyone have anything about either of them, or suggestions about where to look? I know there was discussion here about WCJ back in 2004, and I recently wrote an article about his four sisters' marriages (here - http://talltalesfromthetrees.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/william-henry-castle-181 0-1865-and.html). Grateful for any pointers! www.colinsalter.co.uk www.talltalesfromthetrees.blogspot.co.uk

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:48:46 -0000, B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> wrote: > This little piece found in British History Online > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=112164 Hi Bev and Listers, Yesterday, I mentioned that the site above has a reference to my ancestor, Wm. VAWER. He was among the Bristol Aldermen in July 1604. I've looked for references to "William Vawer" before, but seeing this reference gave me the idea of putting "Wm. Vawer" into a search. By using his abbreviated first name, I found a number of references to my ancestor in the Cecil Papers and in other documents which I hadn't found before. Josephine

This little piece found in British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=112164 Mayor and Aldermen of Bristol to the Privy Council. 1603, July 4. One John Woodwarde, of this city, did yesterday deliver unto me, the mayor of Bristol, this writing annexed to the examination which we have taken of Thomas Woodwarde, who affirms that he received the same of Roger Robinson, to be delivered to John Symons, a schoolmaster in this city. We have made diligent search for the persons named in this writing, but cannot by any means have intelligence of any of them, and we have also examined John Symons, who confesseth that he hath been of late acquainted with the said Robinson (they both being persons which refuse to receive the communion of the Church of England), but Symons utterly denies that he knows anything touching the same writing or what Robinson meant to send it unto him. Robinson is at this present time in London, and, as we are informed, is to be found at the sign of the "Three Caps" in Bredstreete, or at the house of John Ireland, salter, in the same street, or at the house of William Dale, grocer, in Woodstreete. We have committed Symons to safe custody until we shall receive your Honour's further pleasure herein. Furthermore divers evil-disposed persons being of late confederate and assembled together and embarked in a small boat or pinnace have not only taken a French merchant barque in the river of Seaverne near Cardiff, of 26 tons burthen, laden with wines for this port, but do continue in the same river to rob and spoil such as pass to and from this port, which may tend to the great damage of the king's subjects, especially against the time of the fair here, to be holden at St. James's tide next. Wherefore we beseech you to give such order for the setting forth of a sufficient barque with men and munition as shall be thought meet for the apprehending of the pirates. Also that the Justices of the Peace, Vice-admirals, and other the King's officers may within their several limits adjoining the river of Seaverne take special care that no such pirates be in any way there harboured, victualled and relieved, but that such as come on land or those which shall so relieve them may be apprehended, imprisoned, and duly punished.-At Bristol, 4 July, 1603. Signed, Raphe Hart, mayor: Wyllyam Hickes: Fraunces Knight: Wyllyam Perphey: Wm. Vawer: John Welle: Wyllm. Yat: Willm. Ellys: Joh. Whitston, [all aldermen.] 1 p. (101. 1.) The Enclosures: 1. Thomas Woodward, son of John Woodward of Bristol, fletcher, aged 18, saith that coming from London towards Bristol and baiting at an inn in Newbury on Saturday last he met there one Roger Robinson, an apprentice to Anne Dyas, widow, dwelling on the bridge in Bristol. Robinson did then and there tear a leaf out of a little book he had there, in which leaf was something written, and wrapt it up and gave it to examinate requesting him to deliver it to one John Symons, a schoolmaster, dwelling by St. Peter's Plompe in Bristol, which examinate promised to perform, not knowing what was written in it, neither did he read or look unto it until he came to his father's house, and then he read it to his mother who showed it to his father who brought it forthwith to Mr. Mayor of Bristol. Robinson departed at Newbury towards London on Saturday last, about 12 of the clock. Signed by the Mayor and Aldermen of Bristol. 1 p. (100. 158.)

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:48:46 -0000, B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> wrote: > This little piece found in British History Online > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=112164 Thanks very much for this, Bev. Wm. VAWER, one of the aldermen who signed, is an ancestor of mine. Josephine

Hi Josephine, Thank you so much for this information. I wonder if the Mary Ann, Rachael had as a witness was her sister Mary.This will give me something to do while sitting in front of the airconditioner today as our temperature has reached over 40 degrees for the past 3 days and is set to continue for 2 more days.Too hot to go outdoors so I have a good excuse to sit and research. Thank you again, Elaine, In very hot Victoria,Australia -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 12:57 AM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] SMITH & JONES marriage. Midsomer Norton, SOM, 1844 On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:11:45 -0000, Briansk <Briansk@dodo.com.au> wrote: > You know.. Over the years I have collected such a lot of information and > have it all in a folder but for some reason I don't have the information > on Rachel marrying Joseph Jones Hi Elaine, You'll find the information on the 1844 marriage of Rachael SMITH and Joseph JONES at St. John the Baptist, Midsomer Norton on FreeReg: http://www.freereg.org.uk Note, the spelling of the bride's name was Rachael. The details are here: http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID =1442281 The record gives lots of information including the names and occupations of the couple's fathers and the names of the two witnesses. Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Josephine, Thank you for your reply. I have had a look over the years at the Coalfield Connections site and have sent him some of my information but the problem I have with this site is that I like to check and double check my information and back it up with either certificates or parish records etc but I have found some of the information on my Smiths on this site is incorrect(according to records I've sourced)and when I have sent an email to see if it can be corrected I get no reply. While I believe this chap has done a brilliant job with his site I don't want to be adding information that I can't confirm, in my book. You know.. Over the years I have collected such a lot of information and have it all in a folder but for some reason I don't have the information on Rachel marrying Joseph Jones but just this afternoon was Googling and came across my email to the list re Rachel in 2000.I can remember sending it but I have no idea of where I got that information from and I have never seen it since.I was on Ancestry for 4 years and there was never even a hint on her. Now I have found that email it will give me something to research into. If anybody on the list can help in any way I would be most grateful. Regards, Elaine -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2014 8:53 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] SMITH family,Midsomer Norton -- Somerset Coalfield Connections On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 04:28:05 -0000, Briansk <Briansk@dodo.com.au> wrote: > I am writing a book on my GGrandfathers life and am hoping to include his > siblings, however I don't know anything about them to date.My > GGrandfather was William Smith born 1811 in Midsomer Norton to John > Smith and Hannah > Gregory. Hi Elaine, There's information on your SMITH family from Midsomer Norton on the Somerset Coalfield Connections site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pjc4ax&id=I06064 There may be something in the information there, which you don't already have. > I am trying to find anything on Mary and Rachel and all avenues here in > Australia are getting me nowhere Back in 2000, you mentioned that Rachel married a miner, Joseph JONES, in 1844, and that they were in Radstock in 1881: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Bristol_and_Somerset/2000-03/0 953462531 Perhaps someone will be able to find them in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses for you. If they can't be found in the Somerset censuses, as Joseph was a miner the family may have travelled to Wales for work at some time. Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Josephine : ) Sandy Sheldon Gianni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:20 AM Subject: [B&S] Samuel STRATFORD, will, Siston, 1799 (Edmund STRATFORD,baptism ...) > On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:31:42 -0000, Sandy Gianni <slgianni@newkenmore.com> > wrote: > >> Parents of Jane Sully Stratford and Elizabeth Sarah Stratford seem to be >> Edmund Stratford, butcher, and Elizabeth Sully, married 7 July 1803 in >> St. James, Bristol. > > Hi Sandy, > > In a previous message I mentioned that an Edmund STRATFORD, son of Samuel > and Ann, was baptized on 5th. October 1760 at Siston, GLS. > > This may not be your STRATFORD family, but a possible way of finding out > could be through the 1799 will of a Samuel STRATFORD of Siston, which is > in the Gloucestershire Archives. > > You can search for ordering information for this will by going to the > following page and putting in Stratford for the last name and Siston for > the parish: > > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, I am writing a book on my GGrandfathers life and am hoping to include his siblings, however I don't know anything about them to date.My GGrandfather was William Smith born 1811 in Midsomer Norton to John Smith and Hannah Gregory. William had a brother Richard born 1813 that I have a small amount of information on but he had 2 sisters, Mary who was a twin (Joseph the other twin died aged 5) born in 1816 and Rachel born in 1820.There was another brother Joseph born 1823 who died aged 16 in 1839. I am trying to find anything on Mary and Rachel and all avenues here in Australia are getting me nowhere so I thought maybe some kind soul on this list might be able to help by checking any local records that would be unavailable to us here .I have no information on them at all and don't know if they married and had children or if they died young etc so any information would be wonderful. Would there be anybody on the list researching this same family. Regards, Elaine Skehan, In very hot Victoria, Australia.

On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:11:45 -0000, Briansk <Briansk@dodo.com.au> wrote: > You know.. Over the years I have collected such a lot of information and > have it all in a folder but for some reason I don't have the information > on Rachel marrying Joseph Jones Hi Elaine, You'll find the information on the 1844 marriage of Rachael SMITH and Joseph JONES at St. John the Baptist, Midsomer Norton on FreeReg: http://www.freereg.org.uk Note, the spelling of the bride's name was Rachael. The details are here: http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=1442281 The record gives lots of information including the names and occupations of the couple's fathers and the names of the two witnesses. Josephine

On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 04:28:05 -0000, Briansk <Briansk@dodo.com.au> wrote: > I am writing a book on my GGrandfathers life and am hoping to include his > siblings, however I don't know anything about them to date.My > GGrandfather was William Smith born 1811 in Midsomer Norton to John > Smith and Hannah > Gregory. Hi Elaine, There's information on your SMITH family from Midsomer Norton on the Somerset Coalfield Connections site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pjc4ax&id=I06064 There may be something in the information there, which you don't already have. > I am trying to find anything on Mary and Rachel and all avenues here in > Australia are getting me nowhere Back in 2000, you mentioned that Rachel married a miner, Joseph JONES, in 1844, and that they were in Radstock in 1881: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Bristol_and_Somerset/2000-03/0953462531 Perhaps someone will be able to find them in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses for you. If they can't be found in the Somerset censuses, as Joseph was a miner the family may have travelled to Wales for work at some time. Josephine

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:31:42 -0000, Sandy Gianni <slgianni@newkenmore.com> wrote: > Parents of Jane Sully Stratford and Elizabeth Sarah Stratford seem to be > Edmund Stratford, butcher, and Elizabeth Sully, married 7 July 1803 in > St. James, Bristol. Hi Sandy, In a previous message I mentioned that an Edmund STRATFORD, son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 5th. October 1760 at Siston, GLS. This may not be your STRATFORD family, but a possible way of finding out could be through the 1799 will of a Samuel STRATFORD of Siston, which is in the Gloucestershire Archives. You can search for ordering information for this will by going to the following page and putting in Stratford for the last name and Siston for the parish: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx Josephine

On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 01:16:41 -0000, Sandy Gianni <slgianni@newkenmore.com> wrote: > I believe that Edmund Stratford died in the January-February-March > quarter of 1850 in Bristol according to the BMD. Is this record in the > transcriptions? (If he had been born in 1860, he would have been 90 by > then) Hi Sandy, No, the B & A FHS burial transcriptions for Bristol stop at 1837 the year when civil registration commenced. Josephine

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:31:42 -0000, Sandy Gianni <slgianni@newkenmore.com> wrote: > Parents of Jane Sully Stratford and Elizabeth Sarah Stratford seem to be > Edmund Stratford, butcher, and Elizabeth Sully, married 7 July 1803 in > St. James, Bristol. Hi Sandy, This may be a long shot, but there is a baptism for an Edmund STRATFORD at Siston, GLS. Edmund STRATFORD, son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 5th. October 1760 at Siston. This baptism is included in the Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols. 11 to 14 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812 produced by the Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk I mention this baptism because your Edmund STRATFORD had a son called Samuel, who may have been named for Edmund's father. However, if this was the same Edmund STRATFORD who married in 1803, the groom would have been in his 40s at the time of the marriage. Josephine