Hello Listers, Thank you for your replies. Sorry. I should have been more explicit. Sarah SQUIRE was born about 1873 at Fivehead, Somerset. Her parents were Henry SQUIRE and Vashti SQUIRE (nee SALWAY). I obtained the name RANCON from the Death Certificate of Vashti SQUIRE. The place of death was Little Thurrock, Essex in the home of S. RANCON, daughter, who was the informant. The death was registered in 1926. All of the members of the SQUIRE family that I know of remained in Somerset. I have made the assumption that Sarah married in Somerset and eventually moved to Essex. I imagine that her mother was either visiting or living with Sarah at the time of her death. I am seeking a marriage of Sarah SQUIRE to ? RANCON. Regards Millie

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:17:08 -0000, <scjbwaugh@cox.net> wrote: > Something interesting came to my attention this past week. I was > looking at some ancient wills from the Great Orphan Book > https://archive.org/stream/notesorabstracts00wadlrich#page/n4/mode/1up Hi Jan, Thank you for this reference. I have an original copy of Notes or Abstracts of the Wills contained in the volume entitled The Great Orphan Book and Book of Wills in the Council House at Bristol (1886) by the Rev. T.P. Wadley, M.A., Rector of Naunton Beauchamp, but it will be useful to turn to this book on line if I want to check anything in the wills of my 16th-century Bristol ancestors or references to them in other wills. Josephine

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:25:23 -0000, Ian Sage <sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > By chance recently, I stumbled across the poem "Leady-Day, an' Ridden > House" by William Barnes which gives a quite detailed inventory of the > household of a labouring man. > Do others on list have favourite, less conventional sources of > background on our ancestors' way of life? Hi Ian and Listers, One of my favourite sources is 'A Taste of the West Country in Food and Pictures' by Theodora Fitzgibbon, which was published by J.M. Dent & Sons in 1972. I've written about this book before, some years ago, but it may be worth mentioning it again as it may be of interest to anyone who hasn't heard of it. The recipes are accompanied by old photographs of people and places in the West Country. The old photographs include some taken at Wells, Clifton, Bristol, Cheddar, Bath, Dunster and Weston-super-Mare. There's a recipe for Madeira cake which was originally made to accompany Madeira wine, and another for Somerset Apple Cake. Also included are recipes for Sally Lunn Cakes and Bath Buns. Particularly interesting is the page on Mendip Snails or Wallfish as they are known locally. I also like the section on Elvers where there's reference to Keynsham being famous for Elver Cakes. There's also mention of Cheese Straws, a feature of Cheddar, and the famous Bath Chap. I was thinking of Bath Chaps, the salted and smoked cheeks of a pig, only yesterday, when I saw some Pigs' Ears for sale at a £1 each in a butcher's shop. I didn't buy any, but I wondered how to cook them and whether my ancestors would have been familiar with this delicacy. Of course, later I was able to find recipes on the internet for cooking Pigs' Ears, but in past times recipes for cooking them would have been handed down from generation to generation. Josephine

Hi Millie Where are you finding the Sarah RANCON ? I can see her in 1881 with parents and 1891 as a lodger But there are no Sarah's b1873 +/- 2 years Five* Somerset in the later census So knowing where you find her later may help to find the marriage you seek Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/01/2014 23:19, MillieB&D wrote: > Hello Listers > > I have been trying to find a marriage for Sarah SQUIRE who was born > in Fivehead, Somerset around 1873. I believe that she may have > married someone with the surname RANCON. I am having difficulty in > finding anyone with that surname. Can anyone help please. > > Regards Millie

Hello Listers I have been trying to find a marriage for Sarah SQUIRE who was born in Fivehead, Somerset around 1873. I believe that she may have married someone with the surname RANCON. I am having difficulty in finding anyone with that surname. Can anyone help please. Regards Millie

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:25:23 -0000, Ian Sage <sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > By chance recently, I stumbled across the poem "Leady-Day, an' Ridden > House" by William Barnes which gives a quite detailed inventory of the > household of a labouring man. > William Barnes wrote nostalgically about the life of his youth in early > 19th century rural Dorset; life in the Somerset countryside would not > have been very different, and his verses provide a concentrated and > personal view which books of social history struggle to match. His > verses are available freely at > http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21785/21785-h/21785-h.htm Hi Ian and Listers, Thanks for the link to the poems of William Barnes, Ian. Reading one of them, Praise o' Do'set, has struck a chord with me: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21785/21785-h/21785-h.htm#page333 In this poem, 'vinny cheese' is mentioned. I have known about Blue Vinny cheese for about 40 years, but never tasted it. Perhaps my Somerset ancestors did. For anyone who hasn't heard of Blue Vinny cheese, also known as Dorset Blue Vinney, there's information about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset_Blue_Vinney Josephine

On 23/01/2014 21:17, scjbwaugh@cox.net wrote: > side note - Something interesting came to my attention this past week. I was looking at some ancient wills from the Great Orphan Book and found that several testators had named two sons by the same name (both living and bequeathed). I presume that they were sons by different wives. https://archive.org/stream/notesorabstracts00wadlrich#page/n4/mode/1up Hi Jan, Not necessarily. I have several families where siblings routinely are given the same names, and *not* after the death of the first, either. HTH. Phil Orpington, but born in Leeds

As it's quiet... By chance recently, I stumbled across the poem "Leady-Day, an' Ridden House" by William Barnes which gives a quite detailed inventory of the household of a labouring man. I found it while looking for another of his poems "The Settle an' the Girt Wood Vire" which describes changes in household life, centring round the change from wood to coal as a fuel. William Barnes wrote nostalgically about the life of his youth in early 19th century rural Dorset; life in the Somerset countryside would not have been very different, and his verses provide a concentrated and personal view which books of social history struggle to match. His verses are available freely at http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21785/21785-h/21785-h.htm Do others on list have favourite, less conventional sources of background on our ancestors' way of life? Ian

Did you try Free BMD for Langport, Somerset 1873. Check the Genuki site: ( http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Fivehead/ ) Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: MillieB&D Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 PM To: bristol_and_somerset Subject: [B&S] Sarah SQUIRE Hello Listers I have been trying to find a marriage for Sarah SQUIRE who was born in Fivehead, Somerset around 1873. I believe that she may have married someone with the surname RANCON. I am having difficulty in finding anyone with that surname. Can anyone help please. Regards Millie

I am slowly sorting thru the Bristol Jacksons. The Jackson/Hobson line seems to be reported in conflict to the documentation. side note - Something interesting came to my attention this past week. I was looking at some ancient wills from the Great Orphan Book and found that several testators had named two sons by the same name (both living and bequeathed). I presume that they were sons by different wives. https://archive.org/stream/notesorabstracts00wadlrich#page/n4/mode/1up Thomas Jackson is named in the 1616 will of his father Miles Jackson and is under age 22. (by 1st wife Marie Satchfield, illegit dau of mayor William Bird). It was arranged for him to be apprenticed under JohnTomlinson, a Bristol merchant. Thomas likely was born in Combehay, Somerset (across border from Bristol) Thomas Jackson and Anne, dau of mayor Henry Hobson (chr 1601) were mar. 10 Jun 1622 All Saints, Bristol, Gloucester Thomas Jackson, Bristol - Sheriff, 1632-1633; Warden Merchant Venturers, 1627-1628; died 4 Mar 1634-5. Thomas Jackson, merchant of Bristol, had written a death-bed will on the last day of Feb 1635 ordering his brother Miles Jackson and brother in law William Hobson to see that his estate is divided equally into 6 parts - one part to his wife and the rest to his (5) children (unnamed). Told in the presence of Henry Hobson, Joseph Jackson, Alice Cary, Anne Stanfast and shortly after died. The probate written in Latin mentions Anne Jackson 'relic' Thomas Jackson mortat A January 16 margin note (to the will) mentions Anne Jackson alias Thurston 'relicte' I am presuming that Ann remarried to ( ) Thurston about a year after Thomas died. DEED 19 May 1626 Lease for 60 years 1) Sir Charles Gerard of Hallsall, Lancs, Knt., Matthew Warren, clothier, Francis Creswick and Thomas JACKSON, merchants, and Henry Hobson, innholder, all of Bristol (buyers) 2) Thomas Walter of Stapleton, yeo. (seller) Stapleton Rectory and all tithes belonging to it, annual pension of 2 lbs wax payable by the Proctors of Stapleton Church, tenement near to the Church, tithes and profits of hill called Northeway, advowson of Stapleton Vicarage, 10 acres of land called Monkes Furlonge in Stapleton. Annual rent: 2s. Covenant, Henry Hobson to Thomas Walter, to discharge two annual rents of 13s. 9½d. and 35s. 4¾d., chargeable on the lands of the dissolved priories of St. Mary Magdalen and St. James, Bristol, the premises above possibly being part of the priories' property. National Archives (Bristol Record Office) Mayors and Sheriffs of Bristol 1600 -1699 from 'Annals of Bristol Vol. 1' by John Latimer 1632 mayor, Henry Hobson, Innkeeper ; sheriffs, Thomas JACKSON and Wm. Fitzherbert Jan

Hi Listers, An article in the Wells Journal features Grandad's Great War Diary by Geoffrey Dickson, which is a story of life in the trenches. http://www.wellsjournal.co.uk/True-life-war-story/story-20481234-detail/story.html Josephine

FreeCEN has just been updated. There are now over 25 million records on FreeCEN which are available to be searched for free. The latest update added the following pieces that may be of interest to members of the list: 1841 Gloucestershire HO107/360 Kiftsgate Parishes of Lower Div Aston Somerville, Buckland, Laverton, Charlton Abbots, Childs Wickham, Murcott, Didbrook, Coscomb, Pinnock & Hyde, Worrington Grange, Dumbleton, Power Lower Guyting, Farmcote, Guyting Grange, Cartlet, Temple Guyting, Barton, Ford, Kineto 1841 Somerset HO107/947 Keynsham Parishes of Brislington, Burnett, Queen Charlton, Chelwood, Compton Dando, Farmborough, Keynsham, Marksbury, Nempnett Thrubwell, Pensford St Thomas, Priston, Publow, Saltford, Stanton Drew, Whitchurch 1871 Somerset RG10/2348 Minehead Parishes of Minehead, Selworthy 1871 Somerset RG10/2349 Minehead Parishes of Luccombe Luckham, Porlock, Bossington, Hancombe, Oare, Culbone 1871 Somerset RG10/2364 Wellington Parishes of Wellington, Rockwell Green, Westford, Holywell Lake, Oldway, Pyles Thorn, Nynehead, Runnington, Sampford Arundel 1871 Somerset RG10/2422 Castle Cary Parishes of South Cadbury, Compton Pauncefoot, Castle Cary Regards Geoff Jarvis FreeCEN Coordinator Somerset (1841 - 1871) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~somtcen/ Census Coordinator Somerset OPC Project http://wsom-opc.org.uk/

On 22/01/2014 07:30, Polly Rubery wrote (among other things): > Hi Phil > > Some websites enable you to edit your content "on the fly" but probably if > this was true with yours you would already know and have used that method > before. Hi Polly, Long time no see! Very many thanks. I need to go to Virgin Media and reset my password as I have not used Virgin for some time. Using an FTP program to get and put back the one Index page was not going to be a problem apart from as you say knowing the password! Editing that page, neither. I used to use a free FTP program any way, but not for some time. So, it would just be a matter of reminding myself what to do. Many thanks Kind regards Phil

Hi Phil Some websites enable you to edit your content "on the fly" but probably if this was true with yours you would already know and have used that method before. The real question is do you remember you username and password to access your website files? If you do then it's easy to do - first of all you need to download and save your index page to your own computer (or maybe you already have it there as your back up?). Then load this file (page) into InternetExplorer (by clicking on it) and click on File>Edit with Notepad. If you do not get Notepad as a choice you may have to go Tools>Internet Options>Programs and select Notepad as your "HTML editor". Once the Notepad file is open search for the strings that you want to change, edit them and then save and close the file. Hit the refresh button on your IE page and check that the edits work correctly. Then down load WS_FTP 12 (which is a free and easy to use FTP program) and upload your edited file. Or if you wish let me have your log-on details and I will do it for you. Kind regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Warn" <philwarnorp2@gmail.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: [B&S] Any easy way to edit a web page? Dear all, I hope I can do this? My web pages have not been updated for 5 years. In that time I have changed to using a gmail email address. Does any one know the easiest way of editing the index page? All I need to do is to change two strings. 1) from philwarn to philwarnorp2 2) from ntlworld.com to gmail.com So, basically I want to insert "orp2" and change "ntlworld" to "gmail" Without using an FTP program to download the text, edit the text and then upload it, I would like to do it insitu as it were. Is there a free program that will achieve this? I have not got the latest versions of the software that took a GEDCOM file and spat out the files that were uploaded! That web site has an old email address. Many thanks Phil ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear all, I hope I can do this? My web pages have not been updated for 5 years. In that time I have changed to using a gmail email address. Does any one know the easiest way of editing the index page? All I need to do is to change two strings. 1) from philwarn to philwarnorp2 2) from ntlworld.com to gmail.com So, basically I want to insert "orp2" and change "ntlworld" to "gmail" Without using an FTP program to download the text, edit the text and then upload it, I would like to do it insitu as it were. Is there a free program that will achieve this? I have not got the latest versions of the software that took a GEDCOM file and spat out the files that were uploaded! That web site has an old email address. Many thanks Phil

On 21/01/2014 20:41, Tony Harrison wrote: > Phil looking at the Quaker records for Nailsworth there are a lot of entries > for WORM/WORME bu only one for WARN is this a possible corruption of the > name ora seperate family. > Tony Hi Tony, I am now doubting my own sanity! I searched for all WORME records and no John Worme nor son of the same name. John WARNE (senior) married Judith ROBINSON in St Mary, Hinckley, LEI and he was buried as we know in 1732 at Nailworth Q. Burial Ground Judith was buried in 1739 Tetbury Parish Church. Their two sons were John (1718-) & James (1722-). James is my 4*G GF, and from then on all c, m & bu were Anglican in Tetbury. I cannot trace either John senior backwards nor junior forwards. Both boys were apprenticed to two (different) cordwainers in Tetbury after their father's demise. (Their Apprentice records in SOG Library naming Judith as their parent) Just in case any one finds any of the above! Thanks Phil Sane or not?!

On 21/01/2014 20:41, Tony Harrison wrote: > Phil looking at the Quaker records for Nailsworth there are a lot of entries > for WORM/WORME bu only one for WARN is this a possible corruption of the > name ora seperate family. > Tony Hi Tony, Going to Ancestry.co.uk and searching for WORME brings up results that I had not even thought of looking for. Well done that man! Many thanks Phil

On 21/01/2014 20:41, Tony Harrison wrote: > Phil looking at the Quaker records for Nailsworth there are a lot of entries > for WORM/WORME bu only one for WARN is this a possible corruption of the > name ora seperate family. > Tony Hi Tony, I used to be the Guild (of one name studies ) member for the surnames WARN(E) My educated guess is that they are mis-hearings for WARN(E) - the original "clerical errors" except Quakers/Friends do not have clerics, I think. I wonder if that is why I nor any one else has linked in my John WARN(E) buried there in 1732? You may have "cracked it" for me! Thank you Phil.

Phil looking at the Quaker records for Nailsworth there are a lot of entries for WORM/WORME bu only one for WARN is this a possible corruption of the name ora seperate family. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Phil Warn Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:54 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Anthony WARNE, Bitton, GLS, 17th century (WARNES in east-ish Bristol) On 21/01/2014 13:19, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > There's a reference, in The National Archives, to a later 17th-century > Anthony WARNE of 'Westhannam in Bitton', who was horsedriver: > > Gloucestershire Parish Deeds > > D2957/146/44 29 December 1656 > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=040-d2957_1&cid=1-82-44#1-82-44 > > Josephine > >Hiya again JJ, Very many thanks, I am building up a nice lot of WARNE folk now. I found many on the Ancestry.co.uk site in addition you very nice peeps on B&S are finding. What I want if any one finds it is a marriage between a John WARN(e) and a Judith (possible ROBINSON). John was buried in 1732, age not known, but lived in Tetbury, buried in Quaker Burial Ground in Nailsworth. Thanks again Phil Who, when he umpired (field) hockey,carried a full set of red, yellow and green WARNing cards! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 21/01/2014 13:19, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > There's a reference, in The National Archives, to a later 17th-century > Anthony WARNE of 'Westhannam in Bitton', who was horsedriver: > > Gloucestershire Parish Deeds > > D2957/146/44 29 December 1656 > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=040-d2957_1&cid=1-82-44#1-82-44 > > Josephine > >Hiya again JJ, Very many thanks, I am building up a nice lot of WARNE folk now. I found many on the Ancestry.co.uk site in addition you very nice peeps on B&S are finding. What I want if any one finds it is a marriage between a John WARN(e) and a Judith (possible ROBINSON). John was buried in 1732, age not known, but lived in Tetbury, buried in Quaker Burial Ground in Nailsworth. Thanks again Phil Who, when he umpired (field) hockey,carried a full set of red, yellow and green WARNing cards!