Hi again Sorry I wrongly assumed you were a user as you had posted a few links from the Bristol Post No problem, I have now registered and sent a link to the post in the archives, hopefully it will help someone to link up It will also hopefully introduce a few more to the usefulness of mailing lists :-) NB It was by far and away the worst joining procedure I have had to endure ! Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > > I'm not a member of anything except for the Bristol_and_Somerset list. > > Perhaps there is someone among our list members who could add > information in a comment to this article in The Bristol Post: > > http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/WALLET-DISCOVERY-YIELDS-TREASURE-TROVE/story-20509952-detail/story.html > > Josephine

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:11:07 -0000, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Josephine > > Glad to see you came to the same conclusion > > I was going to pass on a link to the list posting on the newspaper > article under comments, in hope it would help someone connect to the > MIZEN family plus repatriate the photos but also to promote this list at > the same time but I found you have to be a member or join up > > Are you going to post a reply if you are a member? Hi Nivard, I'm not a member of anything except for the Bristol_and_Somerset list. Perhaps there is someone among our list members who could add information in a comment to this article in The Bristol Post: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/WALLET-DISCOVERY-YIELDS-TREASURE-TROVE/story-20509952-detail/story.html Josephine

I read it very closely - I THINK they mean that specific Date Stamp from Nigeria. I have several envelopes from Paris France 1870, and 1882 and Gravesend date stamped 1874, Hexham 1868 and others Jean Wood http://www.cheziris.eu/index.htm http://www.cheziris.eu/Duterrau.htm http://www.saintes-fleur-de-sel.fr/index.htm > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:16:22 +0000 > From: ovington.one@gmail.com > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] Envelope sent to Bristol from Africa set to deliver small fortune at sale > > Curious lot collectors :-) > > This tatty envelope is expected to sell for £400 > > Yet a piece of trench art made in WW1 taking hours and hours or work in > atrocious conditions can sell for next to nothing > > If tomorrow someone finds an earlier post marked envelope your £400 > would be severely dented you would think > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 29/01/2014 09:43, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: >> Hi Listers, >> >> This article in The Bristol Post has caught my eye this morning: >> >> Envelope sent to Bristol from Africa set to deliver small fortune at sale >> >> http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Winning-postEnvelope-set-deliver-small-fortune/story-20517190-detail/story.html >> >> Josephine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Something I don't recall seeing mentioned is the PCC Wills recently released on Ancestry They are for wills proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, the highest court in the land, covering 1384 to 1858 when probate became a civil matter These are the same wills as released on the National Archives back in about 2002, but clearly its a great benefit to be able to view and examine as many as you wish to as paying for each one can mount up A keyword search for Bristol on Ancestry in the PCC wills gets 8,892 hits A similar search on the National Archives PCC wills database gets 10,670 Which is worth bearing in mind, mainly as the NA have indexed more keywords than Ancestry but is also more accurate For example a keyword of Mariner on Ancestry gets only 58, whereas on the NA you get over 61,000 as the NA have indexed many occupations as well as names & places So worth checking the NA to see if you get more hits then interrogate Ancestry for the will It can also be a good ploy to search a name of interest in the keyword box, as this picks up where the surname was used as a second name as well as a surname, not much use for SMITH but effective for slightly less common names :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Jean Yes thats the way I read it too But if thats the earliest found, what if someone comes up with an earlier one Unless they know its the very first day it was used, an earlier one may come to light Think how many letters and envelopes there are around the world sitting in peoples drawers, bookshelves etc, I have found several old ones used as book marks, there must be oodles out there just waiting to be discovered Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/01/2014 11:47, Jean Wood wrote: > I read it very closely - I THINK they mean that specific Date Stamp from Nigeria. > I have several envelopes from Paris France 1870, and 1882 and Gravesend date stamped 1874, > Hexham 1868 and others > Jean Wood

Hi Listers, There has been a happy ending to a story in The Bristol Post: Mystery of antique bear found at Bristol Airport is finally solved http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Mystery-antique-bear-Bristol-Airport-finally/story-20519564-detail/story.html A previous article in The Bristol Post in December 2013, featuring the antique bear and the family to whom it had once belonged, is here: www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-Airport-identify-family-owned-lost-teddy/story-20336491-detail/story.html Josephine

Hi Josephine Glad to see you came to the same conclusion I was going to pass on a link to the list posting on the newspaper article under comments, in hope it would help someone connect to the MIZEN family plus repatriate the photos but also to promote this list at the same time but I found you have to be a member or join up Are you going to post a reply if you are a member? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/01/2014 09:37, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:17:51 -0000, Nivard Ovington > <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Josephine > >> I have a soft spot for those that fought that we may be free, they >> deserve to be remembered > >> I had a look to see if I could identify this man > > Hi Nivard, > > Like you, I spent some time yesterday looking for the owner of the wallet > found in the top attic of the former Bristol General Hospital. Similarly I > came to the conclusion that the owner could be John S. MIZEN rather than > John R. MIZEN. As you say, little can be found on a John R. MIZEN in > Bristol.

I will Mike. Write to me off list with the details please. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Matthews" <mike@boddyparts.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: [B&S] FMP India records > I've found a few potentially interesting hits on the new Indian records on > FMP but sadly don't have a subscription at present. Would anyone be > willing > to look up a few records for me? >> Mike >

Hi all, I've found a few potentially interesting hits on the new Indian records on FMP but sadly don't have a subscription at present. Would anyone be willing to look up a few records for me? Mike

Curious lot collectors :-) This tatty envelope is expected to sell for £400 Yet a piece of trench art made in WW1 taking hours and hours or work in atrocious conditions can sell for next to nothing If tomorrow someone finds an earlier post marked envelope your £400 would be severely dented you would think Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/01/2014 09:43, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > Hi Listers, > > This article in The Bristol Post has caught my eye this morning: > > Envelope sent to Bristol from Africa set to deliver small fortune at sale > > http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Winning-postEnvelope-set-deliver-small-fortune/story-20517190-detail/story.html > > Josephine

Hi Listers, This article in The Bristol Post has caught my eye this morning: Envelope sent to Bristol from Africa set to deliver small fortune at sale http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Winning-postEnvelope-set-deliver-small-fortune/story-20517190-detail/story.html Josephine

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:17:51 -0000, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Josephine > I have a soft spot for those that fought that we may be free, they > deserve to be remembered > I had a look to see if I could identify this man Hi Nivard, Like you, I spent some time yesterday looking for the owner of the wallet found in the top attic of the former Bristol General Hospital. Similarly I came to the conclusion that the owner could be John S. MIZEN rather than John R. MIZEN. As you say, little can be found on a John R. MIZEN in Bristol. > Doris A MIZEN b1921 d1941 parents John S MIZEN & Ada RICKARDS m1918 > (is this the young lady in the photo with the cups perhaps?) I found the birth registration of Doris with mother's maiden name RICKARDS in FreeBMD and both my husband and I had the same thoughts that the photo with the cups could have been Doris. > Private John S MIZEN 66104 RAMC, date of entry into a theatre of war > 27th Sept 1915 , he was entitled to the 1915 Star, the Victory and > British War medals I didn't get as far as this or as far as his baptisms details and the marriage of his parents so thanks for this information. > John appears in Kellys in 1938 > > Kellys 1938 Bristol & Suburbs > MIZEN Jn Stanley 37 Rochester rd St Annes Pk I did have a look for him in 1935 and the address was the same. I was surprised about how many MIZEN entries there are in the 1935 directory. > So Josephine and any other interested part, could you give your opinion > on the name on the RAOB certificate > Is it John S MIZEN (J S MIZEN) When I looked yesterday I thought it was an S and so did my husband, but he queried the R on the payslips which we couldn't see clearly. I said that could have been a typing error. It's interesting to see just how much can be found in the records with only a name and a location with which to work. I hope that someone will find the MIZEN family so that this treasure trove of photographs and documents can be passed to family members. Josephine

Article in Bristol Post: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/WALLET-DISCOVERY-YIELDS-TREASURE-TROVE/story-20509952-detail/story.html Edna - Ottawa

Hi Josephine I have a soft spot for those that fought that we may be free, they deserve to be remembered I had a look to see if I could identify this man It mentions that a pay slip shows a John R MIZEN , also a photo for a Doris MIZEN The Doris MIZEN could be a daughter, sister, daughter in law or some other relation I only found two with a Bristol connection A Doris May MIZEN b1903 who died 1994 (nee CLEAVER? wife of Leslie A J MIZEN m1934, Leslie died in 1962) And Doris A MIZEN b1921 d1941 parents John S MIZEN & Ada RICKARDS m1918 (is this the young lady in the photo with the cups perhaps?) I then looked a little further for a John R MIZEN and found very little and nothing with a Bristol connection Looking at the RAOB certificate, personally I would say the name is John S MIZEN , backed up by the signature on the left red bar, which looks to me to be J S MIZEN (could they have misread the John R on the payslip?) Turning to the other photos, the one of the uniformed man appears to be a younger version of the older man in the other photos, a WW1 vintage man in RAMC uniform, looking at the medal rolls there are no John R MIZENs in the RAMC but there is a John S MIZEN RAOC Private John S MIZEN 66104 RAMC, date of entry into a theatre of war 27th Sept 1915 , he was entitled to the 1915 Star, the Victory and British War medals I found the death of John Stanley MIZEN in 1981 England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about John Stanley Mizen Name: John Stanley Mizen Birth Date: 25 Jul 1894 Date of Registration: Mar 1981 Age at Death: 86 Registration District: Bristol Inferred County: Avon Volume: 22 Page: 0984 Which marries with the details on his baptism England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about John Stanley Mizen Name: John Stanley Mizen Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Jul 1894 Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1894 Baptism Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England Father: Samuel Henry Mizen Mother: Alice Ann FHL Film Number: 1596629 Reference ID: yr 1885-1903 p 23 His parents married in 1888 Marriages Dec 1888 HENDY Alice Ann Barton R. 6a 359 MIZEN Samuel Henry Barton R. 6a 359 John Stanley appears with his parents in the 1911 census in Bristol John appears in Kellys in 1938 Kellys 1938 Bristol & Suburbs MIZEN Jn Stanley 37 Rochester rd St Annes Pk It appears that first wife Ada nee RICKARDS may have passed away in 1928 (could she be the well dressed lady in one photo?), John may have remarried to an Elsie PAGE in 1929 (no children found) He may then have married again in 1952 to a Harriet L MASLIN who may be the lady in the caravan photo (Harriet Louise MIZEN b1898 d1992) Could the payslips be significant as in 1959 John Stanley would have reached retirement at 65? The first marriage seems to have produced four children Sadly three dying young Births Sep 1918 Mizen Edna A Rickards Bristol 6a 190 (death registered 1922) Mizen Leslie S Rickards Bristol 6a 190 (death registered 1918) Births Mar 1921 Mizen Doris A Rickards Bristol 6a 223 (death registered 19410 Births Sep 1924 Mizen Eileen Rickards Bristol 6a 241 Possibly married a Albert G KENT in 1945 Two potential children which I won't mention here --------------- At first I thought the W HARRIS on the Union cards might be connected but realise he was just the branch secretary now but believe he may be Wilfred Henry HARRIS b1915 d2001 He was at the 34 Oldfield Rd address Telephone books 1969 HARRIS W H 34 Oldfield Rd Hotwells ... Bristol 20232 Still the same in 1980 I suspect this was his father at the same address in 1947 Western Daily Press Feb 13 1947 Fatal Collapse A verdict of "death in accordance with the medical evidence" (heart failure) was returned bu the jury at the Bristol inquest yesterday on Henry William HARRIS aged 66 a carpenter of 34 Oldfield Road Hotwells who collapsed and died at his home So Josephine and any other interested part, could you give your opinion on the name on the RAOB certificate Is it John S MIZEN (J S MIZEN) Or John R ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/01/2014 10:17, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I've just spotted this interesting article in The Bristol Post: > > Bristol wallet discovery yields historical treasure trove > > http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/WALLET-DISCOVERY-YIELDS-TREASURE-TROVE/story-20509952-detail/story.html > > Josephine

Hi Listers, Some list members may find this Western Daily Press article interesting: Frenchay Hospital prepares to take its place in history http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Frenchay-Hospital-prepares-place-history/story-20509970-detail/story.html Josephine

I agree Dawn K -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Hurlstone Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 6:27 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 9, Issue 51 Wish we had that on here in Australia !   Yours Roy Hurlstone   On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 7:06 PM, "bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com" <bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Today's Topics:   1. Britain's Great War -- BBC One (Josephine Jeremiah) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:42:23 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Britain's Great War -- BBC One To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.xacq8xsb42w82j@orion> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;     delsp=yes Hi Listers, The first episode of Britain's Great War will be broadcast tonight at 9 p.m. on BBC One. Further details can be found on the following web page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01nprmc An article on making the series is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01npqws/features/makingtheseries Information about World War One at the BBC is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww1 Josephine ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 9, Issue 51 *************************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suspect the series will find its way overseas relatively quickly There will be a greater interest this year than any other I would say TV series seem to make it abroad in both directions much quicker than they used to in the past I watched it last night and it was very good, I do not think anyone will be overly shocked at any of the content but it was interesting all the same I have no doubt there will be many more programs on the subject this year, both here and around the world, there can be few if any places not effected by the "War to end all Wars" It is fitting that those that fought for our freedom should not be forgotten, so the more the better IMHO On the subject of The Great War, I haven't seen the following mentioned of late <http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit/> Two collections, one of poetry, letters and other items plus the Great War Archive consisting of items contributed by the general public Its well worth searching and or browsing Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Listers, I've just spotted this interesting article in The Bristol Post: Bristol wallet discovery yields historical treasure trove http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/WALLET-DISCOVERY-YIELDS-TREASURE-TROVE/story-20509952-detail/story.html Josephine

Britain's Great War -- BBC One: It will eventually get to the Colonies one fine day. Cheers, Edna - sunny and frigid Ottawa

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:42:23 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > The first episode of Britain's Great War will be broadcast tonight at 9 > p.m. on BBC One. > Further details can be found on the following web page: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01nprmc On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:26:49 -0000, Roy Hurlstone <chuckarock2001@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Wish we had that on here in Australia ! Hi Listers, I have been wondering how other countries are going to commemorate the Great War. It was such a mighty conflict that there will surely be television programmes about it in the countries involved. No doubt, there will be many revelations as the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the the Great War draws near. Josephine