Hello Bernice, Thank you for the information - the details of the wills are especially interesting - probably these can be obtained in photocopy form so I'll make some enquiries about that. It's quite a journey (by British standards) from East Anglia to Bristol! I didn't know there were peripatetic brushmakers; they would be like pedlars and tinkers - all very interesting. Thank you again for your help. Regards, Roland -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bernpeg@aol.com Sent: 29 October 2010 22:36 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] KITCHEN, DUFFETT and FOWLER Hi Roland I don't know if these Duffetts ... snip, snip

Good morning all I have received a birth certificate for Louisa PRIEST today: she was born 17th June 1839 in St James, Taunton, and was the daughter of Margaret PRIEST. There's no father's name, or occuaption given, and Margaret made her mark. Definitely the right family, then, but the granddaughter rather than daughter of Jane. Thank you to everyone who helped with this puzzle - "Leasey" is definitely Louisa! Marion On 4 October 2010 21:22, Marion <lowe.marion@gmail.com> wrote: > > The situation currently is: > > Jane PRIEST, born about 1781 in Bristol, living in Bath between 1841 > and 1861. Probably died Dec qtr 1864. > > Margaret PRIEST, daughter, born about 1819-1822 in Taunton, died Mar > 1865 in Bath. Living in Bath in 1851-1861.  Had a daughter Mary Ann > PRIEST*, born 1851 in Lyncombe & Widcombe parish. > > Preyuk? PRIEST, female, born about 1827 in Somerset. In Bath in 1841. > > Leasey? PRIEST, female, born about 1839 in Somerset. In Bath in 1841. > > Amey F PRIEST, granddaughter of Jane, born about 1844 in Bath. In Bath in 1851. >

I am a newbie to this list. Following research on SPENCER lead me to the above names. Martha (Pittard) HUMPHREY b c1841 married in c1864 Thomas (APLIN) TAYLOR b c1842. Martha appears to have siblings Dianah, Victoria & Elizabeth. The bracked names are posssibly family names - lots to discover. These familes appear to be from the Lambrook, Somerset area and were Rope/Twine & cheese makers (St Ivel) and probably owned, now called, East Lambrook manor, before moving to London! Is anyone researching these families and can offer any information? Rex

Hello Roland The wills at Bristol Record Office are in very large bound volumes. You could probably get them to photograph the pages in the particular volume. You could enquire as to their charges. I'm not sure if they will photocopy them for you. I remember when I used to look at the wills several years ago the volumes were very heavy to handle and I used to copy out the details with a pencil and paper. I am not sure if The Society of Brushmakers Descendants is still operating. I used to belong to it. You should be able to find it if you google the name. There was a big factory named Kent's in Witham, Essex if I remember correctly. There may have been a factory in Bristol too, perhaps in St Philip & Jacob parish, as I notice my brushmaking ancestors who originated in Exeter, are on more than one census in Bristol with their trade as brushmaker. Good luck with your research. Bernice

The James WILLIAMS mentioned below as the owner of the Patent Shot Company was my 3 x great uncle. His nephew, my twice great grandfather John COLES was employed by him as a millwright at his Cheese Lane premises and even after he sold the company to Sheldon Bush John COLES remained as their foreman for many years. Pat --- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: [B&S] St. Mary Redcliff Church, Patent Shot Manufactory,Blue Coat School. c.1853 > Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853 <SNIP> > > On Redcliff Hill, nearly opposite, is the PATENT SHOT MANUFACTORY. The > discovery of making this shot is said to have arisen from a dream by Mrs. > Watts, wife of the original Patentee. She told her husband that she had > been engaged, whilst asleep, in making those diminutive globes, by > dropping > melted lead from a great height into a well of water beneath. The present > firm is "JAMES WILLIAMS AND PATENT SHOT COMPANY, LEAD SMELTERS AND > MANUFACTURERS." >> Josephine Jeremiah > http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Roland I don't know if these Duffetts are related to your Daniel Duffett, a brushmaker, but their wills were proved at Bristol as follows:- Josiah Duffett 1832 John Duffett 1832 Hannah Duffett 1857 Copies of the wills can be viewed at Bristol Record Office. Brushmakers went on well known tramping routes around England and the one before Bristol was Exeter and the one after was Gloucester. They could find lodgings in certain inns in each town and gain work there. I have Bristol brushmakers and their origins were in Exeter. Hope this helps. Bernice

Thanks very much for this lead. I will certainly check it out. Pippa -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:48 AM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Seeking help with marriage CAVE & HISCOX, St Michael, Bristol 1825 On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:40:58 +0100, Pippa Binnie <pippab@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My GGG Grandfather Joseph HISCOX (1816-1907) "adopted" the surname CAVE > when he was a child when his mother Ann HISCOX married George CAVE at St > Michael, Bristol in 25 Jan 1825 (date from IGI). > Anyway, I got to wondering if Joseph HISCOX was illegitmate or his mother > Ann HISCOX had been a widow when she married George CAVE in 1825. Does > anyone have access to the marriage register for St Michael for 1825 could > check for me to see if this information was recorded there. Hi Pippa, The entry in the B & A FHS Marriage Index Vol 8 Diocese of Bristol 1813-1837 confirms the marriage of George CAVE and Ann HISCOX. www.bafhs.org.uk The groom was a bachelor, but the status of the bride wasn't noted. A long shot is that, if she was a widow, Ann could have been the Ann BAILEY who married Charles HISCOX at Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire on 3rd. September 1815. Source GFHS Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837 www.gfhs.org.uk You could check for baptisms of children of this Gloucestershire couple and burial of the husband to add them to or eliminate them from your research. If Charles and Ann were together in the 1841 and 1851 censuses, then this is the wrong couple. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:40:58 +0100, Pippa Binnie <pippab@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My GGG Grandfather Joseph HISCOX (1816-1907) "adopted" the surname CAVE > when he was a child when his mother Ann HISCOX married George CAVE at St > Michael, Bristol in 25 Jan 1825 (date from IGI). > Anyway, I got to wondering if Joseph HISCOX was illegitmate or his mother > Ann HISCOX had been a widow when she married George CAVE in 1825. Does > anyone have access to the marriage register for St Michael for 1825 could > check for me to see if this information was recorded there. Hi Pippa, The entry in the B & A FHS Marriage Index Vol 8 Diocese of Bristol 1813-1837 confirms the marriage of George CAVE and Ann HISCOX. www.bafhs.org.uk The groom was a bachelor, but the status of the bride wasn't noted. A long shot is that, if she was a widow, Ann could have been the Ann BAILEY who married Charles HISCOX at Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire on 3rd. September 1815. Source GFHS Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837 www.gfhs.org.uk You could check for baptisms of children of this Gloucestershire couple and burial of the husband to add them to or eliminate them from your research. If Charles and Ann were together in the 1841 and 1851 censuses, then this is the wrong couple. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

In article <AE2614878E4544DFAF6D0B3983A7DF27@EDNA>, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Thanks for that Josephine. I remember "meeting" the effigies of > WILLIAM CANYNGE AND OF JOAN HIS WIFE when we visited in June 2004. You can meet them again, Edna. Ian has just put a 19th-century print of the 'Monuments of Canynge on South Transept of Redcliff Church' on our web site: http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/bristolbits/bristol/Canynge.htm Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Listers. My GGG Grandfather Joseph HISCOX (1816-1907) "adopted" the surname CAVE when he was a child when his mother Ann HISCOX married George CAVE at St Michael, Bristol in 25 Jan 1825 (date from IGI). In later years Joseph could call himself (or is recorded as) CAVE on censuses but on BMD data (like children's births/christenings (with one exception) seems to be recorded as HISCOX, HISCOCK(S) or with Cave as middle name (rather than surname). I won't tell you how much confusion this caused but you can imagine. Although I have been researching 20 years, I only found out about the HISCOX bit earlier this year when what now turns out to be a distant cousin in Australia emailed me about their ancestor Frederick Hiscox CAVE who originated from Bristol. After a bit of digging I found his birth registration & those of all his siblings (including my gg grandmother Ann "CAVE") as "HISCOX" mostly with Cave middle name & had a wonderful "eureka" moment. Anyway, I got to wondering if Joseph HISCOX was illegitmate or his mother Ann HISCOX had been a widow when she married George CAVE in 1825. Does anyone have access to the marriage register for St Michael for 1825 could check for me to see if this information was recorded there. . I cannot identify a christening for Joseph who was born Thornbury, Gloucestershire c1816 so have no info on his father. His marriage certificate as "Joseph HISCOX" in 1838 just says "deceased" in the column for father so his mother's marriage status on her wedding in 1825 maybe the only clue. I have no problems if he was illegitimate or not but I am curious & it is another piece to the expanding puzzle that is my tree. Thank you Pippa Binnie

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853 We now take a view of the celebrated POTTERY, on Temple Backs, near Temple Church, known as THE BRISTOL POTTERY, under the firm of POUNTNEY and Co. The ware manufactured here bears a strong resemblance to that of the late Messrs. WEDGWOOD & Co., and still, we believe, forms an article of considerable export, in addition to the demand at home. Strangers will find a great gratification in visiting it. And here we would observe that there are several other important Stone and Earthenware Potteries in Temple Street, and in Thomas Street adjoining. Returning to Temple Street, we view the JEWS' SYNAGOGUE, which was consecrated and opened for public worship with great ceremony in August, 1842. Our attention is next directed to DR. THOMAS WHITE'S HOSPITAL, which has lately been newly fronted. It was originally built in 1609, for eight men and sixteen women, each of whom receive 6s. weekly. Just upon entering Bath Street, we pass the COUNTERSLIP BAPTIST CHAPEL, erected in 1805, and near it is a building opened in 1844 for the reception of children of all denominations of Christians, called the COUNTERSLIP SABBATH AND DAY SCHOOLS. Upwards of five hundred children are taught in these schools. The BRISTOL PORTER BREWERY is on the right, in Bath Street; and further on we pass the TALBOT INN AND COMMERCIAL HOTEL ... -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853 Our next object is ZION INDEPENDENT CHAPEL, opposite Bedminster Bridge, built in a quadrangular form by the late MR. HARE, at an expense of £4000. We now turn on the left, and walk beside the New Cut of the river, till we arrive at the RAILWAY TERMINI of the GREAT WESTERN, the BRISTOL AND EXETER, and the BRISTOL AND BIRMINGHAM Railway Companies. Opposite which is the celebrated FLOOR CLOTH MANUFACTORY of Messrs. HARE & Co. Pieces of twenty-seven feet in width, and one hundred and eighty in length, of the richest patterns, have been produced at this manufactory. Next door to the SARACEN'S HEAD, which faces the RAILWAY HOTEL on the opposite side, is the PATENT GLAZED POTTERY of Win. Powell & Co. Crossing the street brings us to TEMPLE STREET SCHOOL FOR GIRLS, established in 1797. Forty girls are here clothed and educated. A little further up the street is an ENDOWED SCHOOL, by EDW. COLSTON, for forty boys, who are clothed and instructed; established in 1711. Near this is an ALMSHOUSE, founded for twelve elderly women, widows or daughters of freemen, by ALDERMAN STEVENS, each of whom receive 5s. weekly. On the same side is TEMPLE CHURCH, which was founded by the Knights Templars, an order instituted in 1118, wearing a white habit with a red cross on the left shoulder. The soil on which the church is built was evidently once a marsh; to this may be attributed the sinking of one side of the tower, which deviates nearly four feet from a perpendicular line, and which renders its appearance quite appalling. It is, notwithstanding, pronounced to stand secure. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:10:16 +0100, Roland Fowler <roland.fowler@virginmedia.com> wrote: > Specifically, at the moment, I'm seeking information on Daniel DUFFETT > (brushmaker), born c.1740; he married Betty SHORTMAN on 4/2/1755 at SS. > Phillip and Jacob; of special interest are his parents Daniel DUFFETT > and Ann HAYMAN.. Hi Ronald, Daniel DUFFETT, aged 94, was buried on 29th. March 1818 at St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol. This baptism is included in the CD, They Lived in Bristol by Jane Baker Bristol Burials 1813-1837, produced by B & A FHS. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:10:16 +0100, Roland Fowler <roland.fowler@virginmedia.com> wrote: > Specifically, at the moment, I'm seeking information on Daniel DUFFETT > (brushmaker), born c.1740; he > married Betty SHORTMAN on 4/2/1755 > at SS. Phillip and Jacob; of special interest are his parents Daniel > > DUFFETT and Ann HAYMAN.. Hi Roland, Betty DUFFETT, aged 56 years, was buried on 9th. March 1792 at the church of St. Philip & St. Jacob, Bristol. A note says dropsy. This burial is included in the B & A FHS Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol. 3 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hello Listers, After an absence of some years I'm resuming my researches into the above noted families. Specifically, at the moment, I'm seeking information on Daniel DUFFETT (brushmaker), born c.1740; he married Betty SHORTMAN on 4/2/1755 at SS. Phillip and Jacob; of special interest are his parents Daniel DUFFETT and Ann HAYMAN.. Any leads or information relating to these persons would be gratefully received. Roland Fowler, researching KITCHEN, DUFFETT, FOWLER in and around Bristol.

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853 Returning to Redcliff Street, we go on to SAINT MARY REDCLIFF CHURCH, than which no church in the kingdom has a greater claim to the attention of the topographer and the historian. Its antiquity, the beauty of its architecture, and the interesting circumstances connected with its history, entitle it to particular notice. But Redcliff Church is also associated with the enterprises of genius; for its name has been blended with the reputation of Rowley, of Canynge, and of Chatterton. It is therefore always visited with enthusiasm by the lover of poetry and the admirer of art; and when the interesting fabric shall have mouldered into ruins, even those will be trodden with veneration, as sacred to the recollection of genius of the highest order. Under a large canopy, beneath the centre window in the south transept, is an altar tomb of stone, supporting recumbent effigies of WILLIAM CANYNGE, AND OF JOAN HIS WIFE. The first is dressed in his mayor's robes, and the second in the costume of the times. We notice that the work of restoration is slowly progressing, principally through the instrumentality of the CANYNGE SOCIETY, and an individual, under the cognomen of NIL DESPERANDUM, by whom the north porch is nearly restored. On Redcliff Hill, nearly opposite, is the PATENT SHOT MANUFACTORY. The discovery of making this shot is said to have arisen from a dream by Mrs. Watts, wife of the original Patentee. She told her husband that she had been engaged, whilst asleep, in making those diminutive globes, by dropping melted lead from a great height into a well of water beneath. The present firm is "JAMES WILLIAMS AND PATENT SHOT COMPANY, LEAD SMELTERS AND MANUFACTURERS." At the end of Guinea Street, on Redcliff Hill, is the BLUE-COAT SCHOOL, in which twenty-four girls are instructed in reading and needle work. In this street are also the WlCKLYFF INDEPENDENT CHAPEL, and the BRISTOL GENERAL HOSPITAL established in 1832. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

The 19th-century family of my Australian correspondent, who is researching JOSEPH, KANE and WOODBRIDGE, had links with was West Street, Bedminster. Looking for snippets on West Street, I have found the following: There's an 1899 photograph of West Street, Bedminster on the following web page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2057320868/ West Street in Bedminster is shown on this 1885 map of Bristol: http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/bc-bristol-w-th.htm Click on the larger view and West Street in the left bottom quarter. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

A good site -- http://maps.familysearch.org/ Edna - Ottawa

Thanks for that Josephine. I remember "meeting" the effigies of WILLIAM CANYNGE AND OF JOAN HIS WIFE when we visited in June 2004. (;-) Edna ~ Ottawa

Hi Bryan, >From my resource Avon Marriage Registers vol 9 there is the following for St Nicholas: 22.04.1812 BEVAN PAUL OTP & MARY HARRIS OTP by BANNS Resource purchased from http://www.bafhs.org.uk/shop/shop.htm Hope this helps! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Richards" <bryanrichards@btinternet.com> To: <BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: [B&S] Paul Bevan >I have been tracing Paul Bevan who joined the Glamorgan Militia in 1811. >His daughter Mary Ann Bevan baptised Llangyfelach, Glam, 6th August 1813 >said he was Militia living in Canterbury. > His daughter Sarah baptised Llangyfelach Glam 1815 said he was a soldier. > National Archives record he volunteered for the Sappers and Miners 1st > April. 1814. No trace on their records which commenced 1815. > In St.Nicholas Bristol 22nd April 1812 a Paul Bevan married Mary Harris. > Now a Mary Harris was baptised in Llangyfelach 5th June 1792 daughter of > Evan Harris > making her a couple of weeks under 20 at her marriage. Did she travel > from Llangyfelach to Bristol, quite easily done using the regular packet > ships that traded Swansea to Bristol. > > The Glamorgan Militia: In March 1812, whilst still at Bristol, the > Regiment was converted to Light Infantry. On 29 June the Regiment was > ordered to the East Coast and marched via Bath, Wiltshire & Berkshire to > Woodbridge Barracks, Yarmouth. They then went to Ramsgate, Kent in > September.of the same year and Canterbury in 1813. > > So the militia were at Bristol from March 1812 to June 1812 and he could > have married whilst he was there. > > Unfortunately Bristol Archives have temporarily ceased their research > service. Anyone able to look at this entry in the St.Nicholas parish > register ? > > Regards > Bryan Richards > www.swanseamariners.org.uk > over 74,000 entries in searcheable index of mariners of all ranks who > sailed on Swansea registered ships. > 1862~1880 and 1890~1894 complete, 1835-1844 and other years underway . > Large number of entries > relating to Bristol and West Country mariners. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message