The Rev Barratt at Hanham may have helped someone out with a difficult family with this entry Marriage, 22nd March 1884 George Albert GUNTER, 20, bach, coal miner of Kingswood, child of Mary GUNTER, a singlewoman, operative in Cotton Factory and Sarah Lilly LONG, 19, sp, no occ of Kingswood, child of Ann LONG, a singlewoman witnesses were Abraham LONG and Charlotte ROGERS. They're not related to me at all, but it might help someone out Marion
My Dad was too young for WWI and too old for WWII. Dad's Army: Edward signed up to serve in the (LDV) Local Defence Volunteers, which was formed 14 May 1940 & later known as the (HG)Home Guard. By June 1940 over a million men were enrolled. They were largely Infantry, the force was based on the regimental system and became battalions of their county regiment. During the War II, he served in the King's Regiment (Liverpool) Home Guard (1940-45). Lance Corporal #NE AE 921. The Defence Medal was issued 29th November 1948 but not sure if he ever received it as he was leaving Bristol at the time. The medal had been sent to his home in Tuebrook, Liverpool. The new occupants should have returned the medal to the Defense Dept. Actually, he left Temple Meads Station for Southampton around that time. He was supposed to leave on the 29th November but the vessel was held up due to fog. He sailed from Southampton > Halifax aboard the RMS Aquitania Nov. 30th, arriving 7th December 1948. Contract Ticket No. 182015. He disembarked at Pier 21, Halifax. My Mum, brother and I arrived in Canada in February 1949. Thanks Josephine, Edna - Ottawa
Hi, He was about 41 when he enlisted, rather old for going to War. My Dad Edward George Knight (1905-1998) was too young for WWI and too old for WWII so he went into the Home Guard Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:50 AM Subject: [B&S] Voluntary attesting in Bristol, 1915 (was Edwin Thomas Blake (1873-1930)) On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:29:55 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > By receiving the Victory Medal it meant that he was in a theatre of war > (overseas) so we can be fairly sure that he was in France. The > qualification for award of > the1914-15 Star was entering a theatre of war before the end of 1915, > (rather than entering the Army) so there is a slight possibility that he > was in the ASC before 31 Dec 1915. Edna, your grandfather may well have joined up before the end of 1915 as the recruiting staff in Bristol were very busy in the final months of that year. There was a scheme of voluntary attesting, where men were grouped according to age and whether they were unmarried or married, with the idea that the younger men would be called up first. Men of military age were invited to go to the Colston Hall in Bristol to be interviewed and many of those attending joined the army straight away. It appears that the greatest number attested on just a single day, during the running of this scheme, was over 5,600 men and the interviewers were on hand between 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. every day. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:40:04 -0000, Barbara Robinson <bro51909@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Does anyone do any indexing of these Funeral Directors records. If any indexing had been done, it probably would have been mentioned on this list. For anyone with an interest in the Bedminster undertakers Burnell Tovey Ltd., there's an illustrated account of history of the firm on the following web page: http://www.burnelltoveyltd.co.uk/History%20Complete.htm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
Does anyone do any indexing of these Funeral Directors records. I ask because our Society in Brisbane, the Genealogical Society of Qld Inc has been able to film and index and sell indexes to several companies in Brisbane and other towns in Queensland. Barbara Robinson BNE QLD AUS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: [B&S] Family's Historic Funeral Service, Bedminster -- article from the Evening Post > If your ancestors lived in Bedminster during the last 150 years, they may > have used the services of the local funeral business set up Bedminster > Parade in 1860 by Edwin BURNELL. Later the firm became E. BURNELL & Son > and it is now BURNELL TOVEY LTD. > > An interesting article on this family's historic funeral service can be > seen here: > > http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/FAMILY-S-HISTORIC-FUNERAL-SERVICE/article-2844186-detail/article.html > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:29:55 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > I found my grandpa's info, not very much, as his records among others > were burned in a bombing raid. > Edwin Thomas Blake (1873-1930) did receive the British War Medal and a > Victory Medal. Was in the Armyduring the WWI in France in the ASC ( Army > Service Corps) which was responsible for supplying andtransporting the > Army. Hi Edna, Your grandfather would have been among other Bristolians as many Bristol men, during the Great War, went into the Royal Army Service Corps and also the Royal Artillery, Cavalry of the Line and the Royal Engineers. Incidentally, large numbers of Bristol men, whose preference probably would have been to serve with the Gloucesters, were put in other regiments such as the Worcesters and the Warwicks. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
You are correct, his friend was in the Machine Gun Corps -- a really handsome fellow and often wonder who he is. I have all these lovely photos but no name, no date and that is really sad. Thanks Josephine. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: [B&S] Machine Gun Corps, Bristol officers and men, Great War (was Edwin Thomas Blake (1873-1930) On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:10:58 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > I have a photo of Edwin Thomas Blake in uniform along with a friend. > He has his cap on but, after some research, have not be able to > determine to which regiment he actually belonged. Mum did tell me he > was in France. Looking in my crystal ball, Edna, I see that your grandfather's friend was in the Machine Gun Corps. This Corps was indispensable, during the Great War, and many of its officers and men came from Bristol. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
Josephine, I will most certainly do that, but nothing has been received as yet. My Nan's children were buried at Greenbank cemetery in the years 1898, 1903 and 1908 Patricia A. ________________________________ > I have sent an email to Canford to see if they offer any services > regarding searches for children who were buried in with others. I hope > to get a reply sometime soon. Let us know the answer to your request for information. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 02:02:20 -0000, Patricia A <smadap@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi Josephine, > Thank you for that, as Pat Hase said, it was quite a common occurrence, > so I should not feel so upsetabout the situation that my grandmother > faced as there were so many others in similar or otherextenuating > circumstances regarding funeral expenses. Hi Patricia, I must admit that I felt upset yesterday, when my aunt told me that my Mum's baby brother was buried in Greenbank with others, too, presumably in an unmarked grave. I knew of the baby's death, but I didn't know that he was buried in Greenbank or that my grandfather had taken the tiny coffin there himself resting on his lap for the short journey, which would have been by some kind of horse-drawn transport. > I have sent an email to Canford to see if they offer any services > regarding searches for children whowere buried in with others. I hope > to get a reply sometime soon. Let us know the answer to your request for information. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
I have a photo of Edwin Thomas Blake in uniform along with a friend. He has his cap on but, after some research, have not be able to determine to which regiment he actually belonged. Mum did tell me he was in France. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: "liverpud" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 3:35 AM Subject: Re: Edwin Thomas Blake (1873-1930) On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:29:55 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > I found my grandpa's info, not very much, as his records among others > were burned in a bombing raid. > Edwin Thomas Blake (1873-1930) did receive the British War Medal and a > Victory Medal. Was in the Armyduring the WWI in France in the ASC ( Army > Service Corps) which was responsible for supplying andtransporting the > Army. Hi Edna, Your grandfather would have been among other Bristolians as many Bristol men, during the Great War, went into the Royal Army Service Corps and also the Royal Artillery, Cavalry of the Line and the Royal Engineers. Incidentally, large numbers of Bristol men, whose preference probably would have been to serve with the Gloucesters, were put in other regiments such as the Worcesters and the Warwicks. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
I found my grandpa's info, not very much, as his records among others were burned in a bombing raid. Edwin Thomas Blake (1873-1930) did receive the British War Medal and a Victory Medal. Was in the Army during the WWI in France in the ASC ( Army Service Corps) which was responsible for supplying and transporting the Army. His Army Identification was Private E.T. Blake, A.S.C., (T4-159129) inscribed on the British War Medal, which was approved by King George V in 1919 to commemorate the services rendered by His Majesty's Forces and to record the bringing of the War to a successful conclusion. ( Note: "T" in his number signified Transport Division). Edna, his grand-daughter, has a photograph of the moustached Edwin in his Army uniform taken around 1920; with him is a friend who was in the Machine Gun Corps. Checked his Army record but apparently were in the Burnt Records meaning they were damaged during WWII, in London. There is a card stating RASC, Roll number 101B109, pg. 11049 and that he was a Private. Also proves he received the silver British War Medal (Service Medal) and the Victory Medal. By receiving the Victory Medal it meant that he was in a theatre of war (overseas) so we can be fairly sure that he was in France. The qualification for award of the1914-15 Star was entering a theatre of war before the end of 1915, (rather than entering the Army) so there is a slight possibility that he was in the ASC before 31 Dec 1915. Glad you found the CWGC site handy. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: [B&S] BODMAN, William G. and Ambrose, Gloucester Regiment,died 1917 (CWGC) On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:40:35 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Bless these brave men and women: > http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp Thanks for this reminder, Edna. I don't think I've used this site before because, in the past, when using my ancient computer, I have found it increasingly difficult to access web sites. I've just looked up, on this site, two BODMAN brothers who were in the Gloucestershire Regiment and who were my grandmother's second cousins. William G. BODMAN , aged 22, died on 3rd. May 1917 and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial. Ambrose BODMAN, aged 19, died on 31st. July 1917 and is commemorated on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial. I know that these two brothers are commemorated on the Bitton War Memorial and on the following web page: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bitton/WarMem.html The CWGC site gives additional details. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:40:35 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Bless these brave men and women: > http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp Thanks for this reminder, Edna. I don't think I've used this site before because, in the past, when using my ancient computer, I have found it increasingly difficult to access web sites. I've just looked up, on this site, two BODMAN brothers who were in the Gloucestershire Regiment and who were my grandmother's second cousins. William G. BODMAN , aged 22, died on 3rd. May 1917 and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial. Ambrose BODMAN, aged 19, died on 31st. July 1917 and is commemorated on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial. I know that these two brothers are commemorated on the Bitton War Memorial and on the following web page: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bitton/WarMem.html The CWGC site gives additional details. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:13:08 -0000, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have not looked at the original trial reports but it seems very likely > that the order for the body to be given to a hospital for dissection was > part of the sentence under the law as it stood AT THE TIME. Perhaps more information might be in be in the book, which surgeon, Richard Smith, compiled containing papers about the murder, trial and execution of John Horwood. The book was bound with the preserved and tanned skin of John Horwood. The contents of the book have been digitised and can be found in five PDF files. For anyone interested, information on these files is at the bottom of this Bristol City Council web page: Gruesome Tale of John Horwood http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Leisure-Culture/records-and-archives/desert-island-docs.en?#internalSection1 More sites, which may be of interest to people following this story: Public execution of John Horwood from Hanham Mills http://www.gertlushonline.co.uk/1821-john-horwood-execution.html Execution of John Horwood from Hanham http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/3240914647/ Bristol Royal Infirmary - Richard Smith http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/3356711492/ -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
I am not sure where he originated from, all I do know for sure is he married SUSANNA FOSTER 1855 EXETER, he was aged 26 and his occupation was a Mariner, his father was JOHN BIDDER he was also a Mariner. Syd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] RIDER not BIDDER (was 1841 CENSUS for BRISTOL) On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:28:36 -0000, Syd Hockey <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Thank you to the kind people who helped me in my search > for SAMUEL BIDDER, I now realise that I had the wrong family (RIDER) and > you > have now put me right, the "R" looked like a "B" So -- are you still searching for a Samuel BIDDER connected with Bristol? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:28:36 -0000, Syd Hockey <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Thank you to the kind people who helped me in my search > for SAMUEL BIDDER, I now realise that I had the wrong family (RIDER) and > you > have now put me right, the "R" looked like a "B" So -- are you still searching for a Samuel BIDDER connected with Bristol? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
Hello Again, Thank you to the kind people who helped me in my search for SAMUEL BIDDER, I now realise that I had the wrong family (RIDER) and you have now put me right, the "R" looked like a "B" Best regards, Syd
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:37:36 -0000, Syd Hockey <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > If there is anyone with the 1841 census for the BRISTOL area would you > kindly keep a look out for SAMUELBIDDER, he was b, about 1829 BRISTOL. On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:39:27 -0000, Syd Hockey <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > In the 1851 census SAMUEL BIDDER is living at BEDMINSTER with his > Brother in law JOHN CLATWORTHY and itlooks like SAMUEL,S sisters MARY A, > & ELIZABETH. In my previous message, I mentioned that the name should be RIDER not BIDDER. Baptisms of Samuel RIDER (1830), Mary Anne RIDER (1826) and Elizabeth Virtue RIDER (1833) at Bedminster Langton Street Methodist would indicate that they are the baptisms of the three you have mentioned. Parents were John and Christiana RIDER. Father's occupation was Chairmaker at Mary Anne's baptism and Brass Founder at the baptisms of Samuel and Elizabeth Virtue. The address at the time of Samuel's baptism was Somerset Place, Bedminster and Wellington Street, Bedminster at the time of Elizabeth Virtue's baptism. These baptisms are included in the CD of Nonconformist Baptismal Registers in Bristol Record Office 1754 to 1837, which is produced by B & A FHS. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
Hi Josephine, Thank you for that, as Pat Hase said, it was quite a common occurrence, so I should not feel so upset about the situation that my grandmother faced as there were so many others in similar or other extenuating circumstances regarding funeral expenses. I have sent an email to Canford to see if they offer any services regarding searches for children who were buried in with others. I hope to get a reply sometime soon. Patricia A. Almonte, Canada >My grandparents took the baby's coffin to Greenbank Cemetery, themselves, >and the baby was buried in a mass grave. >Josephine >-- >Josephine Jeremiah
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:39:27 -0000, Syd Hockey <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > In the 1851 census SAMUEL BIDDER is living BEDMINSTER with his Brother > in law JOHN CLATWORTHY and itlooks like SAMUEL,S sisters MARY A, & > ELIZABETH. I believe you should be looking for RIDER not BIDDER. There's a marriage registration for John CLATWORTHY at Clifton in the March quarter of 1849. His likely bride was Mary Ann RIDER. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com
Hi Mike, Thanks for your help, In the 1851 census SAMUEL BIDDER is living at BEDMINSTER with his Brother in law JOHN CLATWORTHY and it looks like SAMUEL,S sisters MARY A, & ELIZABETH. Regards, Syd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gould" <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] 1841 CENSUS for BRISTOL Hi Syd, I couldn't find him on an Ancestry search of the 1841 census. Do you know of anyone else likely to be in the house (parents or siblings) ? It might help in case there has been a mis-transcription. Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Syd Hockey Sent: 11 November 2010 16:38 To: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] 1841 CENSUS for BRISTOL Hello Everybody, If there is anyone with the 1841 census for the BRISTOL area would you kindly keep a look out for SAMUEL BIDDER, he was b, about 1829 BRISTOL. Thank you for any help. Regards, Syd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message