The key to this one off exercise was to use immediately available resources to answer the question about the surname distribution. The Family Search 1881 census was an ideal resource and it was just a case of selecting the required Gloucestershire parishes in turn from the drop down. Running through the Bristol parishes takes about 10sec per parish but it obviously take a bit longer to find and select the particular south Gloucestershire parish if interest. The whole process took about an hour and may not have been an elegant solution but the end result gave me the info I wanted. Extracting the surname profile from the B&AFHS baptisms was even easier as I have imported the data into a database so can do searches not possible with the CDs. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Stockdill Sent: 03 December 2010 18:53 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi If you have access to Ancestry surely you can do it for all their transcribed censuses, just put in the surname and the county you want in the exact old search. (you have to take into account their transcription accuracy may affect the results) Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Sue, If you want to order the marriage certificate for your Katie and Henry as Pav suggested, this is the place to go:http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ You'll need the Quarter/Year information and the reference information that was in Pav's email too. In general, this is the best place to begin when looking for Birth, Marriage or Death info (Sep 1837-1915):http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Hope this helps, Jan > From: pav.tokarski@ntlworld.com > To: skoula@btinternet.com; bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 14:07:56 +0000 > Subject: Re: [B&S] Warner > > >From Freebmd. > > > > Marriage cert will Give Parents if Listed and age etc. > > > > HTH. > > Pav > > > > Surname First Name(s) District Volume Page > > Marriages Dec 1883 > > Earrey Henry Charles Bedminster 5c 1310 > > Warner Katie Bedminster 5c 1310 > > > > > > _____ > > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of skoula > Sent: 02 December 2010 09:24 > To: bristol_and_Somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B&S] Warner > > > > Hello all, I wonder if anyone has any information about a Katie Warner who > was born in Somerset around 1858. She married a Henry Charles Earrey (Earry) > possibly in Bristol. > many thanks > Sue. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3294 - Release Date: 12/03/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From Freebmd. Marriage cert will Give Parents if Listed and age etc. HTH. Pav Surname First Name(s) District Volume Page Marriages Dec 1883 Earrey Henry Charles Bedminster 5c 1310 Warner Katie Bedminster 5c 1310 _____ From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of skoula Sent: 02 December 2010 09:24 To: bristol_and_Somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] Warner Hello all, I wonder if anyone has any information about a Katie Warner who was born in Somerset around 1858. She married a Henry Charles Earrey (Earry) possibly in Bristol. many thanks Sue. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3294 - Release Date: 12/03/10

(Resend after original Wednesday email failed to arrive. Rootsweb did seem to be down for some time) After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead of by postcode. I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. However using readily available resources it is possible to profile down to parish level. Using the B&AFHS baptism index which is mainly pre 1837 I can quickly find there are 356 LOVELL baptisms. These are the parishes where most took place:- Mangotsfield 127 Bedminster 36 St Philip & Jacob 27 Kingswood 25 St Mary Redcliffe 20 St George 18 St James 18 Temple 11 Staplton 10 Using the Family Search 1881 census I can see how people have moved around. These are the Bristol area parishes where most Lovells were found in 1881:- St George 105 St Philip & Jacob 94 Mangotsfield 74, Bedminster 63, Bitton/Oldland 52 Staplton 47. Clifton 31 St James & Paul 15 Profiling can help locate areas a family could have originated from and also indicate areas probably not to bother searching. My GGG Grandfather Samuel Lovell married 1801 in Kilmerston, Somerset and his first child was born there but was baptised at Mangotsfield. I had always assumed Samuel was originally from Mangotsfield as there is a suitable baptism in 1780 but now knowing there are so many Lovells in Somerset there is a possibility he was born there instead. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

Hello all, I wonder if anyone has any information about a Katie Warner who was born in Somerset around 1858. She married a Henry Charles Earrey (Earry) possibly in Bristol. many thanks Sue.  

Tomorrow night, on 1st. December, on BBC Wales at 7.30 p.m. the second programme in the new series of 'Coming Home', will feature the BBC presenter Sian Williams, whose family can be traced back to the Rhondda in Glamorgan. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wbg9p Apparently, there will be reference to William DAVIES of Cwmsaerbren (Ystradyfodwg) in the programmme. If you can't get BBC Wales, the programme can be seen on http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ by U.K. residents. When I first saw mention of this forthcoming programme, I rooted around our family papers and found a detailed 24-page booklet on the Trust Accounts of Dr. David DAVIES, deceased, which is dated 25th March 1935. Dr. David DAVIES was the son of William DAVIES above. There is a very distant link in my husband's family tree to this DAVIES family. Dr. David DAVIES was the brother-in-law of Ann LLEWELLYN, who was the sister of Llewellyn LLEWELLYN, the husband of Ian's 3x great-aunt, Sarah LLEWELLYN nee EVANS (1823-1909), the landlady of the Baglan Arms Hotel, Treherbert, Glamorgan. Sarah LLEWELLYN was the sister-in-law of Benjamin JEREMIAH, Ian's 2x great-grandfather. So, what has this all to do with the Bristol_and_Somerset area? Well, Benjamin's father another Benjamin JEREMIAH, who was a bachelor of Caerleon, Monmouthshire, and Jane LEWIS, a spinster of the parish of Walcot St. Swithin, were married, by licence, on 30th. January 1811 at Walcot St. Swithin, Bath. You can make all kinds of links if you try hard enough! -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On 30 Nov 2010 at 14:11, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:33:10 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah > <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > > >> Here are some more surname sites: > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:11:56 -0000, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > If I might offer a word of advice when looking at these or any other > > surname websites, equally surname dictionaries..... > > > Treat them with caution! By all means regard them as an interesting > > adjunct to genealogy and family history, entertaining and perhaps > > even informative - but do not believe or accept as gospel > > everything they say > > !!! > > You could say the same for all sorts of other sites connected with > genealogy and family history research and also for posts on the > mailing lists. Mistakes can be made. > I agree with you, naturally! As you say, we all make mistakes. What does concern me slightly about some of these surname websites is that they are run by academics and statisticians whose researches and assumptions appear to be based on statistical data and not on research in original records by genealogists and experienced family historians. I tend to take little notice of what their findings supposedly reveal about the social classifications allotted to surnames. For instance, the social demographics for STOCKDALE claim that their "Mosaic type index" (whatever that is, precisely, since I couldn't get the link to the explanation to work) makes them principally "Upland hill farmers". That might have been true in the 1881 census but I find it highly doubtful that it is true today when the majority of the population live in towns and cities. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:32:08 -0000, Ian Sage <sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Now seems to be working again at > http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:53:30 -0000, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > Out of curiosity (because I have checked before) I entered my own name, > STOCKDILL, in the 1998 search ... I have just entered JEREMIAH into the surname search. Under 'Name Classification', the surname JEREMIAH is shown as English. It's not! It's Welsh! I've looked at other Welsh surnames in my tree, such as LLEWELLYN, and they are shown as Welsh. The 1881 map shows South Wales as the location of people with the surname JEREMIAH. No concentrations of people called JEREMIAH are shown in England on this map. The 1998 map shows that highest concentrations of people with the surname JEREMIAH are still in South Wales, where JEREMIAH as a surname is said to have originated. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:33:10 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: >> Here are some more surname sites: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:11:56 -0000, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > If I might offer a word of advice when looking at these or any other > surname websites, equally surname dictionaries..... > Treat them with caution! By all means regard them as an interesting > adjunct to genealogy and family history, entertaining and perhaps even > informative - but do not believe or accept as gospel everything they say > !!! You could say the same for all sorts of other sites connected with genealogy and family history research and also for posts on the mailing lists. Mistakes can be made. Now and again I look at various web pages with information on people in my family tree and in my husband's and I am amazed at the mistakes I see. When I first had a web site, I put my family history information on it and people, whom I didn't even know, copied details from it and put the information on other sites. I remember that I had given my grandmother's birthplace as Stone, Gloucestershire, but I should have written Stonehill. Of course, Stone was copied by people who didn't even know my grandmother or me. Stone in Gloucestershire is a long way from Stonehill in Gloucestershire and that initial mistake of mine has multiplied. But back to surname sites -- at least those I found this morning were of some interest to my husband, who professes that he is not interested in anything to do with his family history, yet I caught him having a good look at the surname sites. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On 30 Nov 2010 at 13:32, Ian Sage wrote: > Now seems to be working again at > http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ > Out of curiosity (because I have checked before) I entered my own name, STOCKDILL, in the 1998 search and got the following message..... "There were no results found for your selection. There needed to be at least 100 people with the name on the Electoral Register in 1998 to be in the database. We are hoping to add these missing names at a later date." This bears out what I was saying in my previous message, i.e. that no surname with fewer than 100 occurrences is included. There must be literally thousands of rare names with under 100 occurrences - I know some with only one or two occurrences - which makes a nonsense of the value of websites such as this at the current time. There are currently around 40 of us in the UK with this name, but according to this database we don't exist! STOCKDILL shows up in 1881 (I could have told them that myself) but with no statistical details for name and ethnicity. Clearly, they have not linked it to the more common STOCKDALE, of which my name is simply a fairly rare variant. To me, this illustrates the problems that can arise when academics muck about with surnames. The Guild of One-Name Studies, to which I have belonged for many years and for which edited the Journal of One-Name Studies for 10 years, is in my view a more reliable source! There will be scores, if not hundreds, of surnames in the Guild's database that will probably never make Surname Profiler but records of which are held in databases of Guild members. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Now seems to be working again at http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ Ian On 30/11/2010 11:38, Chris Jefferies wrote: > So it does appear to be down. I cannot get in via National Trust, > Spatial-Literacy or UCL either. Perhaps the funding ran out! > > Chris Jefferies >

So it does appear to be down. I cannot get in via National Trust, Spatial-Literacy or UCL either. Perhaps the funding ran out! Chris Jefferies -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fisher Sent: 29 November 2010 22:53 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Surname Profiler Hi Chris do you mean http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ . if so I can't get it to work either. Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: [B&S] Surname Profiler > (Resend from Saturday as original did not arrive) > > I have been trying to use the UK Surname Profiler for several days and > have > tried at least four different ways in and all fail. I have not used it for > some time but does anyone know if it has shut down or is it just a > temporary > fault. > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 30 Nov 2010 at 9:33, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > Here are some more surname sites: > > British surnames and surname profiles > > http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/about.php > > Spatial analysis > > http://spatialanalysis.co.uk/category/surnames/ > If I might offer a word of advice when looking at these or any other surname websites, equally surname dictionaries..... Treat them with caution! By all means regard them as an interesting adjunct to genealogy and family history, entertaining and perhaps even informative - but do not believe or accept as gospel everything they say !!! Yes, they might give you the figures for the respective number of people of a given surname in the 1881 census and today and work out where a particular surname lies in the "batting order", i.e. number of holders in relation to the whole population, but don't necessarily accept the definitions they supply. A particular problem I have encountered in the past with these sites is that names with fewer than 100 occurrences are not included, so that, for me, makes a nonsense of the whole thing since it discounts literally hundreds, if not thousands, of unique or near-unique names. Even the "bible" of printed surname dictionaries, Reaney & Wilson, is inaccurate in some of its definitions, being merely guesses based on etymology. The whole subject of surname meanings is fraught with controversy and uncertainty so far as many names are concerned. I am a devotee of the theories of Dr George Redmonds, probably the leading surname authority (certainly for Yorkshire surnames) who argues that each and every name is unique - i.e. one Smith is different to every other Smith - and you can only truly prove where the name of any individual family originated if you can trace it right back in records to the original holder, which few of us can do. Beyond that, you can only make assumptions based on whether a particular surname is predominant in a certain area, as STOCKDALE and its variants overwhelmingly are in Yorkshire. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Here are some more surname sites: British surnames and surname profiles http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/about.php Spatial analysis http://spatialanalysis.co.uk/category/surnames/ -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Chris do you mean http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/ . if so I can't get it to work either. Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: [B&S] Surname Profiler > (Resend from Saturday as original did not arrive) > > I have been trying to use the UK Surname Profiler for several days and > have > tried at least four different ways in and all fail. I have not used it for > some time but does anyone know if it has shut down or is it just a > temporary > fault. > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

(Resend from Saturday as original did not arrive) I have been trying to use the UK Surname Profiler for several days and have tried at least four different ways in and all fail. I have not used it for some time but does anyone know if it has shut down or is it just a temporary fault. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

If this is the site, seems A-OK now - http://www.uk-surnames.com/ Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: [B&S] Surname Profiler (Resend from Saturday as original did not arrive) I have been trying to use the UK Surname Profiler for several days and have tried at least four different ways in and all fail. I have not used it for some time but does anyone know if it has shut down or is it just a temporary fault. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some registers.... sad but true. Edna ~ Ottawa http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1129&cj=1&sid=Slave+Registers+of+Former+British+Colonial+Dependencies&o_xid=0000195520&o_lid=0000195520