Here is a wonderful poem by R.L. Stevenson: http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Poetry/StevensonChristmas.htm Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

A good site: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/medieval_xmas.htm Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

We have been watching Victorian Christmas on TVO (TV Ontario) which is excellent to view farm life in those times. http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?videoid?702345467001 Looking through parish registers we often find money donated for the poor, widows of soldiers and during Christmas and holidays. (;-)) Edna - sunny and white Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

Every year at this time I can't help but wonder how my ancestors in England celebrated Christmas and what traditions would have been handed down to me if they had not immigrated once to Canada and again to the US. My father married my sicilian mother and we always celebrated Christmas with mother's family, Daddy's was far away and he wasn't all that religious,  so I did not learn too much about how things were done by his ancestors or if anything was passed down in his family. So most every year I try to post a thread asking about family tradidtion, I do feel it is also part of our genealogy. My father's g-grandmother family came from the Shepton Mallet and Gurney Slade areas of Somerset. What foods did they eat, what did they do in their churches, did Father Christmas come to visit, do they do the nativity scenes, do they go caroling?  Did they take care of their poor, were they poor themselves, so many questions... Since my ancestors did not pass on traditions to me, maybe I can borrow some from your ancestors... Jo SaundersJS http://joni.tribalpages.com/

Thank you Angela this information is most helpful as I had no idea that they lived in London and as a bonus I now have one of their children, many thanks once again. Best wishes, Syd ----- Original Message ----- From: "ag.hamilton" <ag.hamilton@vfast.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] JOHN APLIN HOCKEY In 1901 they were living at 11 Grove Road, Brixton. (London). John aged 23 b. Chard, Somerset is described as a chemist ('drug' has been added later) Florence aged 24 b. Yarmouth, Norfolk was not employed Their son Leslie aged 9months b. Bristol was with them I hope this helps. Angela On 14 Dec 2010, at 7:32 pm, Syd Hockey wrote: > JOHN APLIN HOCKEY was born at CHARD 1878, he married at BRISTOL 1899 to > either FLORENCE MAUD MOORE or MARY ANNIE E WAKEHAM, I cannot find him > after that date, If there is anyone with the 1901 census could they kindly > keep a lookout for him, thank you. > Regards, > Syd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1901 they were living at 11 Grove Road, Brixton. (London). John aged 23 b. Chard, Somerset is described as a chemist ('drug' has been added later) Florence aged 24 b. Yarmouth, Norfolk was not employed Their son Leslie aged 9months b. Bristol was with them I hope this helps. Angela On 14 Dec 2010, at 7:32 pm, Syd Hockey wrote: > JOHN APLIN HOCKEY was born at CHARD 1878, he married at BRISTOL 1899 to either FLORENCE MAUD MOORE or MARY ANNIE E WAKEHAM, I cannot find him after that date, If there is anyone with the 1901 census could they kindly keep a lookout for him, thank you. > Regards, > Syd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well John's wife was Florence Maud MOORE. The other two on the FreeBMD page for the marriage were Mary Annie E. Wakeham and Joseph Henry Sully and they appear in the 1901 census married to each other. Now to find John and Florence. Angela On 14 Dec 2010, at 7:32 pm, Syd Hockey wrote: > JOHN APLIN HOCKEY was born at CHARD 1878, he married at BRISTOL 1899 to either FLORENCE MAUD MOORE or MARY ANNIE E WAKEHAM, I cannot find him after that date, If there is anyone with the 1901 census could they kindly keep a lookout for him, thank you. > Regards, > Syd

JOHN APLIN HOCKEY was born at CHARD 1878, he married at BRISTOL 1899 to either FLORENCE MAUD MOORE or MARY ANNIE E WAKEHAM, I cannot find him after that date, If there is anyone with the 1901 census could they kindly keep a lookout for him, thank you. Regards, Syd

If anybody has Honiball connections, I now have a fairly extensive register covering the Honiball family who originated in the Kilve, Stogursey and Wiveliscombe areas in Somerset. Many descendants South Africa, Canada, West Indies, Lancashire, and some in the USA and New Zealand. Contact me off-list, and I will send you a PDF file. Regards Straffen Short ssshort@mweb.co.za

... http://www.davenapier.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mayors/mayorndx.htm Edna - Ottawa

Hi, I believe that Sir John Swaish, (1852-1931), mayor of Bristol in 1913, married Sarah Rowland Evans in Q1 1872. The only death I can find for Sarah is Q1 1915. My query is: Did John marry for a second time ? I've found a list of mourners for a funeral in Yorkshire in 1940 which includes 'Lady Swaish'. I've found a marriage in Q2 1916 that matches perfectly - John Swaish and Mary E Mitchell in Knaresborough, Yorks. But if this is correct, what is John Swaish doing so far away from Bristol? and I know of no connection between Mary and Bristol. (It's Mary's family that I'm researching) Any help / information gratefully received. Thanks John Farnhill Cardiff

Google Recollections H L Vowles Bristol Evening Post 1935 Will bring back memories... Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

Try the National Archives site - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ 40156/11 - Files at Bristol Record Office (Bristol & Clifton Social World) John Swaish Society of Yorkshiremen in Bristol Feb. 1913 - Oct. 1914 Might give you a clue or two... Edna - Ottawa

Son of John Swaish http://www.bristol-savages.org/past-artists/120.html Edna - Ottawa

You might check through Bristol Somerset Archives, there was a letter from Dick Cannings of Canada on the Swaish/Swash family in Bristol. By googling you will find lots of information. Edna - Ottawa

http://www.davenapier.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mayors/history2.htm With thanks to Dave Napier. Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

I can’t seem to find the birth details of Elizabeth Wynne.She married John Saunders at Old Cleeve on 30th November 1802. Any help would be appreciated please. Regards, Steve

I thought I should at least let you know that, to date - and it is now 2 months since I sent in my inquiry - I have not had any response whatsoever from Canford. I have to admit to being somewhat disappointed. Patricia A Almonte, Canada ________________________________ t. > I have sent an email to Canford to see if they offer any services > regarding searches for children who were buried in with others. I hope > to get a reply sometime soon. Let us know the answer to your request for information. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I have never tried using a library to access Ancestry but with Ancestry UK costing less than 11UKP for a month or 6 weeks with a "free trial" first it can work out cheaper by the time you include petrol, parking etc. It is also so much easier having all your family history data with you when you search the census and find something unexpected which needs checking. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: liverpud [mailto:liverpud-49@rogers.com] Sent: 04 December 2010 00:06 To: Chris Jefferies Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler Chris, Can you not use the facilities at the library. We can retrieve Ancestry here in Ottawa. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler I expect it could have been done using any of the census versions but I currently don't have a subscription to any. As I have been doing family history for about 28 years I only take out a month subscription out Ancestry occasionally when I have built up a large enough list. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fisher Sent: 03 December 2010 21:15 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler Hi If you have access to Ancestry surely you can do it for all their transcribed censuses, just put in the surname and the county you want in the exact old search. (you have to take into account their transcription accuracy may affect the results) Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I expect it could have been done using any of the census versions but I currently don’t have a subscription to any. As I have been doing family history for about 28 years I only take out a month subscription out Ancestry occasionally when I have built up a large enough list. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fisher Sent: 03 December 2010 21:15 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler Hi If you have access to Ancestry surely you can do it for all their transcribed censuses, just put in the surname and the county you want in the exact old search. (you have to take into account their transcription accuracy may affect the results) Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message