Here is picture of Picton St from junction with Ashley Rd on Google Streetview probably taken 2009:- >http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Picton+Street ,+Bristol&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=19.175733,27.46582&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear= Picton+St,+Bristol,+Avon+BS6,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.464769,-2.589083&spn=0,0. 013411&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.464351,-2.589245&panoid=xLv0V4NDOAfK9n_O_2iA1g&c bp=12,332.51,,0,8.76> With a little practice you can "Walk" the length of the street turning to look at the houses on either side and zooming in to read house numbers or names. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 19 December 2010 16:18 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Picton Street, Bristol On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 14:56:18 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > If you google, the street is still there > - Picton St Bristol UK map - Hi Edna, Ian's very good at looking up maps on the internet, but I must practice:-) I have a Bristol Bath A-Z (2003), which includes Avonmouth, Bradley Stoke, Filton, Keynsham, Kingswood, Mangotsfield, Portishead and Yate. I find this very useful when looking up addresses. If an address is not in it, I then turn to the Alan Godfrey Old Ordnamce Survey Maps of Bristol. Street Names of Bristol: Their Origins and Meanings (2002 2nd. edition, Veronica Smith, is useful in finding out the history of Bristol street names. Picton Street is named after Lieutenant-General Sir Thomas Picton who died at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 14:56:18 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > If you google, the street is still there > - Picton St Bristol UK map - Hi Edna, Ian's very good at looking up maps on the internet, but I must practice:-) I have a Bristol Bath A-Z (2003), which includes Avonmouth, Bradley Stoke, Filton, Keynsham, Kingswood, Mangotsfield, Portishead and Yate. I find this very useful when looking up addresses. If an address is not in it, I then turn to the Alan Godfrey Old Ordnamce Survey Maps of Bristol. Street Names of Bristol: Their Origins and Meanings (2002 2nd. edition, Veronica Smith, is useful in finding out the history of Bristol street names. Picton Street is named after Lieutenant-General Sir Thomas Picton who died at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Today, I had an off-list message about the parish in which Picton Street, Bristol was situated. My reply was that some of Picton Street was in the parish of St. Barnabas and some in the parish of St. Andrew, Montpelier, in 1911, though I don't know what the situation would have been earlier. In 1911, the odd numbers of Picton Street 1-39 were in the parish of St. Barnabas, while the even numbers 2-58 and the odd numbers 41-49 were in the parish of St. Andrew. Montpelier. A web page for St. Andrew's Church, Montpelier is here: http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/montpel.htm Picton Street is at the top of 1F and 1 G on the following Bristol map of 1910: http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I have looked at most of the former residences of my family. Some places look rather sad looking but many others do look rather nice. I looked up 6 Trinity St Bristol and was rather disappointed. The dilapitated garage is still there but a awful modern block of flats is there right now. Give it a try. (;-)) Edna - sunny and snowy Ottawa

Thanks Tony Yes I think that is my best course of action. Also the will of Ambrose Webley might help as I only have the details from the probate register at present. Regards Bob

Hi Bob I think getting the wills of Isaac and if there is one of William might help. My wife's 3xGGrandfather's will was witnessed by two people with the same surname who I could not associate with him. Eventually from a will and use of the census and parish records it turned out they were cousins. Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Sanders" <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: [B&S] WEBLEY, Isaac > Josephine > > Thanks for replying. I did have the information on Isaac Webley marriages > as > I have the BFHS transcripts. I think Isaac & Sarah were the parents of > William whose two children were the executors of Ambrose's will but I > cannot > see any relationship to Ambrose. > > Regards & Happy Christmas > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 18 December 2010 23:16 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could have > been so different (Josephine Jeremiah) > 2. Re: Frank LINDSELL (Josephine Jeremiah) > 3. St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > (Josephine Jeremiah) > 4. Re: St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > (David Lindsell) > 5. Re: Christmas tradition (Josephine Jeremiah) > 6. Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas on > Bristol map of 1910 (Josephine Jeremiah) > 7. The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, 1916 ( > was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) (Josephine Jeremiah) > 8. WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 (was A > Family Conundrum !) (Josephine Jeremiah) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:05:48 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could > have been so different > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnwxfymk42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > For anyone interested in Brunel, there's an article in the Evening Post on > how Bristol's famous Clifton Suspension Bridge could have been so > different: > > http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Iconic-landmark-different/article-302103 > 2-detail/article.html > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: Re: [B&S] Frank LINDSELL > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnw44xja42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > Hi David, > > As far as I know, there wasn't a James Street in Clifton, but Clifton may > be the registration district on your great-grandfather's birth > certificate. If it was the registration district, then a possible address > might be James Street, which was once between Grosvenor Street and Ashley > Road in Bristol. Three streets, which were parallel with James Street, are > still there. They are William Street, Denbigh Street and Campbell Street. > > I say possible address because, although I know that James Street, near > Grosvenor Road, was built by 1875, I don't know if it was there in 1863. > > If this is the right James Street, then a church where your > great-grandfather could have been baptized could have been St. Barnabas, > which was close by, at the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnw44xsw42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >> information would you expect to find from his baptism? > > Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely > church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. > > In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my > families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. > > If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is > the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on > the following web page: > > http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000 > From: "David Lindsell" <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D5E54120951243D3BEBA07A5A939F477@d824a89acdee04> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church but > will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors were > baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:51 PM > Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > > >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell >> <trained@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >>> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >>> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? >> >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill >> <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >>> information would you expect to find from his baptism? >> >> Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely >> church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. >> >> In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where >> my >> families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. >> >> If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is >> the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on >> the following web page: >> >> http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm >> >> -- >> Josephine Jeremiah >> www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:55:03 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: Re: [B&S] Christmas tradition > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxat1zu42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:53:49 -0000, Joni Saunders <josaun@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >> Every year at this time I can't help but wonder how my ancestors in >> England celebrated Christmas and what traditions would have been handed >> down to me if they had not immigrated once to Canada and again to the >> US... My father's >> g-grandmother family came from the Shepton Mallet and Gurney Slade areas >> of Somerset. > > Hi Jo, > > The custom of Wassailing in Somerset springs to mind. > > The following web site is about Wassailing, which takes place between > Christmas Eve and Twelfth Night. > > http://www.england-in-particular.info/orchards/o-wass.html > > More information on Wassailing is here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassailing > > Wassailing events in Somerset for last year, January 2009, are listed > here: > > http://www.england-in-particular.info/new/n-wass.html > > Scroll down for the Somerset information. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:29:24 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas > on Bristol map of 1910 > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxe7av942w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church >> but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors >> were >> baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. > > Hi David, > > Thanks for your response. You might like to see the position of James > Street near Grosvenor Road on a 1910 map of Bristol, which is on the > following web page: > > http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm > > James Street is near the top of 1G on the map, near the junction of Ashley > Road and City Road. > > The church of St. Barnabas was situated in the triangle, shown on the map, > between Ashley Road and City Road in IG. > > If your great-grandfather's birth certificate is from the Sub-district > Ashley then this James Street could be the one, where he was born. > > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clifton.html > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:53:04 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, > 1916 ( was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxluqqh42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:12:23 -0000, John Farnhill > <john.farnhill@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> I believe that Sir John Swaish, (1852-1931), mayor of Bristol in 1913, >> married Sarah Rowland Evans in Q1 1872. The only death I can find for >> Sarah is Q1 1915. > >> My query is: Did John marry for a second time ? > > I can't answer John's query, but I have a little snippet of information > about the Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops concerning the Lord > Mayor, Alderman Swaish, which may be of interest to list members. In 1916, > the Lord Mayor wanted to send something to the men serving in not only > the 4th Gloucesters of which he was Honorary Colonel, but also to men in > other local units and those linked with Bristol. > > After a public fund was raised, dark blue enamel tobacco tins with their > lids decorated with the city arms were obtained and these were each filled > with a pipe, tobacco and cigarette papers. The tobacco tins were much > valued by the men who received them and many men sent them home for safe > keeping. > > Perhaps a list member has one of these tobacco tins among family > memorabilia. > > There was similar fund raising at Christmas, 1917, and Christmas, 1918, > and the money collected went to the Canteen Fund of the units to help with > the Christmas festivities for the troops. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:16:45 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 > (was A Family Conundrum !) > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vnxmx71y42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:41:41 -0000, Bob Sanders > <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> My ancestor George Webley born at Berkley, Somerset in 1787 had a brother >> Ambrose Webley born Berkley 1784. They were children of George Webley & >> Rebecca Biggs. So far so good. > >> Ambrose was gardener at Oldbury Court for 55 years and was involved in >> the founding of Dr Bell's School at Stapleton. > >> I recently discovered on Ancestry that he left a will and probate was >> granted to Ann Elizabeth Shipton, widow, daughter of William Webley of >> Frenchay, gardener, and James Webley of Henbury, gardener, who were joint >> executors. William Webley of Frenchay appears to have been the son of >> Isaac Webley of Winterbourne. However, I can find no link between the >> Berkley >> Webleys and the Winterbourne Webleys. > >> If anyone has any bright ideas or knows anything of either family I >> would be interested to hear. > > Hi Bob, > > There were two marriages at Winterbourne for grooms called Isaac Webley, > which may be of interest if you don't already have them. > > Isaac Webley and Betty Somerell were married, by banns, on 1st. March 1756 > at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. > > Isaac Webley and Sarah May were married, by banns, on 1st. October 1782 at > Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. > > These marriages are included in the CD of Bristol Diocese Marriage > Registers Vol 9, Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812, produced > by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email > to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 > **************************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Josephine Thanks for replying. I did have the information on Isaac Webley marriages as I have the BFHS transcripts. I think Isaac & Sarah were the parents of William whose two children were the executors of Ambrose's will but I cannot see any relationship to Ambrose. Regards & Happy Christmas Bob -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 18 December 2010 23:16 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 Today's Topics: 1. Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could have been so different (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Re: Frank LINDSELL (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) (Josephine Jeremiah) 4. Re: St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) (David Lindsell) 5. Re: Christmas tradition (Josephine Jeremiah) 6. Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas on Bristol map of 1910 (Josephine Jeremiah) 7. The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, 1916 ( was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) (Josephine Jeremiah) 8. WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 (was A Family Conundrum !) (Josephine Jeremiah) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:05:48 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could have been so different To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnwxfymk42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes For anyone interested in Brunel, there's an article in the Evening Post on how Bristol's famous Clifton Suspension Bridge could have been so different: http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Iconic-landmark-different/article-302103 2-detail/article.html -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [B&S] Frank LINDSELL To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnw44xja42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, > Bristol on the 12 March 1863. > Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? Hi David, As far as I know, there wasn't a James Street in Clifton, but Clifton may be the registration district on your great-grandfather's birth certificate. If it was the registration district, then a possible address might be James Street, which was once between Grosvenor Street and Ashley Road in Bristol. Three streets, which were parallel with James Street, are still there. They are William Street, Denbigh Street and Campbell Street. I say possible address because, although I know that James Street, near Grosvenor Road, was built by 1875, I don't know if it was there in 1863. If this is the right James Street, then a church where your great-grandfather could have been baptized could have been St. Barnabas, which was close by, at the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnw44xsw42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, > Bristol on the 12 March 1863. > Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra > information would you expect to find from his baptism? Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on the following web page: http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000 From: "David Lindsell" <trained@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D5E54120951243D3BEBA07A5A939F477@d824a89acdee04> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors were baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >> information would you expect to find from his baptism? > > Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely > church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. > > In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my > families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. > > If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is > the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on > the following web page: > > http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:55:03 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [B&S] Christmas tradition To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxat1zu42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:53:49 -0000, Joni Saunders <josaun@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Every year at this time I can't help but wonder how my ancestors in > England celebrated Christmas and what traditions would have been handed > down to me if they had not immigrated once to Canada and again to the > US... My father's > g-grandmother family came from the Shepton Mallet and Gurney Slade areas > of Somerset. Hi Jo, The custom of Wassailing in Somerset springs to mind. The following web site is about Wassailing, which takes place between Christmas Eve and Twelfth Night. http://www.england-in-particular.info/orchards/o-wass.html More information on Wassailing is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassailing Wassailing events in Somerset for last year, January 2009, are listed here: http://www.england-in-particular.info/new/n-wass.html Scroll down for the Somerset information. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:29:24 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas on Bristol map of 1910 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxe7av942w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church > but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors > were > baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. Hi David, Thanks for your response. You might like to see the position of James Street near Grosvenor Road on a 1910 map of Bristol, which is on the following web page: http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm James Street is near the top of 1G on the map, near the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. The church of St. Barnabas was situated in the triangle, shown on the map, between Ashley Road and City Road in IG. If your great-grandfather's birth certificate is from the Sub-district Ashley then this James Street could be the one, where he was born. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clifton.html Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:53:04 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, 1916 ( was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxluqqh42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:12:23 -0000, John Farnhill <john.farnhill@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I believe that Sir John Swaish, (1852-1931), mayor of Bristol in 1913, > married Sarah Rowland Evans in Q1 1872. The only death I can find for > Sarah is Q1 1915. > My query is: Did John marry for a second time ? I can't answer John's query, but I have a little snippet of information about the Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops concerning the Lord Mayor, Alderman Swaish, which may be of interest to list members. In 1916, the Lord Mayor wanted to send something to the men serving in not only the 4th Gloucesters of which he was Honorary Colonel, but also to men in other local units and those linked with Bristol. After a public fund was raised, dark blue enamel tobacco tins with their lids decorated with the city arms were obtained and these were each filled with a pipe, tobacco and cigarette papers. The tobacco tins were much valued by the men who received them and many men sent them home for safe keeping. Perhaps a list member has one of these tobacco tins among family memorabilia. There was similar fund raising at Christmas, 1917, and Christmas, 1918, and the money collected went to the Canteen Fund of the units to help with the Christmas festivities for the troops. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:16:45 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 (was A Family Conundrum !) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxmx71y42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:41:41 -0000, Bob Sanders <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> wrote: > My ancestor George Webley born at Berkley, Somerset in 1787 had a brother > Ambrose Webley born Berkley 1784. They were children of George Webley & > Rebecca Biggs. So far so good. > Ambrose was gardener at Oldbury Court for 55 years and was involved in > the founding of Dr Bell's School at Stapleton. > I recently discovered on Ancestry that he left a will and probate was > granted to Ann Elizabeth Shipton, widow, daughter of William Webley of > Frenchay, gardener, and James Webley of Henbury, gardener, who were joint > executors. William Webley of Frenchay appears to have been the son of > Isaac Webley of Winterbourne. However, I can find no link between the > Berkley > Webleys and the Winterbourne Webleys. > If anyone has any bright ideas or knows anything of either family I > would be interested to hear. Hi Bob, There were two marriages at Winterbourne for grooms called Isaac Webley, which may be of interest if you don't already have them. Isaac Webley and Betty Somerell were married, by banns, on 1st. March 1756 at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. Isaac Webley and Sarah May were married, by banns, on 1st. October 1782 at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. These marriages are included in the CD of Bristol Diocese Marriage Registers Vol 9, Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812, produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 ****************************************************

If you google, the street is still there - Picton St Bristol UK map - Cheers, Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: [B&S] Picton Street, Bristol Today, I had an off-list message about the parish in which Picton Street, Bristol was situated. My reply was that some of Picton Street was in the parish of St. Barnabas and some in the parish of St. Andrew, Montpelier, in 1911, though I don't know what the situation would have been earlier. In 1911, the odd numbers of Picton Street 1-39 were in the parish of St. Barnabas, while the even numbers 2-58 and the odd numbers 41-49 were in the parish of St. Andrew. Montpelier. A web page for St. Andrew's Church, Montpelier is here: http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/montpel.htm Picton Street is at the top of 1F and 1 G on the following Bristol map of 1910: http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

You might find this interesting ~~ http://napoleonic-literature.com/Articles/28th_Foot/Chapter_1.htm Cheers, Edna - snowy Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:41:41 -0000, Bob Sanders > <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > William Webley of Frenchay appears to have been the son of > Isaac Webley of Winterbourne. However, I can find no link between the > Berkley Webleys and the Winterbourne Webleys. > If anyone has any bright ideas or knows anything of either family I > would be interested to hear. Hi Bob, There are references to WEBLIE, WEBLEY and WEBLEE wills in 'A Calendar of Wills proved in the Consistory Court (City and Deanery of Bristol Division) of the Bishop of Bristol 1572-1792', which was edited by Edward Alexander Fry and published in 1897. John WEBLIE, 1639 John WEBLEY, 1756 Isaac WEBLEE, 1774 Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:41:41 -0000, Bob Sanders <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> wrote: > My ancestor George Webley born at Berkley, Somerset in 1787 had a brother > Ambrose Webley born Berkley 1784. They were children of George Webley & > Rebecca Biggs. So far so good. > Ambrose was gardener at Oldbury Court for 55 years and was involved in > the founding of Dr Bell's School at Stapleton. > I recently discovered on Ancestry that he left a will and probate was > granted to Ann Elizabeth Shipton, widow, daughter of William Webley of > Frenchay, gardener, and James Webley of Henbury, gardener, who were joint > executors. William Webley of Frenchay appears to have been the son of > Isaac Webley of Winterbourne. However, I can find no link between the > Berkley > Webleys and the Winterbourne Webleys. > If anyone has any bright ideas or knows anything of either family I > would be interested to hear. Hi Bob, There were two marriages at Winterbourne for grooms called Isaac Webley, which may be of interest if you don't already have them. Isaac Webley and Betty Somerell were married, by banns, on 1st. March 1756 at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. Isaac Webley and Sarah May were married, by banns, on 1st. October 1782 at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. These marriages are included in the CD of Bristol Diocese Marriage Registers Vol 9, Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812, produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:12:23 -0000, John Farnhill <john.farnhill@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I believe that Sir John Swaish, (1852-1931), mayor of Bristol in 1913, > married Sarah Rowland Evans in Q1 1872. The only death I can find for > Sarah is Q1 1915. > My query is: Did John marry for a second time ? I can't answer John's query, but I have a little snippet of information about the Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops concerning the Lord Mayor, Alderman Swaish, which may be of interest to list members. In 1916, the Lord Mayor wanted to send something to the men serving in not only the 4th Gloucesters of which he was Honorary Colonel, but also to men in other local units and those linked with Bristol. After a public fund was raised, dark blue enamel tobacco tins with their lids decorated with the city arms were obtained and these were each filled with a pipe, tobacco and cigarette papers. The tobacco tins were much valued by the men who received them and many men sent them home for safe keeping. Perhaps a list member has one of these tobacco tins among family memorabilia. There was similar fund raising at Christmas, 1917, and Christmas, 1918, and the money collected went to the Canteen Fund of the units to help with the Christmas festivities for the troops. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church > but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors > were > baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. Hi David, Thanks for your response. You might like to see the position of James Street near Grosvenor Road on a 1910 map of Bristol, which is on the following web page: http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm James Street is near the top of 1G on the map, near the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. The church of St. Barnabas was situated in the triangle, shown on the map, between Ashley Road and City Road in IG. If your great-grandfather's birth certificate is from the Sub-district Ashley then this James Street could be the one, where he was born. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clifton.html Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:53:49 -0000, Joni Saunders <josaun@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Every year at this time I can't help but wonder how my ancestors in > England celebrated Christmas and what traditions would have been handed > down to me if they had not immigrated once to Canada and again to the > US... My father's > g-grandmother family came from the Shepton Mallet and Gurney Slade areas > of Somerset. Hi Jo, The custom of Wassailing in Somerset springs to mind. The following web site is about Wassailing, which takes place between Christmas Eve and Twelfth Night. http://www.england-in-particular.info/orchards/o-wass.html More information on Wassailing is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassailing Wassailing events in Somerset for last year, January 2009, are listed here: http://www.england-in-particular.info/new/n-wass.html Scroll down for the Somerset information. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors were baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >> information would you expect to find from his baptism? > > Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely > church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. > > In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my > families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. > > If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is > the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on > the following web page: > > http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, > Bristol on the 12 March 1863. > Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? Hi David, As far as I know, there wasn't a James Street in Clifton, but Clifton may be the registration district on your great-grandfather's birth certificate. If it was the registration district, then a possible address might be James Street, which was once between Grosvenor Street and Ashley Road in Bristol. Three streets, which were parallel with James Street, are still there. They are William Street, Denbigh Street and Campbell Street. I say possible address because, although I know that James Street, near Grosvenor Road, was built by 1875, I don't know if it was there in 1863. If this is the right James Street, then a church where your great-grandfather could have been baptized could have been St. Barnabas, which was close by, at the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, > Bristol on the 12 March 1863. > Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra > information would you expect to find from his baptism? Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on the following web page: http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

For anyone interested in Brunel, there's an article in the Evening Post on how Bristol's famous Clifton Suspension Bridge could have been so different: http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Iconic-landmark-different/article-3021032-detail/article.html -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Postings on several other lists over the years have also reported that Christmas was the only day the church did not charge for marriage and christenings. Bob On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:11 AM, A. Day <ann.day@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > One thing family historians may have noticed is that some of their > ancestors got > > married on Christmas Day - I have several examples - since it was the > only day of the > > year they had off. > Some friends of ours celebrate their golden wedding on Boxing day > Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

While looking for my great-grandfather George Knight (1842-1924) I came upon this entry: 1891 Census #6095972 for Portsea RG12/862 fiche No. 4 George KNIGHT is listed on "Duchess of Edinburgh #87432 Portsmouth 149 passengers - local passenger traffic Portsmouth 6/4/91 off Harbour Pier Name of Chief Officer or Master: Obadiah Orange Lemon I kid you not! Edna - Ottawa