Its not a good day to be called Chris Jefferies!! I am not aware of anyone else of that name on my tree so if there is a family connection it is a very distant one as Jefferies is quite a common surname around Bristol. Yesterday on the TV news when they announced that they had an interview with the murdered girl's landlord called Chris Jefferies I had a very strange feeling as I waited to see what he looked like. It was a very odd interview and when they first announced this morning that someone had been arrested I knew immediately it was him. Perhaps I should try and trace his family back to see if there is a connection as its always good to have a connection to someone famous or infamous. Some years ago I Googled my name and most hits were for someone in Bristol but I don't think it was him as he I believe is a lecturer and the person I found like me worked in IT. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:58:05 -0000, <w.a.t.d@talktalk.net> wrote: > I am looking for the baptism of William Gage born in Long Ashton in 1774. > Also his marriage in the same area , i would think this would be around > 1800 and his son John was born in Wick St Lawrence in 1805. Hi Sandra, I see that you sent a similar message to the Eng-Somerset list, but you gave the place of William Gage's birth as Kingston Seymour. If you search at FreeReg http://freereg.rootsweb.com/ you'll find the baptism of William GAGE, son of Jn and Mary, on 14th. January 1779 at Yatton. Abode was Kingston Seamore (sic). Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I was looking at his last blog only the other night, and remembering Hugh. A Man with a vast knowledge. Jenny K. -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:59 AM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] Hugh Watkins died a year ago today Today is the first anniversary of the death of B & S list member, Hugh Watkins. He was taken ill on 25th. December 2009. His last post on his blog that evening was that he was going to dial 999. http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ Hugh's online obituary has had 3,499 visitors. http://www.bmdsonline.co.uk/3365719 I have been thinking of him over the past week and I am sure that others will have been doing so, too. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Today is the first anniversary of the death of B & S list member, Hugh Watkins. He was taken ill on 25th. December 2009. His last post on his blog that evening was that he was going to dial 999. http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ Hugh's online obituary has had 3,499 visitors. http://www.bmdsonline.co.uk/3365719 I have been thinking of him over the past week and I am sure that others will have been doing so, too. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Monday, I asked if someone with access to the Gloucestershire Family History Society baptisms 1813-1837 could have a look for the baptism of John WALL, son of Robert and Emma, born. c.1835 and also for the baptisms of an older sister, Emma. I had an off-list reply, which gave the date of Emma's baptism and the place as Stroud. I asked the same question on the Gloucester List, yesterday, and have had confirmation that the baptism of Emma WALL, daughter of Robert and Emma, took place on 1st. April 1827 at St. Lawrence's Church, Stroud. Additional information given was that the abode was Union Buildings and father's occupation was wine merchant. This is the right family as Emma's father, Robert WALL, was recorded as a spirit merchant at her marriage to Martin POTTER on 8th. December 1856 at the church of St. James, Mangotsfield, GLS. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Josephine and other readers When you refer to Stokes Croft, like below (thank you for one of the early maps that this group have provided on Bristol), does it just refer to the street of Strokes Croft or does it mean the area around this street. I just received back the death entry for Dr. James Rees, and it looks like he died at 15 Stoke Croft 14 Jan 1840, with Diana Snow of All Saints Street as the informant. I am yet to find any information on her in the family tree, so she may have been an assistant at his surgery. [This James Rees married Elizabeth Pocock, daughter of George Pocock of Prospect Academy, St. Michaels, Bristol]. What also interest me is yet another address nearby in 1841 (Census), that of John Staite of Stokes Croft [Pigot's Directory 1830 76 Stokes Croft] Some 22 years later (8 Jul 1863) the son of the above Dr. James Rees - Rev. William Lee Rees married the grand daughter of the above John Staite (Hannah Elizabeth Staite}, not in Bristol, but rather Melbourne, Australia. Did they know each other as very young children in Stokes Croft? I may not contribute much to your site, but I find correspondence most interesting. One day, someone is going to drop a hint for me, that will account for 3 Rees children from Haverfordwest, Wales marrying three of George Pocock's children. Like did the boys board at George Pocock's school or did they have a wealthy uncle or auntie living in the Stokes Croft area? Or was the Miss Rees School for Girls in the nearby street, a sister of their father David Rees of Haverfordwest? Keith -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:33 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] St. Andrew's, Montpelier, Baptist College,Almshouse & Charity School, Stokes Croft, Bristol, c.1853 Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853. Continuing our route towards STOKE'S CROFT, we leave on our right another new church, dedicated to ST. ANDREW, in Montpellier, a populous district, built and opened for public worship in 1845. This district is taken out of Horfield and the parish of St. Paul. In Stoke's Croft, the BAPTIST COLLEGE attracts our attention. It was established in 1770, for the education of pious young men for the exercise of the Christian ministry in the Baptist denomination. The principal is the minister of the Broadmead Meeting, as elsewhere stated. The library of this academy is extensive, and contains every production of importance upon subjects of theology. In the museum are many objects of great curiosity, particularly a collection of Hindoo idols, received at different times from their missionaries in India. Respectable applications to view this establishment will not be refused. There is a UNITARIAN ALMSHOUSE and CHARITY SCHOOL, established in the Croft in 1726. The Almshouse contains fifteen women and one man, to whom various sums have been left by different individuals. The School number forty boys, who are clothed and taught reading, writing, and arithmetic. The building forms three sides of a quadrangle, the centre is the School, and the side wings form the Almshouse. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ello , am new to this list and would welcome any ideas or help with the tracing of my amily. am looking for the baptism of William Gage born in Long Ashton in 1781. lso his marriage in the same area , i would think this would be around 1800 and is son John was born in Wick St Lawrence in 1805. any Thanks andra ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Here's a little further information on the Kennet & Avon Canal, which celebrates its 200th anniversary, today: Extract from The Bristol Avon: A Pictorial History (2005) This waterway was constructed in three sections. The Kennet Navigation, from Reading to Newbury, was built between 1718 and 1723, while work on the Bristol Avon Navigation, between Bath and Bristol, took place between 1724 and 1727. The middle section of the waterway, from Newbury to Bath, was completed in 1810, thus opening up a route from London to Bristol by water. However, after the arrival of the railways, trade on the canal declined. By the mid-20th century, the canal was in such a poor state of repair that it eventually closed as a through route. Restoration of the waterway took place during the second half of the 20th century. The reopening of the route, from Reading to Bristol, was commemorated on 8 August 1990 when Queen Elizabeth II reopened the flight of 29 locks at Caen Hill, Devizes. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

The Kennet & Avon Canal, linking Bristol with the River Thames at Reading, celebrates its 200th. anniversary, today: Evening Post article http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Historic-canal-200-years-old/article-3043029-detail/article.html BBC News Wiltshire http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12083685 -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hello , I am new to this list and would welcome any ideas or help with the tracing of my family. I am looking for the baptism of Issac Sayer born around1773 in Worle/Weston Super Mare area . Many Thanks Sandra

Hello , I am new to this list and would welcome any ideas or help with the tracing of my family. I am looking for the baptism of William Gage born in Long Ashton in 1774. Also his marriage in the same area , i would think this would be around 1800 and his son John was born in Wick St Lawrence in 1805. Many Thanks Sandra

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 08:40:52 -0000, Keith Rees <krees@ncable.net.au> wrote: > When you refer to Stokes Croft, like below (thank you for one of the > early maps that this group have provided on Bristol), does it just refer > to the street of Strokes Croft or does it mean the area around this > street. Hi Keith, The c.1853 reference to Stokes Croft was to the street rather than to the area around the street. > Some 22 years later (8 Jul 1863) the son of the above Dr. James Rees - > Rev. William Lee Rees married the grand daughter of the above John > Staite (Hannah Elizabeth Staite}, not in Bristol, but rather Melbourne, > Australia. > Did they know each other as very young children in Stokes Croft? They may have done, but it's likely that people who went to Australia from Bristol socialized with others from their home city after arriving in Australia. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 04:11:51 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Esquire usually meant a Gentleman or man of means. > Words' meanings do change over time. > Guy, for instance, meaning a rogue now many in N. America use it for men > and women. I saw an interviewer thank a group of ladies by saying > "thanks guys". When I was young, my mother used to tell me that I looked like a guy if I was untidy. She meant that I looked like the figure of a Guy Fawkes, which children used to make for Bonfire Night. These figures were quite a common site on the streets around Bristol in the days leading up to 5th. November as children begged for 'A Penny for the Guy'. In South Wales, if Ian looked untidy, when he was young, he was told that he looked like a rodney. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853. Continuing our route towards STOKE'S CROFT, we leave on our right another new church, dedicated to ST. ANDREW, in Montpellier, a populous district, built and opened for public worship in 1845. This district is taken out of Horfield and the parish of St. Paul. In Stoke's Croft, the BAPTIST COLLEGE attracts our attention. It was established in 1770, for the education of pious young men for the exercise of the Christian ministry in the Baptist denomination. The principal is the minister of the Broadmead Meeting, as elsewhere stated. The library of this academy is extensive, and contains every production of importance upon subjects of theology. In the museum are many objects of great curiosity, particularly a collection of Hindoo idols, received at different times from their missionaries in India. Respectable applications to view this establishment will not be refused. There is a UNITARIAN ALMSHOUSE and CHARITY SCHOOL, established in the Croft in 1726. The Almshouse contains fifteen women and one man, to whom various sums have been left by different individuals. The School number forty boys, who are clothed and taught reading, writing, and arithmetic. The building forms three sides of a quadrangle, the centre is the School, and the side wings form the Almshouse. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853. >From St. Paul's we walk to Baptist Mills, to view Mr. MAULE'S extensive NURSERY GROUNDS, in the rear of which is ST. SIMON'S CHURCH, opened in 1846, in the midst of a dense mass of poor people. Near this church is the WESLEYAN CHAPEL, opened in 1837. It is built on the spot where the Rev. J. Wesley preached his first sermon in the open air; the stone on which he then stood has been used as the foundation of the present building. A short walk will bring us to the FEMALE ORPHAN ASYLUM, at Hook's Mills, Ashley Hill, with its EPISCOPAL CHAPEL. This very interesting establishment, formed in 1795, is supported by voluntary contributions, and contains upwards of thirty eight fatherless and motherless female children, who are clothed, boarded, educated, and instructed in every kind of domestic employment to fit them for servants in future life. Returning to Bristol, through Ashley Road, we pass a new church, dedicated to ST. BARNABAS, which was built by the Diocesan Church Building Association, aided by private subscriptions, and opened for divine worship in 1843. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853. >From the Barton, turning to the left, we enter the CHURCHYARD AND CHURCH OF ST. JAMES, which was built and consecrated in 1130, made parochial and the tower added in 1374. It has undergone most extensive alterations from time to time, and more especially so within the last few years, during which the high pews and side galleries have been removed, and the body of the church covered with low seats of an ecclesiastical character. Returning to the Barton, and moving onwards to the right, we notice the avenue leading to ST. JAMES'S SQUARE,- a quiet and retired situation,- with its pitched area, and an obelisk erected in the centre. Entering North Street from thence, and before we come to the FULL MOON FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL HOTEL, turn into Cumberland Street, and enter BRUNSWICK SQUARE, which has a large area covered with grass, surrounded by high elm trees, and enclosed with rails. In this Square is an INDEPENDENT CHAPEL, opened for public worship in 1835. It has a spacious burying ground round the Chapel, which is protected with iron rails. Adjoining to it is the UNITARIAN CEMETERY, with a lodge entrance, occupied by the sexton of the chapel. Proceeding onwards will bring us to PORTLAND SQUARE, so named in honour of the DUKE OF PORTLAND, who when it was formed was High Steward of Bristol. This Square is built entirely of freestone; the corners and centres of the fronts of the northern and southern sides are elevated by attic stories, as well as the corner houses of the other sides. In the centre of the eastern side stands the parish CHURCH, with a lofty tower, dedicated to ST. PAUL, which was opened for Divine worship in 1794. It was taken out of the parish of St. James, for the accommodation of the inhabitants of this district. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I mentioned earlier the Wills of Hattill and Elizabeth JENNINGS. I thought it might be useful to list the names in these wills - maybe someone else is researching these names. Many but not all are relations. 1) Hattill JENNINGS (died 1st Dec 1775):- Elizabeth JENNINGS, wife Hatwill HEANS of Stratton Andely, Oxfordshire, yeoman (nephew) Mary FISHER, dau of Abraham FISHER, wife's neice Edmund FISHER, son of Abraham FISHER, wife's nephew John RUSSELL, half-brother Mary, wife of James ELLIS of St Philip & St Jacob (wife's neice) Mary, wife of John MINTY of Clevedon, gardener (wife's neice) William JAGG or TAGG of Hannams Mills (wife's brother) Hattwill Jennings MILLARD son of William MILLARD Elizabeth JAGG, Sarah JAGG, Hester JAGG Elizabeth HORWOOD, widow of William Ann HAWEY (or HOWEY), wife of William and daughter of William JAGG Elizabeth FISHER, dau of Abraham FISHER 2) Elizabeth JENNINGS nee JAGG (died 6 May 1798):- Mary, wife of John MINTY of Stapleton, gentleman Henry BENGOUGH, esq, tenant occupying one of Elizabeth's properties in Stapleton Edmund FISHER of Lacock, Wiltshire, miller Henry CRESWICK of Hanham, esq, who owed money on a mortgage to Elizabeth Mary MINTY, Elizabeth MINTY, Hannah MINTY, daughters of John and Mary MINTY, all minors Henry HOBBS of Stapleton, miller John HOBBS, Henry Hobbs the younger, William HOBBS, James HOBBS and Joseph HOBBS, children of Henry HOBBS, all minors William DANIEL of Lyme, Dorset, esq, who owed money on a mortgage to Elizabeth John Wyatt CATER of Stapleton, gentleman John Wyatt CATER the younger, Elizabeth CATER and Mary CATER, children of John Wyatt CATER, all minors James HUGHES of Bristol, gentleman, no relationship stated, possibly a business contact Thomas NELMES, gentleman, no relationship stated, possibly a business contact Abraham JAMES son of Luke JAMES, late of the hundred of Barton Regis, distiller, a minor Luke JAMES, Ann James, children of Luke JAMES, minors Richard HARVEY of Bristol, hooper, son of William HARVEY late of Congleton, county of Cheshire, no relationship stated William HARVEY, another son of William HARVEY deceased, a minor Sarah HARVEY, Edward HARVEY, Ann HARVEY, Samuel Tagg HARVEY, children of the said William HARVEY, all minors Mary MILLARD, widow of Hattill Jennings MILLARD Sarah RABBITS wife of John RABBITS of Frome Selwood, Somerset, carrier, late Sarah TAGG spinster John RUSSELL of Bedminster, miller Sarah ROBBINS of Bristol, widow, daughter of Mary MILLARD deceased Mary LUTON, daughter of the said Sarah ROBBINS Mary MANNING, wife of ____(blank space) MANNING of Bristol, stone cutter Marion

Esquire usually meant a Gentleman or man of means. Words' meanings do change over time. Guy, for instance, meaning a rogue now many in N. America use it for men and women. I saw an interviewer thank a group of ladies by saying "thanks guys". Strange really... Edna - Ottawa

----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Purnell" <rnpurnell@yahoo.com> To: <BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:08 PM Subject: [B&S] "ESQUIRE" I'm amused by the usage that has developed in the U.S. in recent years. Lawyers have frequently used "Esq." as a suffix to let people know that they are members of the bar. But, the tradition certainly applied only to males. Now, the lady lawyers sometimes use it. Seems rather silly. (Judge) Roland Purnell Ventura, California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:35:01 -0000, Marion <lowe.marion@gmail.com> wrote: > Aquilla's mother was one of at least 4 children, although I only have > names for Elizabeth JAGG (who married Hattill JENNINGS, a mealman of > Stapleton on 27th April 1740 at Stapleton, and William JAGG, who lived > at Hannams Mills in 1776, and had several children. The fourth child, a > daughter, married ? STIGE. These details are pieced together from > family Wills. Hi Marion, Thank you for your message with all those interesting names. Hattill JENNINGS rang a bell in my mind. Looking in the B & S archives I found a March 2006 message I'd written to Dianne Dixon about a memorial to HATTIL JENENS (sic) and his relict, Elizabeth, on a flat stone in the nave of Stapleton Church. > For example Hattill JENNINGS (bur 1st Dec 1775) and his wife Elizabeth > JENNINGS nee JAGG died 6 May 1798 left very helpful Wills which mention > many relatives including the HOBBS family: > If your correspondent would like more details of these Wills I can send > them privately. How exciting! I would think that he would be very pleased to see the information from the wills. Hopefully, he will be reading these messages, by now, and will make contact with you. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com