Thanks so much for your help. Have a great 2011 Helen NZ ________________________________ From: Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 1 January, 2011 1:38:14 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Richard.GALER/GILLER.GELLER On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:24:15 -0000, Helen Mcnamara <hennymac1941@yahoo.co.nz> wrote: > Thanks Josephine, What about a death? Hi Helen, I don't have any resources about burials in the Bath area. I have looked in the B & A FHS CD They Lived in Bristol by Jane Baker Bristol Burials 1813 to 1837, but found no entry for a Richard GILLER or a Richard with any variation of this surname. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Josephine, What about a death? Helen ________________________________ From: Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 1 January, 2011 1:18:09 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Richard.GALER/GILLER.GELLER On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:43:49 -0000, Helen Mcnamara <hennymac1941@yahoo.co.nz> wrote: > Hi, For many years I have been searching unsuccessfully for ANY > information on my Richard G....He was a twin of Henry. A son of William > & Rebecca(nee COTTLE) He was bapt in the Holloway chapel, Widcombe.I > have just found his bapt details on UK Parish Register as Richard > GELLER.The name was really GILLER Gee was I excited but now I need to > find what happened to him.Did he marry? Hi Helen, I have looked in the B & A FHS Marriage Index Vol 10 North Somerset Parishes 1754-1837 and in the Marriage Index Vol 8 Diocese of Bristol 1813-1837, but found no entry for a Richard GILLER or a Richard with any variation of this surname. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, For many years I have been searching unsuccessfully for ANY information on my Richard G....He was a twin of Henry. A son of William & Rebecca(nee COTTLE) He was bapt in the Holloway chapel, Widcombe.I have just found his bapt details on UK Parish Register as Richard GELLER.The name was really GILLER Gee was I excited but now I need to find what happened to him.Did he marry? Where / when did he die. Yes he died of that I am certain.Anyone got any clues where I can search from New Zealand? Happy 2011 to all Helen McNamara

Hi, For many years I have been searching unsuccessfully for ANY information on my Richard G....He was a twin of Henry. A son of William & Rebecca(nee COTTLE) He was bapt in the Holloway chapel, Widcombe.I have just found his bapt details on UK Parish Register as Richard GELLER.The name was really GILLER Gee was I excited but now I need to find what happened to him.Did he marry? Where / when did he die. Yes he died of that I am certain.Anyone got any clues where I can search from New Zealand? Happy 2011 to all Helen McNamara

I would like to take this opportunity to wish all our listers and their families here on the B & S website A Very Happy, Healthy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year 2011 Please click on the enclosed weblink : http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=2675008035036&source=jl999 ManyThanks to all who have kindly helped and contributed on this site over the last 12 months and of course this is a time to remember all those listers who have sadly passed away. Best Wishes Keith Cranney

Hi Listers, Surely Judge Jefferies participated in a Court Circuit? It is well known that he tried at Ilminster and was responsible for the hangings in Kenn. 'Kenn is notable as the site of the last public hangings in the UK to be carried out at the scene of the crime. Three arsonists (William Wall, John Rowley and Richard Clarke) who had set fire to a local farmer's hay were hanged, another three being transported to Tasmania.[3]' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenn,_Somerset Chard Tourist Info Cached site: http://www.touruk.co.uk/somerset/som_chard.htm Chard, small town in a farming area on the border with Devon. After the failed Monmouth rebellion in 1685 Judge Jefferies held his Bloody Assize here in the former manor house. The building is still here, near the Elizabethan Guildhall, and you can visit the courtroom. The church and the Choughs Inn are worth a visit, probably in that order. Kind regards, Jill http://www.kingston-bagpuize.com - an online history of Kingston Bagpuize & area.

Allegedly Judge Jefferies used to lodge in a public house here in Worle, The Valiant Soldier, now a home, when he held courts in Banwell. Jenny Kingsbury. -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Perkins Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:38 PM To: Bristol_and_ Somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Jefferies Brad, you wrote > Worryingly (having just re-read the page), Wikipedia says the trials > started on the 25th Aug (para. 1) and later in the article, the 26th Aug > (para. 3). Thanks for pointing that out. Jean was right when she admitted > Well, I have started something! We are all getting quite gruesome - I've been reading a book (a translation from Danish) about Marie Tussaud which includes her dealings with the severed heads of her friends and acquaintances at the time of the French Revolution. Another grisly theme. Maggie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brad, you wrote > Worryingly (having just re-read the page), Wikipedia says the trials > started on the 25th Aug (para. 1) and later in the article, the 26th Aug > (para. 3). Thanks for pointing that out. Jean was right when she admitted > Well, I have started something! We are all getting quite gruesome - I've been reading a book (a translation from Danish) about Marie Tussaud which includes her dealings with the severed heads of her friends and acquaintances at the time of the French Revolution. Another grisly theme. Maggie.

I thought that Judge Jeffreys came from Shropshire but it seems that he was born near Wrexham. Someone told me that he visited Siston Court on his travels. Some years ago I estimated that pre 1800 about 1/3 of the graves in Siston churchyard were JEFFERIS and the early parish registers certainly have more of the surname than any other parish. I have always doubted any connection between the Judge and the surname in the Bristol area. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

> > > Well, I have started something! > > I assure you, from the age of about 10, I was marched on more than one occasion into the town square and shown the very window from which his poor victims were led - rather like a kangaroo court in modern times - they were condemned and taken out at once to be despatched. > > The square in Winchester is misnamed. At one time pehaps it was, but a chunk of other building now blocks the way so the square is a road with wide bits at the end. The scaffold/gallows are is in the narrow bit. > Dame Alice Lyle's name is well known even now, 3 1/4 centuries later > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Assizes > > As far as I know the Wiki entry is correct.The Assizes were, and as far as I know still are, travelling courts - and again, as a child, taken along by a parent, would watch the parade on Assize Sunday (held quarterly, I only went sometimes!) which preceded the opening weeks of trials. > > Several judges in red gowns paraded to the Cathedral, with others, and Cathedral personnel in black and liturgical colours. > > This I presume is the origin of circuits, because after (and before) Winchester they were in other cities - hence the Salisbury, Dorchester, Taunton and Wells as listed in Wiki - that sounds like 1 week in each place doesn't it at the time? > > http://www.minehead-online.co.uk/judge.htm > http://www.somersetgateway.com/aboutsom/somermag/june2000/jeffries.htm > The following is an extract from the second, above. > > The Assizes started at Winchester on 25th August 1685. There were five judges - Baron Montagu, Baron Wright, Justice Wythens, Justice Levinz and Sir Henry Polexfen, led by Lord Chief Justice Jeffreys. It was here that the trial of Dame Alice Lyle took place. From Winchester they proceeded to Dorchester and on to Taunton before finishing up at Wells on 23rd September. More than 1400 prisoners were dealt with and although most were sentenced to death about 300 only were hanged or hanged, drawn and quartered. Some 600 were transported to the West Indies where they were worth more alive than dead as a source of cheap labour. Others were imprisoned to await further trial > > > > Anyway, this just followed my remark - probably in dubious taste - about our poor co-lister Chris! > > > > > > Jean > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:32:00 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [B&S] Jefferies > > > > On 30 Dec 2010 at 17:10, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:52:59 -0000 > > > "Roy Stockdill" wrote: > > > > > > Hello Roy, > > > > > > > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the > > > > Bloody Assizes were held. > > > > > > Wikipedia reckons the trials started in Winchester then moved to > > > Salisbury, Dorchester and on to Taunton. > > > > > > See > > > > Well, even a self-appointed cleverclogs like me can get it wrong sometimes! > > > > I concede you are all correct, but Judge Jeffreys to me has always been most closely > > associated with Dorchester. I don't see anything that says he, personally, actually sat > > at Winchester. As Lord Chief Justice, he certainly presided over the whole affair, but > > there were five other judges beneath him. > > > > -- > > Roy Stockdill > > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > > and that is not being talked about." > > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:32:00 -0000 "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: Hello Roy, > Well, even a self-appointed cleverclogs like me can get it wrong > sometimes! :-) > I concede you are all correct, but Judge Jeffreys to me has always > been most closely associated with Dorchester. I don't see anything Same for me. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" When I say ugly, I don't mean rough looking, I mean hideous Ugly - The Stranglers

On 30 Dec 2010 at 17:10, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:52:59 -0000 > "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Hello Roy, > > > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the > > Bloody Assizes were held. > > Wikipedia reckons the trials started in Winchester then moved to > Salisbury, Dorchester and on to Taunton. > > See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Assizes> Well, even a self-appointed cleverclogs like me can get it wrong sometimes! I concede you are all correct, but Judge Jeffreys to me has always been most closely associated with Dorchester. I don't see anything that says he, personally, actually sat at Winchester. As Lord Chief Justice, he certainly presided over the whole affair, but there were five other judges beneath him. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:16:25 -0000 "Maggie Perkins" <maggieperkins@puddingstone.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Hello Maggie, > The Bloody Assizes started on the 25th August, 1685 at Winchester. > Even Wikipedia confirms this! Worryingly (having just re-read the page), Wikipedia says the trials started on the 25th Aug (para. 1) and later in the article, the 26th Aug (para. 3). <http://www1.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ASH/Bloodyassize.htm> confirms that the trials began in Winchester. No date is given, except to say Autumn. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Never much liked playing there anyway Banned From The Roxy - Crass

Roy Stockdill wrote > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the Bloody > Assizes > were held. The Bloody Assizes started on the 25th August, 1685 at Winchester. Even Wikipedia confirms this! Maggie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: "B & S rootsweb" <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Jefferies > > On 30 Dec 2010 at 15:49, Jean Wood wrote: > >> >> Well, perhaps you are also related to the famous Judge --- I grew up >> in Winchester and the Bloody Assizes of 1685 were notorious and we >> were taught about them from very early days. There is even a shop >> which boasts that a platform was built out from their first floor >> level to create the scaffold. > > > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the Bloody > Assizes > were held. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3347 - Release Date: 12/29/10 19:34:00

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:52:59 -0000 "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: Hello Roy, > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the Bloody > Assizes were held. Wikipedia reckons the trials started in Winchester then moved to Salisbury, Dorchester and on to Taunton. See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Assizes> -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999

I think you'll find the Bloody Assizes were held at a number of locations in the southwest, Roy, including Dorchester, Taunton and Wells. The Taunton Assizes was held at Taunton Castle, where I once worked, coincidentally! Cheers, Sue From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Stockdill Sent: 30 December 2010 16:53 To: B & S rootsweb Subject: Re: [B&S] Jefferies On 30 Dec 2010 at 15:49, Jean Wood wrote: > > Well, perhaps you are also related to the famous Judge --- I grew up > in Winchester and the Bloody Assizes of 1685 were notorious and we > were taught about them from very early days. There is even a shop > which boasts that a platform was built out from their first floor > level to create the scaffold. > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the Bloody Assizes were held. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html

On 30 Dec 2010 at 15:49, Jean Wood wrote: > > Well, perhaps you are also related to the famous Judge --- I grew up > in Winchester and the Bloody Assizes of 1685 were notorious and we > were taught about them from very early days. There is even a shop > which boasts that a platform was built out from their first floor > level to create the scaffold. > Surely you mean Dorchester, don't you, Jean? That was where the Bloody Assizes were held. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Well, perhaps you are also related to the famous Judge --- I grew up in Winchester and the Bloody Assizes of 1685 were notorious and we were taught about them from very early days. There is even a shop which boasts that a platform was built out from their first floor level to create the scaffold. Happy New Year! Jean > From: chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:45:35 +0000 > Subject: [B&S] Jefferies > > Its not a good day to be called Chris Jefferies!! > > > > I am not aware of anyone else of that name on my tree so if there is a > family connection it is a very distant one as Jefferies is quite a common > surname around Bristol. Yesterday on the TV news when they announced that > they had an interview with the murdered girl's landlord called Chris > Jefferies I had a very strange feeling as I waited to see what he looked > like. It was a very odd interview and when they first announced this morning > that someone had been arrested I knew immediately it was him. > > > > Perhaps I should try and trace his family back to see if there is a > connection as its always good to have a connection to someone famous or > infamous. Some years ago I Googled my name and most hits were for someone in > Bristol but I don't think it was him as he I believe is a lecturer and the > person I found like me worked in IT. > > > > Chris Jefferies > > Cheltenham > > Glos > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a small Christmas offering to all, I have posted transcriptions of the burial records of Nailsea Christ Church, 1847-1910, on my website at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ian.sage These records are not available at Taunton, but are made available through the kindness of the church wardens. Marriage records will follow - eventually. Best wishes, Ian Sage

Bristol as our ancestors saw it, c.1853. >From Stoke's Croft we enter KING SQUARE AVENUE, which leads us to the SQUARE ; the houses in which are uniform and well built, with an area covered with grass, and intersected with a gravel walk in the centre and round the borders, which is planted with young shrubs, and railed in. Going on in a straight line from the bottom of the Square into Dighton Street, we pass the ROMAN CATHOLIC CONVENT of the SISTERS OF MERCY and SCHOOLS, to the ROYAL BRISTOL INFIRMARY, in Marlborough Street, founded in 1735. The annual expenditure in this noble Institution is upwards of £7,000, which is supported by annual subscriptions and donations. It has accommodation for upwards of two hundred in-patients, and the average number received in twelve months is upwards of 2,000, whilst about 8,000 out-patients receive assistance in advice and medicines gratuitously. Still continuing our walk, we pass by the opposite corner of Maudlin Lane, where is the FEMALE PENITENTIARY, which was opened in 1800, for the purpose of receiving those unhappy females who have departed from the paths of virtue, and wish to retrieve their lost character. They are employed in needlework, &c. A little further on to the right is the GUARDIAN HOUSE, opened in 1833, for the benefit of destitute females, of good character, from the age of twelve to eighteen, who are instructed and qualified for servants, till situations can be obtained for them. This establishment is conducted by a committee of ladies. Opposite is the MORAVIAN CHAPEL, and a little beyond it, the WELSH BAPTIST CHAPEL. The former of these is a branch of the oldest Protestant Episcopal Church in existence, and their missionaries are to be found in Lapland, Greenland, Labrador, and other climes where no other missionaries have penetrated. In the latter chapel the service is performed in the WELSH language. -- Josephine Jeremiah http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com