Hi Josephine Thomas Gully in 1841 is living Wills Bridge Bitton he is shown as an Ag Lab in the same household are a Sarah shown as 25 a Mary shown as of Independent (means) also aged 25 and an Mary aged 4 an Elizabeth aged 3 and an Eliza aged 6mths (Elizabeth and Eliza are on next page). On the opposite page to Thomas are Sam Gulley a Lime burner shown as aged 50 also an Ann also shown as age 50. In the same household are an Elisabeth Williams shown as aged 80 Independent (means) there is also a Sophi (sic) Gully shown as aged 40 and a Mary aged 6 Reference for Thomas HO107/361/18 Folio 35 Page 22. If you would like a copy of the image let me know Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:53 AM Subject: [B&S] GULLY Thomas, Oldland/Hanham/Bitton ?1841 census > At the beginning of the week, I was just about to start a reading break > from family history when I received a message from someone researching > my > Bitton GULLY family, who had picked up my name from the Bitton Families > web site: http://www.bittonfamilies.com/ > > Sifting through my GULLY notes, which were made a number of years ago, I > discovered that there are a number of gaps in my research for this family. > > More resources have been produced since I first started researching the > GULLY family, so I am in the process of filling some of these gaps, but > would be grateful for help with other gaps. > > I've discovered that my 3x great-grandfather, Joseph GULLY, had an elder > brother, Thomas. > > Thomas GULLY, the son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 12th. August 1810 > at Hanham, GLS. > > I think I've found I've found him and his wife, Susanna, in the 1851 > Bitton census in the household of blacksmith William CASWELL -- Thomas > GULLEY (sic), ag lab, 41, and Susanna, 39, both born in Hanham. > > I can't find a marriage for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS Marriage > Index 1813-1837 or in the Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers > Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901. > > The thought has crossed my mind that Susanna may have been a second wife. > > I can find no children for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS resources. > > So, Thomas GULLY is rather a mystery at the moment > > Could someone give me an 1841 census reference for Thomas GULLY/GULLEY and > his wife in the Oldland/Bitton/Hanham area, please? > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Josephine, Do you have the Vol 8 Marriages CD (N Somerset)? Watching grandkids right now, but can look later. Also, FreeREG might be worth exploring to see if any events show up in neighboring Somerset areas. Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:53 AM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] GULLY Thomas, Oldland/Hanham/Bitton ?1841 census At the beginning of the week, I was just about to start a reading break from family history when I received a message from someone researching my Bitton GULLY family, who had picked up my name from the Bitton Families web site: http://www.bittonfamilies.com/ Sifting through my GULLY notes, which were made a number of years ago, I discovered that there are a number of gaps in my research for this family. More resources have been produced since I first started researching the GULLY family, so I am in the process of filling some of these gaps, but would be grateful for help with other gaps. I've discovered that my 3x great-grandfather, Joseph GULLY, had an elder brother, Thomas. Thomas GULLY, the son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 12th. August 1810 at Hanham, GLS. I think I've found I've found him and his wife, Susanna, in the 1851 Bitton census in the household of blacksmith William CASWELL -- Thomas GULLEY (sic), ag lab, 41, and Susanna, 39, both born in Hanham. I can't find a marriage for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS Marriage Index 1813-1837 or in the Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901. The thought has crossed my mind that Susanna may have been a second wife. I can find no children for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS resources. So, Thomas GULLY is rather a mystery at the moment Could someone give me an 1841 census reference for Thomas GULLY/GULLEY and his wife in the Oldland/Bitton/Hanham area, please? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello. I am new to this list. I have a document dated 21 Jan 1867 which is a certified copy of the parish entry from 1851 baps. It seems that Henry would have been 16 yo. His father was James, a labourer. His mother was "Elizabeth". The person who signed the copy is the Minister of Dunster. Looks like Luttrell? The same minister who officiated at the orig bapt. 1, I would welcome suggestions as to why this document had to be obtained at that time. For an apprenticeship? For military service? Or by an institution for the boy to be put out to work? I'm not even sure where the family was in 1867 as I've not found them on the 1861C when he would have been 10yo. 2. Does SKS have access to the Dunster marriage PRs and would be willing to look for a marriage between James BRYANT and an "Elizabeth", please? Say, 1848-1851. I would be very grateful. It's possible that the bride came from there, but I do not have a "maiden" name, and although the couple may have moved away, like many daughters, their children are often taken back to be baptised. I have him in the 1881C and 1901C in Sutton, Surrey. Not found in 1891C. Henry appears to have married twice. 1889 and 1876. But it is those early years I would like to trace. All tips and suggestions welcomed. Always happy to share info if there is a connection to anyone. Thank you. Joan.

At the beginning of the week, I was just about to start a reading break from family history when I received a message from someone researching my Bitton GULLY family, who had picked up my name from the Bitton Families web site: http://www.bittonfamilies.com/ Sifting through my GULLY notes, which were made a number of years ago, I discovered that there are a number of gaps in my research for this family. More resources have been produced since I first started researching the GULLY family, so I am in the process of filling some of these gaps, but would be grateful for help with other gaps. I've discovered that my 3x great-grandfather, Joseph GULLY, had an elder brother, Thomas. Thomas GULLY, the son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 12th. August 1810 at Hanham, GLS. I think I've found I've found him and his wife, Susanna, in the 1851 Bitton census in the household of blacksmith William CASWELL -- Thomas GULLEY (sic), ag lab, 41, and Susanna, 39, both born in Hanham. I can't find a marriage for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS Marriage Index 1813-1837 or in the Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901. The thought has crossed my mind that Susanna may have been a second wife. I can find no children for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS resources. So, Thomas GULLY is rather a mystery at the moment Could someone give me an 1841 census reference for Thomas GULLY/GULLEY and his wife in the Oldland/Bitton/Hanham area, please? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

An interesting site designed and created by Daphne McCutcheon. http://www.minehead-online.co.uk/index.htm (;-)) Edna - Ottawa

Dunster Residents 1910: http://www.minehead-online.co.uk/dunster.htm Edna - Ottawa

Having spent some time "digging" for information on William Browne Bookseller (who was brought to my attention by kind list members Josephine, Bernice and alsoKevin - many thanks Kevin for all your info) I found a notice that this William Browne died suddenly and unexpectedly in the 1830s so sadly he is ruled out as my man who definitely featured in the 1841 census. So it's back to the drawing board and if anyone should spot a likely candidate in their researching I should be very grateful to hear from them. Janet

Josephine: Let's hope I remember how to do this, it has been a while: Whoops, forgot to look on the next page, need to add Elizabeth 3 and Eliza (I swear it is Eliza) 6 mo and they belong to Mary Gully 1841 census for Gloucestershire Bitton District 14 image 11 of 16 Thomas Gully 30 ag lab Sarah 25 both of Glouc. below them Mary Gully 25 independent Mary 4 both of Glouc. The place was Wills Bridge On the left page at the top was a Sam Gully 50 Lime Burner Ann 50 both of Glouc Elizabeth William 80 independent Sophi Gully 40 listed as not of Glouc Mary 6 of Glouc Regards Sylvia Oregon USA from Josephine: At the beginning of the week, I was just about to start a reading break from family history when I received a message from someone researching my Bitton GULLY family, who had picked up my name from the Bitton Families web site: http://www.bittonfamilies.com/ Sifting through my GULLY notes, which were made a number of years ago, I discovered that there are a number of gaps in my research for this family. More resources have been produced since I first started researching the GULLY family, so I am in the process of filling some of these gaps, but would be grateful for help with other gaps. I've discovered that my 3x great-grandfather, Joseph GULLY, had an elder brother, Thomas. Thomas GULLY, the son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 12th. August 1810 at Hanham, GLS. I think I've found I've found him and his wife, Susanna, in the 1851 Bitton census in the household of blacksmith William CASWELL -- Thomas GULLEY (sic), ag lab, 41, and Susanna, 39, both born in Hanham. I can't find a marriage for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS Marriage Index 1813-1837 or in the Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901. The thought has crossed my mind that Susanna may have been a second wife. I can find no children for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS resources. So, Thomas GULLY is rather a mystery at the moment Could someone give me an 1841 census reference for Thomas GULLY/GULLEY and his wife in the Oldland/Bitton/Hanham area, please? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Josephine: Let's hope I remember how to do this, it has been a while: 1841 census for Gloucestershire Bitton District 14 image 11 of 16 Thomas Gully 30 ag lab Sarah 25 both of Glouc. below them Mary Gully 25 independent Mary 4 both of Glouc. The place was Wills Bridge On the left page at the top was a Sam Gully 50 Lime Burner Ann 50 both of Glouc Elizabeth William 80 independent Sophi Gully 40 listed as not of Glouc Mary 6 of Glouc Regards Sylvia Oregon USA from Josephine: At the beginning of the week, I was just about to start a reading break from family history when I received a message from someone researching my Bitton GULLY family, who had picked up my name from the Bitton Families web site: http://www.bittonfamilies.com/ Sifting through my GULLY notes, which were made a number of years ago, I discovered that there are a number of gaps in my research for this family. More resources have been produced since I first started researching the GULLY family, so I am in the process of filling some of these gaps, but would be grateful for help with other gaps. I've discovered that my 3x great-grandfather, Joseph GULLY, had an elder brother, Thomas. Thomas GULLY, the son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 12th. August 1810 at Hanham, GLS. I think I've found I've found him and his wife, Susanna, in the 1851 Bitton census in the household of blacksmith William CASWELL -- Thomas GULLEY (sic), ag lab, 41, and Susanna, 39, both born in Hanham. I can't find a marriage for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS Marriage Index 1813-1837 or in the Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901. The thought has crossed my mind that Susanna may have been a second wife. I can find no children for Thomas and Susanna in the B & A FHS resources. So, Thomas GULLY is rather a mystery at the moment Could someone give me an 1841 census reference for Thomas GULLY/GULLEY and his wife in the Oldland/Bitton/Hanham area, please? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thanks for that information Tony, Janet

Hi Janet Further to Josephine's message these baptisms are online at BMD registers which include the images of the original registers from the National archives. This is a pay to view site unfortunately I have run out of credits at the moment Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] BROWNE William, Bristol Burgess, stationer, 1823 (was BROWNE William Merchant of Bristol) > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:28:08 -0000, Janet Cuff <bgmjcuff@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Many thanks Josephine and Bernice for your help. I think this could >> well be the William Browne I am looking for though I am puzzled that he >> is described as a merchant rather than a bookseller. I found his >> daughter's baptisms in the Non conformist records, but it doesn't >> specify which chapel was used. > > Hi Janet, > > Thanks for your response. > > I looked for the baptisms of the daughters of William BROWNE in the > Nonconformist Baptismal Registers in Bristol Record Office 1754 to 1837 > produced by B & A FHS, but had no result. > > I now see that familysearch has the address of Trinity Street, St > Augustine, Bristol for the births of Fanny Osler BROWNE (1821) Mary BROWNE > (1823) and Lucy BROWNE (1825), daughter of William and Mary, from > Non-Conformist Record Indexes . > > I didn't see the occupation of merchant, though, so perhaps you had this > information from another source. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Josephine, I used The Genealogist as my source for the baptisms of the Browne daughters (incidentally there is also another daughter Ann P Browne1827)  but it was on the 1841 census that William Browne was described as a "Merchant" - I suppose that could well be the enumerator's interpretation of William's business. An interesting aside, which I know is out of our area, but I just mention it here is that the OSLER connection (in Fanny's names) is with the renowned company F&C Osler of Birmingham Glass manufacturer. They produced the most amazing chandeliers amongst other things which were in great demand in India and China as well as in the home market and at the Crystal Palace exhibition their colossal glass fountain was an absolute masterpiece.  Thanks again for your help, I had a feeling that I should hear from you and Bernice in answer to my question! Janet

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:28:08 -0000, Janet Cuff <bgmjcuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Many thanks Josephine and Bernice for your help. I think this could > well be the William Browne I am looking for though I am puzzled that he > is described as a merchant rather than a bookseller. I found his > daughter's baptisms in the Non conformist records, but it doesn't > specify which chapel was used. Hi Janet, Thanks for your response. I looked for the baptisms of the daughters of William BROWNE in the Nonconformist Baptismal Registers in Bristol Record Office 1754 to 1837 produced by B & A FHS, but had no result. I now see that familysearch has the address of Trinity Street, St Augustine, Bristol for the births of Fanny Osler BROWNE (1821) Mary BROWNE (1823) and Lucy BROWNE (1825), daughter of William and Mary, from Non-Conformist Record Indexes . I didn't see the occupation of merchant, though, so perhaps you had this information from another source. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Many thanks Josephine and Bernice for your help.  I think this could well be the William Browne I am looking for though I am puzzled that he is described as a merchant rather than a bookseller.  I found his daughter's baptisms in the Non conformist records, but it doesn't specify which chapel was used.  I shall keep digging, Janet

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:22:03 -0000, Janet Cuff <bgmjcuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I am trying to find more information concerning William Browne Born > 1791, I believe in Bridgwater, but showing on the 1841 census as living > in Richmond Hill, Bristol with his daughters, Fanny 20, Mary 18 and Lucy > 16. By 1851 William is not to be found so I am unable to be certain of > his birth county. Has anyone access to Trade Directories etc which might > give me some clue as to his line of business or indeed any other > details. At the time of his daughters' births he was living in Trinity > St, St Augustine, Bristol. Hi Janet, A possible match for your William BROWNE could be William BROWNE, stationer, who was made a Bristol Burgess on 29th. March 1823 by vote of Council. B & A FHS Bristol Burgess Books Vols. 1 to 21 Index & Transcriptions 1557-1995 www.bafhs.org.uk It looks like this was the William BROWNE, who was a Bookseller, Stationer, Binder at 29 Clare Street, Bristol, according to Pigot's Bristol Directory of 1830: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bristol/ABBOTtoDUFFETT.html Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:22:03 -0000, Janet Cuff <bgmjcuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I am trying to find more information concerning William Browne Born > 1791, I believe in Bridgwater, but showing on the 1841 census as living > in Richmond Hill, Bristol with his daughters, Fanny 20, Mary 18 and Lucy > 16. By 1851 > William is not to be found so I am unable to be certain of his birth > county. Has anyone access to Trade Directories etc which might give me > some clue as to his line of business or indeed any other details. At the > time of his daughters' births he was living in Trinity St, St Augustine, > Bristol. Hi Janet, I looked for the baptisms of the daughters in Bristol, in case there were more details on the father's occupation, but I couldn't find their baptisms in the B & A FHS resources. I looked in Pigot's Bristol Directory of 1822, but didn't see match for William Browne, merchant. Pigot's Bristol Directory of 1830 was also checked. You can have a look at this resource, yourself, in case there is a Brown or Browne, who may be of interest: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bristol/ABBOTtoDUFFETT.html Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I am trying to find more information concerning William Browne Born 1791, I believe in Bridgwater, but showing on the 1841 census as living in Richmond Hill, Bristol with his daughters, Fanny 20, Mary 18 and Lucy 16.  By 1851 William is not to be found so I am unable to be certain of his birth county.  Has anyone access to Trade Directories etc which might give me some clue as to his line of business or indeed any other details. At the time of his daughters' births he was living in Trinity St, St Augustine, Bristol. Many thanks in advance of any help, Janet  

You are welcome! The list is the place to post questions such as you have - there will be others who will also learn from the answers given by other members who have experience in all aspects of researching our ancestors. Sometimes we don't know what it is we didn't know until we see an idea or suggestion posted in response to someone else's question. Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LHIBBARD Thanks once again Yvonne. Will print this off for reference. Now I can really get "stuck in" and print off all the Census pages.

It Reads:Isaac Sayer Batch, and Hannah Harden spin of this parish.Isaac Sayer of this parish, bachelor and Hannah Harden of the same. By Banns.twenty fifth of March 1704. Mark of Isaac Sayer & mark of Han Hardin. Mary. Mary`s Portbury Hundred records at: www.portbury-hundred.co.uk --- On Sun, 16/1/11, w.a.t.d@talktalk.net <w.a.t.d@talktalk.net> wrote: From: w.a.t.d@talktalk.net <w.a.t.d@talktalk.net> Subject: [B&S] WESTON SUPER MARE MARRIAGE LOOK UP To: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 16 January, 2011, 10:35 Hi, I have a marriage that took place on March 26th 1804 at St Johns, between Hannah Harden and Isaac Sayer. Would some one please be kind enough to look this up and see if there is a mention of where they came from and possibly how old they were. Many Thanks Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:12:00 -0000, <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> wrote: > After many years of fruitless searching I have recently discovered that > my direct ancestor Betty HADLEY was the illegitimate daughter of > Elizabeth VAGG and John HADLEY, a limner of the City of Bristol. (a > limner appears to be an itinerant portrait painter). She was baptised > in Blandford Forum, Dorset in 1752. Fortunately there is a Bastardy > Bond in existence in which John HADLEY agrees to pay £50 a year for her > upkeep. The other bondsman is Fortunatus HAGLEY a merchant tailor of > Bristol. > I am looking for a baptism and burial records for either man, and > possible marriages. If anyone can help I should be very grateful On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:48:03 -0000, <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Thank you so much for the additional information, particularly the > burials. Hi Sandra, Here are some more Bristol burials to consider, but no ages were given: John HADLEY was buried on 12th. June 1800 at Temple. John HAGLEY was buried on 24th. April 1755 at St. Mary Redcliffe. John HAGLEY was buried on 18th. March 1760 at St. Michael. These burials are included in Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol 3 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com