I have the birth, May 11, 1790, of Abraham Lang, son of Jos and Jane Lang, at Michael Church or St. Michael Church. I have the marriage of Abraham Lang and Susanna Boverd on May 07, 1810 in the parish of West Monkton. They are both of the Parish of Sojourner but Parish of Marriage is West Monkton. There does not appear to be a church listed. Not knowing the area well enough I am looking for advice as to the correct Church. My best guess would be the St. Michael Church on Pitts Close, Taunton. If someone could point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. ps any suggestions on the background of the Boverd surname would also be of interest ..... it appears the Boverd name may have an Irish connection. Bob Scales, Comox, BC Canada Please consider the environment before printing this email.

I take it that this is not the Will of your 4 x great grandmother but one of another relation in which her descendants are mentioned. What ages were the children? - could the money have been put into a trust for them with the trustees being named. How many children were involved? Were their surnames mentioned or was it the just the first names which do not match your research? Last resort - Have you got the right will?! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <w.a.t.d@talktalk.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:13 PM Subject: [B&S] wrong names on will > > I have just recieved a copy of a will and it states that something was > left to the children of a deceased person (my 4 x great grandmother) > however the children's names are wrong!!! does this mean that the children > wouldnt have got anything at all? > Sandra > >

So this will would be proved by the church courts. Sorry - no idea what the practice was at that time. Ian On 23/01/2011 13:01, w.a.t.d@talktalk.net wrote: > hi the year 1850 > Sandra > > > > >

You don't give a date, but presumably this is some while ago. I believe that present practice is that the legacy goes to the person intended, provided that this is reasonably well established. I have vague memories of case law where someone left a last-minute will which read something like "All to Mother". His wife successfully argued that he referred to her as Mother, and was awarded the estate. Ian On 23/01/2011 12:13, w.a.t.d@talktalk.net wrote: > I have just recieved a copy of a will and it states that something was left to the children of a deceased person (my 4 x great grandmother) however the children's names are wrong!!! does this mean that the children wouldnt have got anything at all? > Sandra > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to all the assistance of the wonderful researchers on the B & D and B & S over the past week.   I have received a great deal of data re: my TOWNSEND ancestors. My g grandfather Fredrick J. TOWNSEND, was the son of David TOWNSEND Coach Maker of Bristol St. Paul area.  He was born in Bitton.  Parents were Samuel and Sarah nee BRAIN TOWNSEND.  Samuel on various census was listed as wheelwright and coach maker.  Per the 1851 census he was a widower, living on Cock Road, Oldland.  His granddaughters Sarah TOWNSEND age 11, and Mary TOWNSEND age 7 were living with him. I believe that my g g grandfather David TOWNSEND was married twice.  The first marriage was to Hannah PEACOCK who may have expired about 1848.  It is from this marriage that my great grandfather and his brother William were issue.  Fredrick (possible middle name John) was born in 1840 and Wm. in 1845.  The 1861 census has Wm. born in Monmouthshire Wales.  I can find no census record for my great grandfather.  By 1861 he was a seaman living in Limerick City, County Limerick Ireland.  Two civil records exist in Ireland; his marriage in 1862 to my g grandmother Honora DALY and the birth of their daughter Helen Mary (known as Ellen) in 1864.  The couple emigrated to USA/Cleveland OH in 1867/1868. The second marriage was before the 1851 census which shows David TOWNSEND with a wife Eliza but no children are mentioned.  The 1861 census has 2 daughters; Alice born 1857, Louisa born 1859 and his son Wm. born 1845.  Eliza is listed as his wife.  Both David and Wm, are listed as coach makers. Have no data on Hannah PEACOCK except the marriage.  Her death and children of this marriage, birth or baptisms (Fredrick & Wm.)    No data on wife #2  Eliza or the daughters of this marriage.  No dates of death for any of these people.  I should think that there would be some record, somewhere for the births/baptisms for Fredrick & William.  Oral history had my g grandfather as welsh/English and Protestant.  No particular denomination mentioned. He could afford after emigration in 1867/1868 to purchase part ownerships in Great Lakes schooners.  Sadly he died at age 35 on 29 November 1875 when his schooner was wrecked by a November gale on Lake Erie.  He left 5 children and his wife expecting a 6th,  Also, he was making investments in land at this time.  Again oral history has him as a deserter from the Royal Navy but Kew has to know the name of the vessel which we do not.  He also could have been a merchant seaman too. Any avenues or suggestions will be much appreciated. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood, OH

Hello Listers Thanks to Chris Jefferies' recent posting regarding the Bristol Parish Registers I have moved a fraction further in my search for information on my Power family. It would appear that my great grandparents, Cecil Randolph POWER and Alice POWER nee HARRIS, had a daughter that I did not know of. The Baptism of Lucia POWER - parents Cecilii and Aliciae POWER took place at St. Nicolas of Tolentino on 19th May 1891. (The names are given in Latin as this was a Roman Catholic baptism). Interestingly, this baptism took place a month prior to the birth of my grandmother, Kathleen Frances POWER on 23rd June 1891. This presents a bit of a mystery. Presumably Lucy was born in 1990, but I can find no record of her birth. I speculate that she may have been baptised because she was in danger of death, but I can find no death record. Neither can I find any record of the baptisms of my grandmother or any of her other siblings who were:- Lilian b. 1882 Gladys b. 1884 Edith b. 1886 Elsie b. 1888 Lucy b. ? Kathleen b. 1891 (my grandmother) Wilfred b. 1893 Sydney b. 1895 Eugenie b. 1897 My late Aunt said that there were two boys who both died (names not known). Cecil Randolph POWER died in 1899. I am still trying to find out where and when Cecil Randolph was born and who his parents were. His marriage certificate gives his father's name as Thomas POWER. The 1891 Census states that he was born in Bristol. However, I know that there are Irish connections, so this may be incorrect. I have long had it in the back of my mind that Cecil Randolph's mother was called Lucy (a dim recollection from my childhood that my be incorrect). Having found this new child I am now thinking that this may be the case. If anyone can help with suggestions as to where to go from here, I would be most grateful. Incidentally, I also found the Christening details of Alice HARRIS, my great grandmother in these newly released records, so thanks again Chris. Regards Millie Original Message: On 3rd Jan 2011 "England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900" was added to Family Search. It contains over 270,000 records indexed by volunteers including me as part of the Bristol Parish Records project on Family Search Indexing which was completed in December. Contrary to the title I don't think it contains any pre 1837 records but it does contain many records well into the early 1900s. Below is the search page:- https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/se archapi/search/collection/1718965

Here's an interesting web page, which I came upon by chance. http://genebug.net/glsinquests.htm Gloucestershire Inquests are featured and there are lots of references to people and places in Bristol and neighbourhood. Dates range from 1722 to 1838. I've just searched for Bitton on this page and a number of references have come up. Searching for Oldland, Hanaham and Kingswood also brings up a lot of information, too. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I might have missed part of this thread so I hesitate to bring up the obvious but. 1. Are you sure that you have the correct person for your 4X GGM? 2. Are you sure that you have the proper children associated with her? Ever Wonder ? __ bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <w.a.t.d@talktalk.net> > To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:13 AM > Subject: [B&S] wrong names on will > > > > I have just recieved a copy of a will and it states that something was > left > to the children of a deceased person (my 4 x great grandmother) however > the > children's names are wrong!!! does this mean that the children wouldnt > have > got anything at all? > Sandra > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Was there a second marriage? Would they have meant grand-children? Cheers, Edna - Ottawa Minus 25C and sunny ----- Original Message ----- From: <w.a.t.d@talktalk.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:13 AM Subject: [B&S] wrong names on will I have just recieved a copy of a will and it states that something was left to the children of a deceased person (my 4 x great grandmother) however the children's names are wrong!!! does this mean that the children wouldnt have got anything at all? Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi the year 1850 Sandra -----Original Message----- From: Ian Sage <sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:36 Subject: Re: [B&S] wrong names on will You don't give a date, but presumably this is some while ago. I believe hat present practice is that the legacy goes to the person intended, rovided that this is reasonably well established. I have vague memories f case law where someone left a last-minute will which read something ike "All to Mother". His wife successfully argued that he referred to er as Mother, and was awarded the estate. Ian On 23/01/2011 12:13, w.a.t.d@talktalk.net wrote: I have just recieved a copy of a will and it states that something was left to he children of a deceased person (my 4 x great grandmother) however the hildren's names are wrong!!! does this mean that the children wouldnt have got nything at all? Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I have just recieved a copy of a will and it states that something was left to the children of a deceased person (my 4 x great grandmother) however the children's names are wrong!!! does this mean that the children wouldnt have got anything at all? Sandra

On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:39:17 -0000, Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Have found two COOK Baptisms that I have been looking for for ages. > Bingo again, really good results, thanks to the indexers. Good news, Pat! And thanks again to Chris Jefferies for bringing this site to our attention. I've just found the marriage of my 2x great-grandfather's half sister and I've never even looked for that before. Mary DOWN and George MICHAEL were married on 27th. September 1873 at Clifton. The groom's father was George MICHAEL and the bride's father was Robert DOWN. All I had in my notes for Mary DOWN was her birth registration in Clifton in the September quarter of 1847 and 1861 and 1871 census information for her when she was living with her mother, Harriet DOWN. Now I'll be able to look for her details in later censuses and I'll check the 1851 census as I don't appear to have written down the information on that. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:32:13 -0000, Tony Harrison <a.harrison@tesco.net> wrote: > Hi Josephine > Hope this makes your inbox Hi Tony, Yes, it has, but I'm still checking the B & S archives in case anything doesn't get through to me. > Tried this site. First search found the burial of my Samuel Beard, > However > tried to find it again and it took me 5 goes to get it to come up, It > appears that the information you enter has to be specific It did not like > Samuel Beard 1860 Bristol , tried without the date No: tried Bristol > Gloucestershire with and without date, No: Tried Bristol Somerset without > date then with date and Bingo. I've just been putting the surname and Bristol into the search. Yesterday, I had an excellent result with the surname PRESS and I've just put the surname GOODLAND into the search and a number of events with recognizable relatives has come up. I've only tried about five surnames so far and I've found a mass of information. The thrilling part is finding the information. The hard part is writing it all up in my notes! Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

The records on line mainly seem to be for the city parishes but spread as far east as St George, as far north as Staplton and Wesbury on Trym, as far east as Shirehampton and as far south as Bedminster. However they don't cover all parishes within that area so I don't know if this is just the first batch or everything that was transcribed by the project. When doing a search I think it is best to leave "Place" blank as it seems very temperamental. In tests it found Brislington and Montpelier but not Clifton. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 21 January 2011 22:56 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Bristol Parish Records on Family Search On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:07:18 -0000, Chris Jefferies <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 3rd Jan 2011 "England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900" was added > to Family Search. It contains over 270,000 records indexed by volunteers > including me as part of the Bristol Parish Records project on Family > Search Indexing which was completed in December. > The big advantage these records have over FreeBMD is that for a marriage > you know exactly who married who and the names of the fathers and for a > christening you have the parents names. > Below is the search page:- < https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/se archapi/search/collection/1718965> Thank you very much for this information, Chris. I've only looked for three of my Bristol surnames so far and already have lots of information, which I didn't have have before, including the baptism of a great-uncle. It's well worth a look at these records. Anyone doing so could well be amazed. Let the list know if any great discoveries are made. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3394 - Release Date: 01/21/11

Have found two COOK Baptisms that I have been looking for for ages. Rosina May COOK bapt 9 Dec 1896 Christ Church, Barton Hill, Bristol, Glos d/o John Philip Cook and his wife Alice. Beatrice Alice COOK bapt same day, same info. Now I need to find the baptisms of the other four children. Bingo again, really good results, thanks to the indexers. Pat in Grimsby, Lincs

Hi Josephine Hope this makes your inbox Tried this site. First search found the burial of my Samuel Beard, However tried to find it again and it took me 5 goes to get it to come up, It appears that the information you enter has to be specific It did not like Samuel Beard 1860 Bristol , tried without the date No: tried Bristol Gloucestershire with and without date, No: Tried Bristol Somerset without date then with date and Bingo. Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Bristol Parish Records on Family Search > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:07:18 -0000, Chris Jefferies > <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 3rd Jan 2011 "England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900" was added >> to Family Search. It contains over 270,000 records indexed by volunteers >> including me as part of the Bristol Parish Records project on Family >> Search Indexing which was completed in December. > >> The big advantage these records have over FreeBMD is that for a marriage >> you know exactly who married who and the names of the fathers and for a >> christening you have the parents names. > >> Below is the search page:- > >> https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/se >> archapi/search/collection/1718965 > > Thank you very much for this information, Chris. I've only looked for > three of my Bristol surnames so far and already have lots of information, > which I didn't have have before, including the baptism of a great-uncle. > > It's well worth a look at these records. Anyone doing so could well be > amazed. > > Let the list know if any great discoveries are made. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:07:18 -0000, Chris Jefferies <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 3rd Jan 2011 "England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900" was added > to Family Search. It contains over 270,000 records indexed by volunteers > including me as part of the Bristol Parish Records project on Family > Search Indexing which was completed in December. > The big advantage these records have over FreeBMD is that for a marriage > you know exactly who married who and the names of the fathers and for a > christening you have the parents names. > Below is the search page:- > https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/se > archapi/search/collection/1718965 Thank you very much for this information, Chris. I've only looked for three of my Bristol surnames so far and already have lots of information, which I didn't have have before, including the baptism of a great-uncle. It's well worth a look at these records. Anyone doing so could well be amazed. Let the list know if any great discoveries are made. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I've just received information about the inscription on the Bitton gravestone of my 6x great-grandfather, William GULLY, who died on 31st. October 1787, aged 70 years. This ties in with the burial date of 4th. November 1787 at Bitton for William GULLY, which is in the Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol. 3 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812. www.bafhs.org.uk As William GULLY died in 1787, he could have been the William GULLY who was among the 20 people in Oldland entitled to take part in The Poll at the Election of a Knight of the Shire for the County of Gloucester, which took place in May 1776. William GULLY's qualification to vote was house and land in his own tenure. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Maggie, Thanks for telling us of the exhibition of photographs and memorabilia from 26th January to 30th January 2011 at the Fry Club, Somerdale, Keynsham. Your post has reminded me of seeing old postcards of the Fry's factory, when I've been to postcard fairs. There are some interesting pictures of Fry's products on the following web page, plus information on the history of J. S. Fry and Sons, Ltd : http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/wiki/J._S._Fry_and_Sons Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com