There's an interesting selection of information about Bristol in January 1807 on the following web page: Bristol 1807 - in this month http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Leisure-Culture/Libraries/bristol-1807-in-this-month.en?page=2#internalSection2 -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Bob Looking at a transcription of the Lang baptisms for St Michaelchurch on one, the baptism of Harriet, it states of Petherton. There is both a North Petherton and a South Petherton Hope this helps Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.E. Scales" <comoxvalleybob@gmail.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: [B&S] Which Church?? >I have the birth, May 11, 1790, of Abraham Lang, son of Jos and Jane Lang, > at Michael Church > or St. Michael Church. > > I have the marriage of Abraham Lang and Susanna Boverd on May 07, 1810 in > the parish of > West Monkton. They are both of the Parish of Sojourner but Parish of > Marriage is West Monkton. > There does not appear to be a church listed. > > Not knowing the area well enough I am looking for advice as to the correct > Church. My best guess > would be the St. Michael Church on Pitts Close, Taunton. > > If someone could point me in the right direction that would be > appreciated. > > > ps any suggestions on the background of the Boverd surname would also be > of > interest ..... it > appears the Boverd name may have an Irish connection. > > Bob Scales, Comox, BC Canada > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bob There is no parish of Sojourner, the word sojourner means to reside temporarily so they were not residents of West Monkton. The church in West Monkton is St Augustine. The place of birth for Abraham is St Michaelchurch which is south of Bridgwater If you go to http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/StMichaelchurch/index.html you will find details Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.E. Scales" <comoxvalleybob@gmail.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: [B&S] Which Church?? >I have the birth, May 11, 1790, of Abraham Lang, son of Jos and Jane Lang, > at Michael Church > or St. Michael Church. > > I have the marriage of Abraham Lang and Susanna Boverd on May 07, 1810 in > the parish of > West Monkton. They are both of the Parish of Sojourner but Parish of > Marriage is West Monkton. > There does not appear to be a church listed. > > Not knowing the area well enough I am looking for advice as to the correct > Church. My best guess > would be the St. Michael Church on Pitts Close, Taunton. > > If someone could point me in the right direction that would be > appreciated. > > > ps any suggestions on the background of the Boverd surname would also be > of > interest ..... it > appears the Boverd name may have an Irish connection. > > Bob Scales, Comox, BC Canada > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:00:59 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > Josephine~ > That may be the correct 2nd wife. I base this on the fact that on my g > grandmother's death certificate in 1913, someone gave that surname as her > father's surname. This, of course was incorrect but no one bothered to > change it. > You know, thank you just does not seem enough for all you have found for > me! Hi Mary Ellen, Thank you for your response. I'm glad that the pieces of the puzzle are coming together. What I've found for you is just through having some local knowledge and knowing where to look in the resources available. For Bristol research, the resources on baptisms, marriages and burials produced by the Bristol & Avon Family History Society are excellent. http://www.bafhs.org.uk/ The B & A FHS site also has the South Gloucestershire Burial Index, which is a great resource: http://www.bafhs.org.uk/burialindex/burials.htm For Bitton research there is the excellent Bitton Families web site: http://www.bittonfamilies.com/ Old maps are useful. If you take a look at the the map of the environs of Clifton and Bristol c.1857, which is on my web site http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/bristolbits/bristol/bolton.htm you will see the position of Bitton in relation to Bristol. Bitton is in the bottom right-hand quarter of the map. Here's a map I have just found of Gloucestershire in 1843. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~genmaps/genfiles/COU_files/ENG/GLS/archer_gls_1843.html If you scroll down to the second enlargement, you will see a section of the map which includes Bristol and Bitton. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I believe that my g g grandfather David TOWNSEND was married twice. The > first marriage was to Hannah PEACOCK who may have expired about 1848. Hi Mary Ellen, If the TOWNSEND family was back in Bristol in the late 1840s, then one of the two women called Hannah TOWNSEND, whose deaths were registered in Clifton, could be a match for the first wife of David TOWNSEND. The death of one Hannah TOWNSEND was registered in the March quarter of 1848 and the death of the other Hannah was registered in the September quarter of 1849. You'll find the details of these death registrations on FreeBMD: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > Any avenues or suggestions will be much appreciated. Hi Mary Ellen, Bernice has drawn my attention to the Gloucester Archives and information about George TOWNSEND, a collier of Bitton, who was in Gloucester Gaol in 1844. You'll find the reference if you go to this web page: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx and put Townsend George into the search. When the next page comes up with a number of men by this name, click on the 1844 Townsend and the details will come up. Bernice also mentioned a James TOWNSEND of Bristol who was in Gloucester Gaol in 1863, a reference to whom you'll also find if you put Townsend James into the search. They may not belong to your family, but it's another search avenue and it may be of use to other listers, too. Thanks Bernice, for pointing us in this direction. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > The second marriage was before the 1851 census which shows David > TOWNSEND with a wife Eliza but no children are mentioned. The 1861 > census has 2 daughters Alice born 1857, Louisa born 1859 and his son Wm. > born 1845. Eliza is listed as> his wife. Both David and Wm, are listed > as coach makers. Hi Mary Ellen, FreeBMD has a marriage registration in Bristol for David TOWNSEND in the June quarter of 1851. Eliza GRIFFITHS is recorded among the possible brides. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ The 1851 census took place on 30th. March 1851 so if this is the couple, they were married after the census and between the beginning of April and the end of June of that year. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I believe that my g g grandfather David TOWNSEND was married twice. The > first marriage was to Hannah PEACOCK who may have expired about 1848. > It is from this marriage that my great grandfather and his brother > William were issue. Fredrick> (possible middle name John) was born in > 1840 and Wm. in 1845. Hi Mary Ellen, If you are going to trace the PEACOCK family, too, you may find the PEACOCK page on the South Gloucestershire Burial Index useful. Here it is: http://www.bafhs.org.uk/burialindex/burialspeac.htm Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > David TOWNSEND Coach Maker of Bristol St. Paul area. He was born in > Bitton. Parents were Samuel and Sarah Hi Mary Ellen, There are TOWNSEND burials at Bitton and Holy Trinity, Kingswood on the South Gloucestershire Burial Index. You can see the details on the following web page: http://www.bafhs.org.uk/burialindex/burialstow.htm Some of these TOWNSENDs may belong to your family. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > David TOWNSEND Coach Maker of Bristol St. Paul area. He was born in > Bitton. Parents were Samuel and Sarah Hi Mary Ellen, Samuel TOWNSEND, son of William and Mary, was baptized on 22nd. August 1784 at Bitton. A match for his parents could be William TOWNSEND and Mary PETTIGROVE or PETTIGROVES, who were married on 2nd. February 1766 at Bitton. Mary TOWNSEND, aged 78, of Cock Road was buried on 26th. November 1820 at Bitton As you know, widower, Samuel TOWNSEND, 66, was living at Cock Road, Oldland at the time of the 1851 census. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > My g grandfather Fredrick J. TOWNSEND, was the son of David TOWNSEND > Coach Maker of Bristol St. Paul area. Hi Mary Ellen, Welcome to the list:-) I think that the Portland Terrace, where David TOWNSEND lived in 1861, could have been Portland Terrace, Wilder Street, Bristol. David TOWNSEND was a coach builder. He could have been employed by coach builder, Charles LOVELESS, who was in Wilder Street in 1861 or he could have worked for the coach builders in nearby Stokes Croft. In 1861, they were J. SKINNER, 36 Stokes Croft, J. PERRY & Sons, 61 Stokes Croft and J. RUSSELL, 78 Stokes Croft. You'll find the location of Wilder Street and Stokes Croft on the 1910 map of Bristol on the following web page: http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm Wilder Street stretches across G1 and G2 Stokes Croft stretches across F1 and F2 Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Tony Holy Trinity was built in the 1830's to serve that expanding industrial areas of the city. SS Philip & Jacobs churchyard was closed by law in 1854 along with a load of other inner city churchyards mainly for sanitary reasons. Both graveyards were cleared of stones a long time ago although there are some visible used as path stones at P&J. Arnos Vale cemetery was opened in 1839 and Greenbank cemetery was opened in 1871 specifically for the large St Philips Parish. More details here: http://www.bafhs.org.uk/bburials.htm Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Harrison" <a.harrison@tesco.net> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:48 PM Subject: [B&S] Holy Trinity St Philip >I have located the burial of Samuel Beard in 1860 > he is shown as buried at Holy Trinity St Philip. Samuel lived in the > parish > of St Philip and St Jacob would I be right in assuming that as Holy > Trinity > was built within the parish of St Philip and St Jacob that burials for the > parish would have taken place at Holy Trinity as the graveyard at St > Philip > and St Jacob was full.. > Any help appreciated > Tony > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have located the burial of Samuel Beard in 1860 he is shown as buried at Holy Trinity St Philip. Samuel lived in the parish of St Philip and St Jacob would I be right in assuming that as Holy Trinity was built within the parish of St Philip and St Jacob that burials for the parish would have taken place at Holy Trinity as the graveyard at St Philip and St Jacob was full.. Any help appreciated Tony

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:07:14 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > I've just received information about the inscription on the Bitton > gravestone of my 6x great-grandfather, William GULLY, who died on 31st. > October 1787, aged 70 years. > As William GULLY died in 1787, he could have been the William GULLY who > was among the 20 people in Oldland entitled to take part in The Poll at > the Election of a Knight of the Shire for the County of Gloucester, which > took place in May 1776. William GULLY's qualification to vote was house > and land in his own tenure. I've just found out that, in February 1777, William GULLY had his vote in the 1776 Gloucestershire election nullified. This was because the land was in his own tenure, but there was no freehold. Source: The Annals of Kingswood Volume II 1776-1795 by D.P.Lindegaard Once you start looking into things all sorts of snippets come forth. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Josephine~       That may be the correct 2nd wife.  I base this on the fact that on my g  grandmother's death certificate in 1913, someone gave that surname as her father's surname.  This, of course was incorrect but no one bothered to change it.  Her parents were Thomas and Margaret nee FITZPATRICK DALY.  That surname must have come up in family conversations back in the day.  Whomever furnished the information must have thought it was HER parent's surname, did not connect it with her husband's family.        You know, thank you just does not seem enough for all you have found for me! Mary Ellen ----- Original Message ---- From: Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 2:17:17 PM! Subject: [B&S] Marriage registration for David TOWNSEND, Bristol, 1851 (TOWNSEND Family) On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > The second marriage was before the 1851 census which shows David  > TOWNSEND with a wife Eliza but no children are mentioned.  The 1861  > census has 2 daughters Alice born 1857, Louisa born 1859 and his son Wm.  > born 1845.  Eliza is listed as> his wife.  Both David and Wm, are listed  > as coach makers. Hi Mary Ellen, FreeBMD has a marriage registration in Bristol for David TOWNSEND in the June quarter of 1851. Eliza GRIFFITHS is recorded among the possible brides. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ The 1851 census took place on 30th. March 1851 so if this is the couple, they were married after the census and between the beginning of April and the end of June of that year. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:11:10 -0000, RJ Harris <rj.harris@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Samuel=Sarah also bapt. a daughter Abigail on 18.6.1820 at Oldland. Thanks for this baptism, Reg. I'd missed it. Looking at the B & A FHS Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols 1 to 7 Index & Transcripts 1813-1837, I see that Abigail TOWNSEND, the daughter of Samuel and Sarah, was 7 months at the time of her baptism at Oldland. The abode was Grimsbury, but now the father's occupation was carpenter instead of wheelwright as it had been at the baptisms of Esther and Hannah, in 1815, and David, in 1818. I see, though, that the father's occupation was again wheelwright at the baptism of Mary in 1824. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:11:10 -0000, RJ Harris <rj.harris@ntlworld.com> wrote: > There is a record for a William TOWNSEND coalminer - killed by a roof > fall in a Pit of SAMUEL WHITTUCK of Hanham. An Inquest was held at the > Queens Head, Hanham on 24.11.1800. Hi Reg, Thanks for this. Every snippet helps. Going by this information, I've had a look in the B & A FHS Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol 3. Index & Transcripts 1754-1812 and I see that William TOWNSEND was buried the next day, on 25th. November 1800 at Bitton. No age was given. He could have been William TOWNSEND, son of William and Mary, who was baptized on 9th. November 1766 at Bitton. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On 21/01/2011 14:09, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > In 2006,I corresponded with a B& S list member about the TOWNSEND family > of Bitton. A recent correspondent has a link with a different TOWNSEND > branch. Here are some details about this family, which I have found so far: > > Samuel TOWNSEND, son of William and Mary, was baptized on 22nd. August > 1784 at Bitton. There is a record for a William TOWNSEND coalminer - killed by a roof fall in a Pit of SAMUEL WHITTUCK of Hanham. An Inquest was held at the Queens Head, Hanham on 24.11.1800. Samuel=Sarah also bapt. a daughter Abigail on 18.6.1820 at Oldland. Reg Harris > The marriage of Samuel TOWNSEND and Sarah BRAIN, took place, by banns, on > 19th. July 1807 at St. > Mary Redcliffe Church, Bristol. > > Samuel and Sarah TOWNSEND had three children baptized on 14th. October > 1810 at Hanham, Gloucestershire. They were William, Nancy, 2 years 9 > months and Ruth, 4 years. > > They had two children, Esther and Hannah, baptized on 21st. May 1815 at > Oldland. Abode was Grimsbury Farm and father's occupation was wheelwright. > > David TOWNSEND, son of Samuel and Sarah, was baptized on 7th. June 1818 at > Oldland. David was aged 1 year 8 months at the time of his baptism. Abode > was near Grimsbury and father's occupation was > wheelwright. > > Mary was baptized on 20th. June 1824 at Oldland. The abode was near > Grimsbury and father's occupation was wheelwright. > > It is recorded in the Indexes to Bristol Record Office Tithe Apportionment > Books that Samuel TOWNSEND was the occupier of a house and garden owned by > Samuel BATCHELLOR. > > Sarah TOWNSEND, aged 66, of Cock Rd was buried on 13th. October 1850 at > Holy Trinity Church, Kingswood. > > At the time of the 1851 census, widower, Samuel TOWNSEND, 66, born in > Bitton, was a coach builder in Oldland, Gloucestershire. > > He was living at Cock Road, Oldland. In his household were granddaughters > Sarah TOWNSEND, 11, born in Bitton, and Mary TOWNSEND, 7, born in Bristol. > > Census reference HO107/1944 Folio 0458 Schedule 126 > > The marriage of David TOWNSEND, bachelor, and Hannah PEACOCK, spinster, > took place, > by banns, on 2nd. May 1836 at St. Mary's Church, Bitton, Gloucestershire. > > Baptism and marriages are from the resources produced on CD by Bristol& > Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > Can anyone add anything else about this family, please? >

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:33:47 -0000, G Feltham <g_feltham@sky.com> wrote: > This made me sit up as I had been trawling through my names and found my > great great uncle Thomas J JAY marrying a Mary Ann GOODLAND > She was a widow of a John GOODLAND . Hi Grant, As your message came through I was still trawling through my GOODLANDs. Of course I had to see if I had a John GOODLAND, who could have been Mary's Ann's husband, but all the people called John GOODLAND, in my tree, lived much earlier. > Well worth spending time on this site Yes, indeed! But I am spending too much time on it! It's like being a child and having the pick of sweets in a sweetshop! Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Jo wrote "I've just been putting the surname and Bristol into the search. Yesterday, I had an excellent result with the surname PRESS and I've just put the surname GOODLAND into the search and a number of events with recognizable relatives has come up." This made me sit up as I had been trawling through my names and found my great great uncle Thomas J JAY marrying a Mary Ann GOODLAND She was a widow of a John GOODLAND .Thomas was the second son of Matthew & Joanna JAY born 1860. He was previously married to Maria JOY (sic) The JAY familys lived in Factory Street , Barton Hill Incidentaly, the entry has Barton Hill as being Somersetshire although north of the river this is the first time I've seen it quoted as such. A search for another surname, and still filtered just for the Bristol Parish Registers, appears as being in the parish St Peter, Wapley way outside of the city. So the coverage is variable although I think on further investigation these particular ones are all burials , 1340 of them !! In addition I have found some thirty or so 'new' baptisms including some new Christian names for a FELTHAM I only had as a BADEN and unknown children that died in infancy between census years Well worth spending time on this site Somersetshire, Barton Hill, St Luke parents: George Hallett spouse: Thomas Jay marriage: 24 Dec 1900 - Barton Hill, St Luke, Somersetshire, England record title : England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900 name: Thomas Jay event: MARRIAGE event date: 24 Dec 1900 event place: Barton Hill, St Luke, Somersetshire, England gender: Male marital status: Widowed father: Matthew Jay spouse: Mary Ann Goodland spouse's marital status: Widowed spouse's father: George Hallett digital folder number:4205012 Grant Feltham