Just checking that I can now send to the List. TonyRosser Scotland

Australia calls for return of historic map http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/news/Australia-calls-return-historic-map/article-3158932-detail/article.html -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

The 50th anniversary celebration of the opening of Kingswood Library is going to be held be held on Saturday 12th. February, between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. At the event, there will be a display of Kingswood photographs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9376000/9376559.stm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Pat Many Thanks for kindly forwarding the attached information, I shall contact the Malago society and enquire if they have any photos or further information on Greenbush Buildings. Kind Regards Keith On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > My great grandmother lived in Greenway Bush Lane around 1900 and I know > that > the area has been redeveloped quite considerably since then. > > There is a photo of the Cricketers' Arms in Greenway Bush Lane > http://bristolslostpubs.eu/page99.html - this was destroyed in the blitz > as > was quite a bit of the surrounding area. > > There is a Local History Society which covers this area - they might be > able > to help - they have published a photographic history of Bedminster - it's > the Malago Society www.malago.org.uk/ They do not get involved with Family > History research but may have a photograph of Greenway Bush Lane. > > Pat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "keith cranney" <kc54497@googlemail.com> > To: "bristol_and_somerset" <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:21 AM > Subject: [B&S] Photo required - Greenbush Buildings - Greenway Bush Lane - > Bristol around 1880 - 1950 > > > > Would any kind lister possibly have any photos showing > Greenbush > > Buildings < which was situated off Greenway Bush Lane - Ashton Bristol. > > around 1880 - 1950s > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Keith > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

List members, who like reading about Tudor history, may be interested in a BBC article about a mural of King Henry VIII, which has been uncovered in Somerset: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-12306904 Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

My great grandmother lived in Greenway Bush Lane around 1900 and I know that the area has been redeveloped quite considerably since then. There is a photo of the Cricketers' Arms in Greenway Bush Lane http://bristolslostpubs.eu/page99.html - this was destroyed in the blitz as was quite a bit of the surrounding area. There is a Local History Society which covers this area - they might be able to help - they have published a photographic history of Bedminster - it's the Malago Society www.malago.org.uk/ They do not get involved with Family History research but may have a photograph of Greenway Bush Lane. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith cranney" <kc54497@googlemail.com> To: "bristol_and_somerset" <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:21 AM Subject: [B&S] Photo required - Greenbush Buildings - Greenway Bush Lane - Bristol around 1880 - 1950 > Would any kind lister possibly have any photos showing > Greenbush > Buildings < which was situated off Greenway Bush Lane - Ashton Bristol. > around 1880 - 1950s > > Kind Regards > > Keith >

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:34:25 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I traced the possible second wife of my Great Great Grandfather David > TOWNSEND to the 1851 census as Eliza GRIFFITHS. This could be the wrong > Eliza but in the > census she is living in Bristol Castle Precinct with parents John and > There is a grandchild listed, birth 1836, Fredrick GRIFFITHS and some > other children. > Could this be my g grandfather and Eliza is the birth mother. Maybe she > married David later in the year 1851 and is listed twice in the census?? Going by the birthplaces, I think that the Eliza GRIFFITHS, aged 30, of Castle Precincts, born in St. Stephen's, Bristol, was not the same person as the Eliza, aged 24 and born in Bruton, who was living in the St. Paul's household of the TOWNSEND coach maker, who was born in Warmley. Bruton is in Somerset. What was your Eliza's age and birth place in the 1861 census? Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Josephine, Bernice and all the many who have assisted me over the past week, a big THANK YOU!!! I have another question/questions. I traced the possible second wife of my Great Great Grandfather David TOWNSEND to the 1851 census as Eliza GRIFFITHS.  This could be the wrong Eliza but in the census she is living in Bristol Castle Precinct with parents John and Mary.  There is a grandchild listed, birth 1836, Fredrick GRIFFITHS and some other children.  I have no idea who his parent/parents were.  Cannot discern his occupation or if he is a student. Could this be my g grandfather and Eliza is the birth mother.  Maybe she married David later in the year 1851 and is listed twice in the census??    My g grandfather's birth is always listed in USA records as 1840 but who knows?  Could be the wrong Griffith's family altogether. I did find a John TOWNSEND age 11, adopted living on Castle St. Monmouthshire County Wales 1851 census.  The head of the house is a woman with surname THOMAS and a man Wm THOMAS or is it TOWNSEND is living there, occupation sailor.  Would a child have been adopted if he was apprenticed to learn the seaman's trade??  Are there adoption records in Wales/Bristol this far back?? I cannot locate his younger brother Wm.  in the 1851 census for Wales or Bristol.  He shows up in the 1861 census living with David and wife Eliza. Any thoughts or ideas as always would be appreciated.

Would any kind lister possibly have any photos showing > Greenbush Buildings < which was situated off Greenway Bush Lane - Ashton Bristol. around 1880 - 1950s Kind Regards Keith

Would any kind lister have a photo showing Greenbush Buildings in the Ashton -Bedminster/Southville area of Bristol. Kind Regards Keith

I am researching the following: My gr gr grandparents: James CRAY b abt 1786 m Patience WEBB (father - William WEBB) at St. Mary Newington, Southwark Borough, Middlesex Eng. in 1812 Known children: Elizabeth b abt 1814 James b abt 1819 Susannah b abt 1824 Thomas b abt 1826 Caroline b abt 1828 James and Patience CRAY lived in St. Philip & St Jacob Parish, Bristol James CRAY died 1849 and Patience married James THOMAS in 1850 at Holy Trinity Church Bristol. My gr grandparents: Susannah CRAY m Thomas Henry WYATT (father John WYATT) at the Parish Church of Bedminister in 1838 They had the following children: James b abt 1847 m Emma Hoare John b abt 1851 m Jane Sims Charles b abt 1851 m Catherine in US Thomas Henry b abt 1852 m Elizabeth Letitia Nelson in US (My Grandparents) Susannah b abt 1856 Sarah Ann b abt 1859 Caroline b abt 1861 (m Thomas George Bolter) Thomas and Susannah WYATT lived in Newland Gloucestershire. Would like to hear from anyone researching these families. Priscilla (WYATT) DAVIS

On 26 Jan 2011 at 10:28, adrianp7 wrote: > Schedule item no. 127 of RG 9/1683 page 62 includes entries for the > Wagon and Horses Inn at Dunkerton. Unfortunately I have not been able > to decipher all of the details of the occupants etc. > > I would very much appreciate help with the following, please: - > > The two words above Wagon and Horses Inn. > > The occupation of Elizabeth Perkins - possibly Formerly in (sic) > keeper. > > The occupation of Susan Pothecary - possibly beer maker. > > Adrian > Yorkshire > The two words above Wagon and Horses are CURBS CASTELL. This proves to be correct, as transcribed at Findmypast, if you look at the Bath Registration District, 1861 Census Street Index C-F at..... http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Bath_Registration_D istrict,_1861_Census_Street_Index_C-F where it is listed as Curbs Castell and Cottages, Dunkerton. I think the mother-in-law's occupation is probably "former inn keeper" but Susan Pothecary was a dressmaker. Observe the long "f" used as an "s". FMP also has this transcribed correctly. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Schedule item no. 127 of RG 9/1683 page 62 includes entries for the Wagon and Horses Inn at Dunkerton. Unfortunately I have not been able to decipher all of the details of the occupants etc. I would very much appreciate help with the following, please: - The two words above Wagon and Horses Inn. The occupation of Elizabeth Perkins - possibly Formerly in (sic) keeper. The occupation of Susan Pothecary - possibly beer maker. Adrian Yorkshire

Hi, Just to say that Mullins is a very popular name in Suffolk. Best wishes Sue

Hi I missed the first posting about Sarah Brain so am not sure what date range is being considered. There is a Sarah Brain nee Maies in my (distant) family tree from a similar era and who was subject to some unusual circumstances. I doubt that she is the one being looked for but I have included the relevant extract from my notes in case it is of interest:- Charles Maies and Susanna nee Pierce had a daughter, Sarah, who was baptised on 30/12/1771 in St James. Sarah married George Brain on 20/1/1793 in St Philip & Jacob. Sarah appears to have suffered the indignity of George committing bigamy. This information comes from George's will dated 23/8/1831 made shortly after he remarried. George died in 1839 and it has been recorded on the will that although Sarah had been alive when he remarried she had by then died and the legal opinion was that the will should be valid provided that his second wife was known as Brain and received as George's wife. It is known that George and Sarah went to Jamaica where they had children and that George's remarriage was in London. Cheers Howard Mais Message: 5 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:38:01 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] BRAIN Sarah, baptisms, Hanham, GLS, 1785 & 1786 (TOWNSEND Family) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vptpxntp42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > David TOWNSEND Coach Maker of Bristol St. Paul area. He was born in > Bitton. Parents were Samuel and Sarah nee BRAIN TOWNSEND. Hi Mary Ellen, If the marriage of Samuel TOWNSEND and Sarah BRAIN, which took place, by banns, on 19th. July 1807 at St. Mary Redcliffe Church, Bristol is the correct one, the baptism of a Sarah BRAIN would take you a generation further back. Sarah TOWNSEND, aged 66, of Cock Rd was buried on 13th. October 1850 at Holy Trinity Church, Kingswood so, if her age at death was right, she was born c. 1784. Possible matches could be Sarah BRAIN, aged 1 year, daughter of Samuel and Amy, who was baptized on 16th. January 1785 at Hanham or Sarah BRAIN, daughter of William and Hester, who was baptized on 4th. June 1786 at Hanham. These baptisms are included in the B & A FHS Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols. 8 to 10 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812. www.bafhs.org.uk However, it's also possible that neither of these baptisms is the right one. Josephine Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hallo, I have an interest in the Name's of Martin and Mullins, of Bishops Lydeard Tolland and Combe Florey pre 1837. My ancestor is Joanna Martin b. Lydeard St.Lawrence who married a William Evans in Bedminster. Joanna's Parents were Thomas Martin born in Tolland and Joan Mullins born in Bishops Lydeard. I have not managed to trace where William Evans came from as yet. Any help regarding these families would be most appreciated. Rg Lynne

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I believe that my g g grandfather David TOWNSEND was married twice. The > first marriage was to Hannah PEACOCK who may have expired about 1848. > It is from this marriage that my great grandfather and his brother > William were issue. Fredrick (possible middle name John) was born in > 1840 and Wm. in 1845. > Have no data on Hannah PEACOCK except the marriage. Her death and > children of this marriage, birth or baptisms (Fredrick & Wm.) Hi Mary Ellen, In my previous message, I mentioned that there were three children in the household of David and Hannah TOWNSEND at the time of the 1841 census, Abigail, 5, Zachariah, 3, and Mary 3 months. I've now found that Zachariah TOWNSEND, aged 6, of The Batch, was buried on 17th. March 1844 at Bitton. Abigail may have died young, too, as there is a death registration on FreeBMD for an Abigail TOWNSEND in Clifton in the September quarter of 1849. Previously, I mentioned that there was a death registration for a Hannah TOWNSEND in Clifton in the September quarter of 1849. As the death registrations are in the September quarter of 1849, it's possible that they may have been victims of cholera. Of course, this Abigail TOWNSEND and Hannah TOWNSEND may not belong to your family, but it's a case of leaving no stone unturned. Cholera struck Bristol in 1849 and this epidemic lasted from June to October with 444 people dead. After this there were reforms concerning sanitary state of the city. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I believe that my g g grandfather David TOWNSEND was married twice. The > first marriage was to Hannah PEACOCK who may have expired about 1848. > It is from this marriage that my great grandfather and his brother > William were issue. Fredrick (possible middle name John) was born in > 1840 and Wm. in 1845. > Have no data on Hannah PEACOCK except the marriage. Her death and > children of this marriage, birth or baptisms (Fredrick & Wm.) Hi Mary Ellen, I have a surprise for you. It looks like David and Hannah TOWNSEND had at least three other children. At the time of the 1841 census, they were living at Warmley Hill, Oldland. Both Hannah and David were recorded as being 25 and the children in their household were Abigail, 5, Zachariah, 3, and Mary 3 months. All were born in the county of Gloucestershire. The occupation of David TOWNSEND was wheelwright. Abigail was born before civil registration, but FreeBMD has the birth registration of Zachariah TOWNSEND at Keynsham in the March quarter of 1838. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:03:26 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > David TOWNSEND Coach Maker of Bristol St. Paul area. He was born in > Bitton. Parents were Samuel and Sarah nee BRAIN TOWNSEND. Hi Mary Ellen, If the marriage of Samuel TOWNSEND and Sarah BRAIN, which took place, by banns, on 19th. July 1807 at St. Mary Redcliffe Church, Bristol is the correct one, the baptism of a Sarah BRAIN would take you a generation further back. Sarah TOWNSEND, aged 66, of Cock Rd was buried on 13th. October 1850 at Holy Trinity Church, Kingswood so, if her age at death was right, she was born c. 1784. Possible matches could be Sarah BRAIN, aged 1 year, daughter of Samuel and Amy, who was baptized on 16th. January 1785 at Hanham or Sarah BRAIN, daughter of William and Hester, who was baptized on 4th. June 1786 at Hanham. These baptisms are included in the B & A FHS Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols. 8 to 10 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812. www.bafhs.org.uk However, it's also possible that neither of these baptisms is the right one. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

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