Our family had several of these - Coronation 1953 Choc tins = Cadbury's http://www.retonthenet.co.uk/vintage-chocolate-tin-cadburys-cadburys-queen-elizabeth-ii-coronation-souvenir-1953-1315-p.asp there may even be one still somewhere in the family - Mum used them for storing separately different colours of buttons! Jean > From: jstiles2@optusnet.com.au > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:11:39 +1100 > Subject: Re: [B&S] Commemorative Coronation tin [was photo help] > > ? > Many thanks Marion! From your very helpful reply, I have worked out that the > children are holding Fry's Commemorative chocolate tin given out to school > children in Bristol for the coronation of King George V and Queen Mary. I > imagine many of them must have become treasured possessions! An article and > coloured picture of the tin can be seen here > http://www.vanishederas.com/frys-commemorative-chocolate-tin-bristol---coronation-of-george-v-and-queen-mary-1911-7878-p.asp > >From Jenny > > A link to the black and white photo of a group of Bristol children is here > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~becher/clatworthy_family_of_bristol.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marion > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:09 PM > Hi Jenny > > This looks very much like a Coronation commemorative tin, which I think > contained chocolate. They were produced for both the 1902 and 1911 > coronations I think these may have been given out through the schools, as my > grandmother > definitely had one. > > Marion > > > Jenny wrote: > > I have been emailed a charming photograph that was apparently taken in > Bristol, probably Bedminster c1910 of a group of children that include Frank > & Florence Hopkins. The children are all holding the same picture that > appears to be of two oval portraits. > >From Jenny, Sydney, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

?Dear List, I posted recently about my CLATWORTHY family and I am still busy trying to sort out Matilda CLATWORTHY [1874 Bristol]-? and Thomas HOPKINS [1854Bristol-1929Bristol] who married in 1919, but appear to be together in the 1901 Census. Thomas has several children most of whom I cannot find registrations to match their known names, although a registration in 1894 of a William Edward C [latworthy?] HOPKINS may well shed some light on the matter [as Matilda & has been applied for. I have been emailed a charming photograph that was apparently taken in Bristol, probably Bedminster c1910 of a group of children that include Frank & Florence Hopkins. The children are all holding the same picture that appears to be of two oval portraits. I imagine that the photograph must have been taken at an important occasion in Bristol and hoped that some knowledgeable lister might recognise it. I have hosted the photograph here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~becher/clatworthy_family_of_bristol.htm and I would love any feedback on the subject matter. Thank you, >From Jenny, Sydney, Australia My Family History Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm

Hi Jenny This looks very much like a Coronation commemorative tin, which I think contained chocolate. They were produced for both the 1902 and 1911 coronations (an example here http://www.vanishederas.com/ekmps/shops/vanishederas/images/4-153a%5Bekm%5D117x80%5Bekm%5D.jpg) I think these may have been given out through the schools, as my grandmother definitely had one. Marion On 2 February 2011 00:06, Jenny Stiles <jstiles2@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > I have been emailed a charming photograph that was apparently taken in > Bristol, probably Bedminster c1910 of a group of children that include Frank > & Florence Hopkins. The children are all holding the same picture that > appears to be of two oval portraits. I imagine that the photograph must have > been taken at an important occasion in Bristol and hoped that some > knowledgeable lister might recognise it. I have hosted the photograph here > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~becher/clatworthy_family_of_bristol.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Ebecher/clatworthy_family_of_bristol.htm>and I would love any feedback on the subject matter. > > Thank you, > >From Jenny, Sydney, Australia > > My Family History Website: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ebecher/index.htm> > >

My Gt Gt Grandfather, Cap'n Samuel Francis Roberts, a skipper from Bridgwater, had a share in a schooner called Boadicea in the 1860s. I have a nice watercolour painting of it in Marseilles in 1863, which indicates that he went on quite long trips. I have no idea who named the ship, or why this name was chosen, although I've always assumed it was out some sort of Victorian patriotism, at a time when people liked to celebrate Great Britons. ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Day" <ann.day@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [B&S] out of areal ? >I knew I'd heard about this recently > .Wikipedia explains-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica.Then click on > B's name > Boudica has been known by several versions of her name. > "Boadicea" was the most common version of the name, which is probably > derived > from a mistranscription when a manuscript of Tacitus > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus> was copied in the Middle Ages > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages>. > > On 31/01/2011 14:06, G Feltham wrote: >> Boudicca Boudicea Bristol connection " I seen 'e " on the news good >> enough ??? >> >> Grant >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Adrian Sorry cannot help re marriage entry. However there is a George and Harriet Filer living in Bedminster (part of Bristol) in the 1881 census. She is shown as aged 40 and born in Devon. Whereas your Harriet Wilson was born in Bristol 1845. Hope this helps Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "adrianp7" <adrianp7@talktalk.net> To: "BRISTOL & SOMERSET" <BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: [B&S] HESKINS FAMILY - GEORGE FILER & HARRIET WILSON MARRIAGE > The marriage of George FILER and Harriet WILSON was registered in Bristol > during the June quarter of 1878. > > I suspect that Harriet was the sister of William Henry and Thomas Melhuish > WILSON who both married into my HESKINS family. I would appreciate > confirmation, please, if at all possible, that Harriet's father was shown > as > Thomas, a paper maker. > > Adrian > Yorkshire > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just google HMS Boadacia 1797 you should find more information... Cheers, Edna - Ottawa ________________________________ From: Giles <gilesoakley@tiscali.co.uk> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 1:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] out of areal ? My Gt Gt Grandfather, Cap'n Samuel Francis Roberts, a skipper from Bridgwater, had a share in a schooner called Boadicea in the 1860s. I have a nice watercolour painting of it in Marseilles in 1863, which indicates that he went on quite long trips. I have no idea who named the ship, or why this name was chosen, although I've always assumed it was out some sort of Victorian patriotism, at a time when people liked to celebrate Great Britons. ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Day" <ann.day@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [B&S] out of areal ? >I knew I'd heard about this recently > .Wikipedia explains-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica.Then click on > B's name > Boudica has been known by several versions of her name. > "Boadicea" was the most common version of the name, which is probably > derived > from a mistranscription when a manuscript of Tacitus > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus> was copied in the Middle Ages > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages>. > > On 31/01/2011 14:06, G Feltham wrote: >> Boudicca Boudicea Bristol connection " I seen 'e " on the news good >> enough ??? >> >> Grant >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > Here in Australia we were taught to pronounce it Cabo without the T. This was in the 1950's. And we NEVER spelled words like recognise with an ize and still don't. I find it surprising that English teachers in England would teach the American way of spelling. Dallas in warm, humid Brisbane

I knew I'd heard about this recently .Wikipedia explains-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica.Then click on B's name Boudica has been known by several versions of her name. "Boadicea" was the most common version of the name, which is probably derived from a mistranscription when a manuscript of Tacitus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus> was copied in the Middle Ages <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages>. On 31/01/2011 14:06, G Feltham wrote: > Boudicca Boudicea Bristol connection " I seen 'e " on the news good > enough ??? > > Grant > > >

Hello all My wife (who works in this field) tells me that both ise and ize are acceptable. Americans generally use ize and the British generally use ise but not universally; it is a matter of house style and consistency. ize occurs in English from the middle ages onwards (and so was probably taken to America by the early settlers). So Oxford University Press uses ize and so did the London Times until recently. Some verbs, such as advertise and advise, are always spelt with ise, even in America. Adrian O Beckenham, Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dallas Window" <grandally@gmail.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Cc: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:32 AM Subject: [B&S] Cabot >> >> Here in Australia we were taught to pronounce it Cabo without the T. This >> was in the 1950's. And we NEVER spelled words like recognise with an ize >> and still don't. I find it surprising that English teachers in England >> would teach the American way of spelling. > > Dallas in warm, humid Brisbane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for that - It's a good photograph - I have some newspaper accounts of the events and some snapshots which my mother took. It was the Queen Elizabeth section in which she took part - as one of the dancers. She often recounted how at Wembley it poured with rain and the dye ran from their costumes so badly that it stained all their underclothes! She was nearly 14 at the time and it was her first visit to London - all very exciting for her. The Queen was played by a Nancy STEADMAN who can be found on the 1911 census as a 13 year-old living in Clifton. The Pageant had 7 scenes depicting events in Bristol history 1 The re-signing of the Magna Carta, by which took place in Bristol Nov 11th 1216 2 William Canynges in 1461 receiving Edward IV 3 The return of John Cabot in 1497 4 The visit of Queen Elizabeth in 1574 5 The departure of John Guy to Newfoundland in 1610 - the first Governor of Newfoundland 6 The siege of Bristol in 1643 - and the part played by the women of Bristol led by Dorothy Hazard 7 The election of Edmund Burke 1774 Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:52 PM Subject: [B&S] Photograph of Bristol Pageant of 1924 (was Pronunciation of Cabot in Bristol) > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:22 -0000, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> > wrote: > >> In 1924 my mother took part in The Bristol Pageant which was presented in >> Ashton Court and in the then newly opened Wembley Stadium at the Empire >> Exhibition. > > I thought that there would be some photographs of The Bristol Pageant of > 1924 to view, but I've only found one. It's just over half way down the > following page about 'Bristol - 1450 onwards': > > http://www.brisray.com/bristol/bhist4.htm > > The photograph taken at Ashton Court in May 1924 shows a re-enactment of > the procession of Queen Elizabeth I in Bristol. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com >

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:22 -0000, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In 1924 my mother took part in The Bristol Pageant which was presented in > Ashton Court and in the then newly opened Wembley Stadium at the Empire > Exhibition. I thought that there would be some photographs of The Bristol Pageant of 1924 to view, but I've only found one. It's just over half way down the following page about 'Bristol - 1450 onwards': http://www.brisray.com/bristol/bhist4.htm The photograph taken at Ashton Court in May 1924 shows a re-enactment of the procession of Queen Elizabeth I in Bristol. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hello Listers I lived in Kingswood as a child and always pronounced Cabot with a t. Also I was taught to spell recognize, realize and connexion in that manner. I have long since dropped the x from connection for fear of being thought unable to spell. However, I do still slip back into the use of the ize when my concentration slips! Regards Millie

Hi Josephine, Thanks for the link to the trade directories. Unfortunately for me, the directories are either too early or after George was transported. It seems I can't take a trick with this man. regards Janine ---------------------------------------- > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > From: jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:08:06 +0000 > Subject: [B&S] Bristol trade directories > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:45:34 -0000, Janine Gall > wrote: > > > Are there directories for trades in Bristol that are online? > > A transcription of Pigot's Bristol Directory of l830 is online here: > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bristol/Pigot1830.html > > Bristol directories can also be found on the following web site: > > www.historicaldirectories.org > > Select Gloucestershire as the location to see a variety of Gloucestershire > and Bristol directories > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:06:39 -0000, G Feltham <g_feltham@sky.com> wrote: > Boudicca Boudicea Bristol connection " I seen 'e " on the news good > enough ??? Hi Grant, It took me a moment to realize to realize the link with the Ancient British tribe Iceni! But you need a double e on the last word for proper Bristolian:-) Look at Seen in the Dictionary Sampler for S on the following That Be Bristle web page: http://www.thatbebristle.co.uk/dictionary/s.shtml I'm certainly having a smile saying these Bristolian words to myself. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

?Hi Karen, She was registered Jane Emily CLOUTER in Bristol in 1841 to William CLOUTER & Jane [nee RUDMAN]. AS far as I know she was known as Emily, but she may well have had an Eliza phase! Certainly though I have plenty of other occasions when people were known by names other than those they were baptised or registered with. Thank you for your input, >From Jenny My Family History Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: Karen Francis Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:00 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&S] CLATWORTHY 1881 & 1871 Census & Church records Just to add my twopennywoth... Consider these alternatives... Eliza called herself Emily, her husband called her Emily, she had both names (if you have her baptism you may already know this not to be true). I say this because I have similar occurrences in my family. My great grandmother was an Ada Emily but frequently turned up as Ada Amelia. My great grandfather Edwin's eldest son (who was also named Edwin) called himself Edward, presumably to differentiate himself. I think that when people did provide information for these censuses they sometimes put down nicknames etc. Obviously, the enumerator could have just made a mistake too :-) Karen www.the_ridouts.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:14:58 -0000, Janine Gall <janine.gall@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the link to the trade directories. Unfortunately for me, the > directories are either too early or after George was transported. It > seems I can't take a trick with this man. Hi Janine, You could perhaps find out more about where your ancestor lived. You mentioned Blackfriars Road. I don't know of a Blackfriars Road in Bristol in 1841, but I do know of Blackfriars. At that time, Blackfriars was at census reference HO 107/372 Book Number 6 Folio 27-32. If you have access to the 1841 census, you could have a look at Blackfriars to see the families who lived there and to find out the trades of the inhabitants. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:22:25 -0000, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I too, have been "wrestling" with this 1851 census of Eliza GRIFFITHS. Hi Mary Ellen, If this was my family, I would obtain the Bristol marriage certificate of David TOWNSEND in the June quarter of 1851. Hopefully, his bride would turn out to be the Eliza GRIFFITHS, whose marriage was also registered at the same time, and from the certificate her maiden name could be found if she was a widow at the time of marriage. The marriage certificate might also show what her father's name and occupation was, though it might not if she was illegitimate and no father's name was recorded. If you can find out Eliza's maiden name or if she was a widow, her married name, from the marriage certificate, you would be able to look for Eliza and Frederick John, born c. 1840, in the 1841 census. If you find it's not the right marriage certificate, at least you will have left no stone unturned. > Yesterday, I spent a great deal of time in the English census. I don't have access to the censuses so what is the age and birthplace of Eliza in the 1861 census? It's a long shot, but if you let the list know this, the baptism of an Eliza of the right age might be tracked down. There are a number of baptism records online, now, so a match could be made. > I have begun to think that Eliza GRIFFITH is wife #2 but where was Wm. > between 1845 and 1861 when he shows up in the census with his father. > Could not locate him in 1851. I looked in two 1851 census transcriptions, one produced by Gordon Beavington and the other by Gloucestershire Family History Society, but I couldn't see him. A TOWNSEND family from Bitton, who were also coach makers, were in Derby at the time of the 1881 census. I suspect that the William TOWNSEND, shown as being born c. 1844, in the 1881 Derby census, was the William TOWNSEND whose birth was registered in Keynsham in the March quarter of 1844. Keynsham was the registration district for the Bitton area. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:22 -0000, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I remember on the walls of my School (Merrywood) we had a copy of the > painting by Ernest Board of John & Sebastian Cabot leaving Bristol in > the Matthew. Thanks for mentioning this painting, Pat. Of course, I had to go and have a look for it. Putting "Ernest Board""Cabot" into Google brings up some sites showing the 1906 painting of The Departure of John and Sebastian Cabot from Bristol on their First Voyage of Discovery in 1497. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Josephine, Thanks for explaining the marriage act, it sounds like it would be worth getting a copy of the marriage in London, even if it is to prove it one way or the other. This family certainly have been very elusive. regards Janine ---------------------------------------- > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > From: jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:09:54 +0000 > Subject: [B&S] Marriage records and Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 ( was HOOPER, CLARKE & ULEY)‏ > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:17:54 -0000, Janine Gall > wrote: > > > The birth you found of Hannah Uley, in Winterbourne, is about the right > > age to be the Hannah Uley I found who married a William Clark on 16 > > October 1825 but in St. Augustine Watling Street Church, London. Did > > mariage records have much info on them at this time? Would it have if > > Hannah and William were of that parish? But it seems a long way to go > > from Bristol to marry and if Hannah was baptised Methodist would she be > > marrying in an Anglican Church? On the other hand this marriage fits in > > with the birth of William Uley Clarke in St. James Church, Bristol. > > Hi Janine, > > Marriage records could include whether the groom was a bachelor or a > widower and whether the bride was a spinster or a widow. The name of the > parish of the groom or bride could be included if it was not the same > parish where the marriage took place. However, in Bristol, couples were > often recorded as being 'of the parish', when they came from other > parishes outside the city. Other information, in marriage records, > included the names of the witnesses. > > After Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753, which came into force on 25th. > March 1754, only Church of England marriages and those of Jews and Quakers > were legal. Even if someone had a Methodist baptism, they would have > married in an Anglican church. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just to add my 2 pennyworth! I was also brought up in Bristol and always pronounced the T. I remember on the walls of my School (Merrywood) we had a copy of the painting by Ernest Board of John & Sebastian Cabot leaving Bristol in the Matthew. I don't remember ever being told to pronounce it as Cabo' as a child In 1924 my mother took part in The Bristol Pageant which was presented in Ashton Court and in the then newly opened Wembley Stadium at the Empire Exhibition. I have a copy of the original programme which also contains a print of the same painting - the 3rd scene of the Pageant depicted the return of John Cabot to Bristol - in recounting her experiences my mother also pronounced Cabot with a T - so presumably it was said that way in that production as well. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Pronunciation of Cabot in Bristol > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:38:04 -0000, Maureen Carroll <maureen2@primus.ca> > wrote: > >> I grew up in Bristol and it was always Cabot - my son in law is a >> "Newfie" and checking with him I find that Newfoundlanders also call him >> Cabot with the T. > > Thanks for your response, Maureen. It looks like Polly and I are in the > minority having grown up with the pronunciation Cabo'. I never gave it a > thought until yesterday, when relatives were discussing their visit to the > shopping centre at Cabot Circus in Bristol and pronounced it as Cabot with > a t. > > Well, I certainly learn something new everyday:-) > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com