Hello, It seems that all the transcriptions for Bristol have been lumped in to the same church, not just St Philip and Jacob. Also can anyone explain why I have found 2 burials for the same person on the IGI site with different film numbers: Name: Ann Maria Fear Sage Event: BURIAL Event Date: 21 Sep 1901 Event Place: Redland, Gloucestershire, England Gender: Age: 73 Christening Date: Marriage Date: Marital Status: Burial Date: Father: Mother: Spouse: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father: Spouse's Mother: Film Number: 4185521 Digital Folder Number: 4185521 Image Number: 00033 Name: Ann Maria Fear Sage Event: BURIAL Event Date: 21 Sep 1901 Event Place: Redland, Gloucestershire, England Gender: Female Age: 73 Christening Date: Marriage Date: Marital Status: Burial Date: Father: Mother: Spouse: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father: Spouse's Mother: Film Number: 4185524 Digital Folder Number: 4185524 Image Number: 00034 Karen Lyon, France

Thanks for the info Polly. Unfortunately Family Search Library Catalogue does not recognise the film numbers displayed in Family Search search results! Looking at the Family Search Catalogue for Bristol records most of the parish register film numbers are 7 digit mostly starting "15" or "17" where as the films mentioned in the new Family Search results all start with "4" so are different films. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Polly Rubery Sent: 10 February 2011 11:04 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] Problem with NEW Bristol Parish Records on Family Search Chris Just look for the film number on the FHL catalogue, also available via FamilySearch. Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [B&S] Problem with NEW Bristol Parish Records on Family Search It is difficult to be exact so soon after finding the problem but I don't think ALL the new batch of records have been wrongly assigned to Abbots Leigh just a very high proportion. There may be a way to find out what the correct parish should be as each entry in Family Search has a "Film Number". Is there a site somewhere which enables you to match LDS film numbers to particular parish registers? If this works it would be a short term fix to the problem! Some areas have done a list of the of films against parishes on Genuki but I cannot find anything for the Bristol area. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3433 - Release Date: 02/09/11

I have just discovered the burials of my x times great Aunt and Uncle Henry and Eliza BOND in 1894 and 1884 respectively on the "new" LDS family search web-site. Unfortunately, I have been unable to determine whether the burials were in a civil cemetery or a church/chapel. I appreciate that by that time, many church/chapel cemeteries were no longer in use and it is quite possible that the burial services took place in a church/chapel and the actual burials were elsewhere. I would appriciate guidance on the Baptist Mills situation in the years of 1884 and 1894. Adrian Yorkshire

Chris Just look for the film number on the FHL catalogue, also available via FamilySearch. Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [B&S] Problem with NEW Bristol Parish Records on Family Search It is difficult to be exact so soon after finding the problem but I don't think ALL the new batch of records have been wrongly assigned to Abbots Leigh just a very high proportion. There may be a way to find out what the correct parish should be as each entry in Family Search has a "Film Number". Is there a site somewhere which enables you to match LDS film numbers to particular parish registers? If this works it would be a short term fix to the problem! Some areas have done a list of the of films against parishes on Genuki but I cannot find anything for the Bristol area. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is difficult to be exact so soon after finding the problem but I don't think ALL the new batch of records have been wrongly assigned to Abbots Leigh just a very high proportion. There may be a way to find out what the correct parish should be as each entry in Family Search has a "Film Number". Is there a site somewhere which enables you to match LDS film numbers to particular parish registers? If this works it would be a short term fix to the problem! Some areas have done a list of the of films against parishes on Genuki but I cannot find anything for the Bristol area. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

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I have taken "advantage" of the incorrect place name to isolate the newest added records for my family. In FamilySearch I did an Advanced Search, using the exact place name "Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity), Somersetshire, England", and my surnames of interest. These are most probably the newest additions to the Bristol database, and therefore I don't have to search through all of the records that I found since my last search of the Bristol records. I discovered several new events, and confirmed several others. Of course, I know the _place_ is most probably incorrect, but at least I have the events, names & dates. Kathleen Craine Chicago Researching: SNARY and SPRATT in Bristol ----- Original Message ----- I have reported the problem to Family Search where many of the latest 300,000 Bristol Parish records added last week as part of the Indexing Project have the parish incorrectly set to Abbots Leigh. Chris Jefferies

If there is no charge, why then all the complaints???? Tom On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:47:15 +1000, Lyn wrote: >Hi Tom > >I don't believe the LDS charge anything to view their site - I have never >paid at their centres either except to order a film or for a >photocopy/print. > >Regards > >Lyn >In Oz. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of Tom Perrett >> Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 3:31 PM >> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project >> >> Yes, it is absolutely terrible considering how much they charge. >> >> Tom >> > Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett

This is not the only problem - Marriages in Ditcheat have been attributed to Curry Rivel on this site. This has also been reported along with other anomalies. Yes, this will probably be corrected in time BUT not before unsuspecting researchers have added this faulty information to their family trees which are published online and confuse future researchers who do not check transcriptions against original records. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com>; <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: [B&S] Problem with Bristol Parish Records on Family Search >I have reported the problem to Family Search where many of the latest > 300,000 Bristol Parish records added last week as part of the Indexing > Project have the parish incorrectly set to Abbots Leigh. > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > >

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:16:39 -0000, Susan Moziar <smoziar@rogers.com> wrote: > Bernice, > > I am glad you mentioned that I was just about to post and say that my 3 > gxg > grandmother Rosannah LANSDOWN who married Joseph GREENLAND was married: > Event Date: 11 Sep 1815 > Event Place: Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity), Somersetshire, England > Yet I distinctly remember Josephine looking this up and the place was St. > Nicholas, Bristol. So what's the explanation? Hi Susan, I've just checked on the B & A FHS Marriage Index 1813-1837 and the marriage did take place at the church of St. Nicholas in Bristol as I originally wrote. Thought I'd better check on it, though:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I think people are getting confused with FamilySearch.. There is the original website, but they now have a new website (same address). It has overtaken the pilot project. It's still possible to go back to the old website with the old IGI. Searching is tricky on their new site but searchers have access to a range of records, and sometimes images.. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "argus" <jocath@upnaway.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Moziar > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:58 AM > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > Edna, > I can't complain after finding the record I wanted in Bristol. Now if > they > would just get the actual images ...... > > Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: liverpud > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:23 AM > To: Bristol-Somerset List > Subject: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > > The LDS are working on a pilot project. > Not too impressed so far.... > > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 5857 (20110208) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think people are getting confused with FamilySearch.. There is the original website, but they now have a new website (same address). It has overtaken the pilot project. It's still possible to go back to the old website with the old IGI. Searching is tricky on their new site but searchers have access to a range of records, and sometimes images.. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "argus" <jocath@upnaway.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Moziar > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:58 AM > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > Edna, > I can't complain after finding the record I wanted in Bristol. Now if > they > would just get the actual images ...... > > Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: liverpud > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:23 AM > To: Bristol-Somerset List > Subject: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > > The LDS are working on a pilot project. > Not too impressed so far.... > > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 5857 (20110208) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:23:34 -0000, Chris Jefferies <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Josephine > The first batch were mainly around the city but this next batch has > included some south Gloucestershire parishes. I found lots of family in > the new batch but thought it very odd that so many who lived to the east > of the city would go to a parish church the opposite side of the city. I > was having difficulty finding something more specific than an event that > happened in Abbots Leigh would not have been registered in Keynsham > District. Hi Chris, I've just looked for my HAYMAN family, who lived in Oldland/Longwell Green, South Gloucestershire and their events are recorded in Abbots Leigh, too, on the new site. However, I've just spotted an 1850 HAYMAN burial in the Abbots Leigh records, which may be burial of my 4x great-grandmother in Pip & Jay so the cloud still has a little bit of a silver lining and I expect these things will be put right in due course. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Tom I don't believe the LDS charge anything to view their site - I have never paid at their centres either except to order a film or for a photocopy/print. Regards Lyn In Oz. > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Tom Perrett > Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 3:31 PM > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > Yes, it is absolutely terrible considering how much they charge. > > Tom >

I've been enjoying using both of the familysearch sites, which have been mentioned recently. I wasn't able to look at sites, such as these, on my ancient computer, so the information I'm finding is new to me. When I think back to the time, when I only had three counties of the 1881 census on microfiche and later Gordon Beavington's 1851 transcriptions of the Bristol, Somerset and Gloucestershire censuses, I think how fortunate I am to have so many family history resources at my fingertips, now. My poor husband hardly gets a look in at his computer these days as there are so many fascinating things for me to discover on it:-) -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Josephine The first batch were mainly around the city but this next batch has included some south Gloucestershire parishes. I found lots of family in the new batch but thought it very odd that so many who lived to the east of the city would go to a parish church the opposite side of the city. I was having difficulty finding something more specific than an event that happened in Abbots Leigh would not have been registered in Keynsham District. At this point I had an email from Bernice saying that all the Birth Marriage & Burials records for St Philip & Jacob have been incorrectly listed as Abbots Leigh so I knew my suspicions were correct. She assumed it was a transcription error but the parish name is not entered by the transcriber but it should be pre set for the particular register transcription by Family Search. When the images where being prepared for transcription at Family Search they would be associated with a particular parish. I can imagine someone is supposed to select the parish from a list of Bristol Parish names where Abbots Leigh is the first alphabetically so is the default, but someone has just pressed the return key instead of selecting the correct parish! So I suspect its more than just the wrong Holy Trinity Church being selected. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 09 February 2011 16:14 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] More NEW Bristol Parish Registers in Family Search PROBLEM!! On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:51:44 -0000, Chris Jefferies <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > There is a problem with many of the Bristol Parish records recently  > added to Family Search. There are just too many entries for as small  > place like > Abbots Leigh!! It looks as if most of the new records have been  > incorrectly set to Abbots Leigh Holy Trinity). Every cloud has a silver lining, Chris:-) I've just looked at the new search and I've found that the 1859 baptism of my great-grandmother, Rhoda GROVES, daughter of Charles and Sarah Ann, has been recorded as Holy Trinity, Abbots Leigh, when I suspect that it took place in Holy Trinity, St. Philip's, Bristol. But I didn't have the date of this baptism before, so I'm pleased. I have also found the baptisms of Rhoda's brother Charles, in 1856, and her sister, Sarah Ann in 1872, recorded in Holy Trinity, Abbots Leigh, which I'm going to note as Holy Trinity, St. Philip's for now. The GROVES family lived in St. Philip's and I know that Holy Trinity Church, St. Philip's later featured in many family events. So I have discovered three new baptisms, today, for my GROVES family, and that's good even if there is a question mark over the church. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3431 - Release Date: 02/08/11

Thanks to Sandra,Chris, Jean et al who replied re above mgs, a lot of delving to do. cheers BrYan

Yes, it is absolutely terrible considering how much they charge. Tom On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:04:23 -0000, adrianp7 wrote: > I have just carried out a search for my forebear Sarah POTHACARY. It just >comes up with very limited information from the 1861 census without even >showing where she was or who she was with!!! Poor. > >Adrian >Yorkshire > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "liverpud" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> >To: "Bristol-Somerset List" <Bristol_and_Somerset@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:23 PM >Subject: [B&S] LDS Family Search pilot project > > >> >> The LDS are working on a pilot project. >> Not too impressed so far.... >> >> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html >> >> Edna - Ottawa > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:51:44 -0000, Chris Jefferies <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > There is a problem with many of the Bristol Parish records recently > added to Family Search. There are just too many entries for as small > place like > Abbots Leigh!! It looks as if most of the new records have been > incorrectly set to Abbots Leigh Holy Trinity). Every cloud has a silver lining, Chris:-) I've just looked at the new search and I've found that the 1859 baptism of my great-grandmother, Rhoda GROVES, daughter of Charles and Sarah Ann, has been recorded as Holy Trinity, Abbots Leigh, when I suspect that it took place in Holy Trinity, St. Philip's, Bristol. But I didn't have the date of this baptism before, so I'm pleased. I have also found the baptisms of Rhoda's brother Charles, in 1856, and her sister, Sarah Ann in 1872, recorded in Holy Trinity, Abbots Leigh, which I'm going to note as Holy Trinity, St. Philip's for now. The GROVES family lived in St. Philip's and I know that Holy Trinity Church, St. Philip's later featured in many family events. So I have discovered three new baptisms, today, for my GROVES family, and that's good even if there is a question mark over the church. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I have reported the problem to Family Search where many of the latest 300,000 Bristol Parish records added last week as part of the Indexing Project have the parish incorrectly set to Abbots Leigh. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos