Hi List, I won two tickets to WDYTYA but am unable to go now due to relatives visiting (it's the end of the half-term for us). Is there anyone on the list who can make use of them? It's on 25-27th Feb at the Olympia in London. All I ask is that if someone is interested, please visit stand 628 (Family Tree mag) and say hi in my place! I can post them off first class. Thanks Sharon “Poetry and Hums aren't things which you get, they're things which get you. And all you can do is go where they can find you.” Winnie the Pooh

A Gazette article featuring Acton Court, Iron Acton, led me to finding about more about this Tudor property, which has now been relisted as Grade I. http://www.gazetteseries.co.uk/news/8862902.Tudor_manor_house_wins_Grade_I_listing/ I found an interesting web site about Acton Court here: http://www.actoncourt.com/ On the first page, there's a picture of the Tudor property, which was built by Nicholas Poyntz and visited by Henry VIII. There are some fascinating pages on the Acton Court web site, which feature the history of the house: http://www.actoncourt.com/history/index.html Some discoveries thought to be associated with the visit of Henry VIII, including the king's garderobe or privy, have been made: http://www.actoncourt.com/history/index2.html A gallery of photographs includes pre-restoration photographs http://www.actoncourt.com/archive_gallery/pre-restoration/index.htm and the house and grounds http://www.actoncourt.com/archive_gallery/house-and-grounds/index.htm I know that there is one list member interested in the Tudor period, who is likely to enjoy these pages and I hope that others will too. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:39:17 -0000, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote: > You're not wrong; Many of my wife's forebears lived and worked in the > area. Hi Brad, I know that you have the death of your wife's Somerset ancestor, Joseph BALMOND, which was on 21st. January 1870 at Trevethin, but I wonder if you have the date and place of his burial. If not, here it is: Joseph BALMOND, aged 82, of Varteg was buried on 3rd. February 1870 at St. Thomas, Talywain (Abersychan), Monmouthshire. Information from: TALYWAIN & ABERSYCHAN St Thomas Register of Burials 1835-1895 Transcribed by Ben Fieldhouse Booklet by Bob & Jackie Dunn Pontypool Branch of Gwent Family History Society Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:57:00 -0000, Tony Evans <anthonyevans@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Yes Josephine, there definately is a lot of instances of Bristol and > Somerset families living and working in Sth Wales. > My Brother in laws family of Purnell also moved to Trevethin. > Places I would probably have known nothing about if not for Genealogy. Hi Tony, Yes, I would not have known about the parish of Trevithin, which included Abersychan, Pontnewydd and Pontypool, if I hadn't become interested in researching my husband's and my family history. When we were younger, we often passed by Pontypool, on our way to the Monmouthshire & Brecon Canal, little realizing that members of our Somerset and South Gloucestershire families once lived in the area. Ian's PURNELL family moved to Trevethin from Clutton in Somerset. At the time of the 1881 census, coal miner, George PURNELL, 64, and his wife, Harriet, 67, were living at 42 High Street in the parish of Trevethin, Monmouthshire. Both were recorded as being born in Clutton. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:40:16 -0000 "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: Hello Josephine, > mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have > ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. You're not wrong; Many of my wife's forebears lived and worked in the area. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days Bombsite Boy - The Adverts

If anyone wants to know more about Cheddar Man there is a book: In Search of Cheddar Man (1999) by Larry Barham, Philip Priestley and Adrian Targett -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, > thought this site might be interesting: > > Industrialisation of south Wales. > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm The site Edna has given has reference to Risca in Monmouthshire, where there was an explosion at Black Vein Colliery in 1860. On this occasion 142 men and boys died at Black Vein Colliery and among them were men from Somerset such as Issac Sage, aged 32, Joseph JACQUEY or JACKWAY, aged 20, and James PLUMBER alias ASHMAN. Also said to be from Somerset were John WEST, aged 24, Joseph WEST, aged 13, and Fred GULLICK. Sadly, there were boys who died in the explosion who were even younger than Joseph WEST. One was only 10, while three were 11 and three were 12. However, I don't know whether these boys were from Somerset families. Those who died in the Black Vein disaster are listed in the booklet "and they work us to death" Volume 1 Casualties of the Mines Who they were,How and Where they died by Ben Fieldhouse and Jackie Dunn (Gwent Family History Society). -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, > thought this site might be interesting: > > Industrialisation of south Wales. > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. > Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I was thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in Monmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with Monmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & S list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I was also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in the coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned out that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great grandfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a coal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for Bargoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol family once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list members and their families:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I've been having a look at some of the web pages, which mention the link between Cheddar Man and a local history teacher. Here's one from The Independent, which is entitled The family link that reaches back 300 generations to a Cheddar cave http://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-family-link-that-reaches-back-300-generations-to-a-cheddar-cave-1271542.html A rare family album is the title of an article on this web page from this is Somerset: http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/news/rare-family-album/article-654999-detail/article.html -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

My Gr-grandfather John Charles Worth (1830-1897) of Bristol worked in Wales for several years. Not sure exactly where he worked in Wales but in 1876, The Pontypool Iron & Tinplate Company Ltd. had two sites -- Osborne Rd. Pontypool & Pontmoel. The Pontypool Town Forge operated at the rear of Osborne Rd. alongside the Afon Llwyd River. The records do show he worked there as per the 1871 Census for Abersychan, Trevethin, Wales & the family were still living there in 1873. He worked as a Clerk, at the British Iron Works, Abersychan. On the death cert. of young son, William John, 3 November 1873, and buried St. Thomas, Talywain, it actually stated he was a Clerk at Iron Works. 1881 Census, they were back in Bristol at 1 Easton Parade. Later in life he owned a News Agent shop in Fishponds, Bristol. Edna - Ottawa

My ancestors came from Bristol to Trevethin also in the 1850's not sure when exactly. But by great grandfather was born in Pontypool and we still live here !! Sandra Gage -----Original Message----- From: liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com; JoJeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Sent: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:31 Subject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales (Industrialisation of South Wales) Thanks Josephine for thinking of our families with Welsh connections. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> o: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:40 PM ubject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales Industrialisation of South Wales) n Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> rote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, thought this site might be interesting: Industrialisation of south Wales. http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I as thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in onmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with onmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to ind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ncestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I as also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in he coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned ut that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great randfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a oal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for argoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol amily once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list embers and their families:-) Josephine -- osephine Jeremiah ww.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thanks Josephine for thinking of our families with Welsh connections. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: [B&S] List members' families who went to South Wales (Industrialisation of South Wales) On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:01:05 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, > thought this site might be interesting: > > Industrialisation of south Wales. > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm > Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. > Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Thank you, for this site, Edna. I was in South Wales today and, when I was passing through Pontypool, I was thinking of you and of your relatives who went to Abersychan in Monmouthshire, as Abersychan is not far from Pontypool. Somerset relatives in both Ian's and my family trees had associations with Monmouthshire, too, and the parish of Trevethin immediately springs to mind. I expect a number of Bristol_and_Somerset list members have ancestors with links to the parish of Trevethin as well. As I travel through places I often associate them with the families of B & S list members with whom I have corresponded over the years. Today as I was travelling along a little way along the Rhymney Valley, I was also thinking of Heather whose husband's HASKINS relatives lived in the coal mining village of Llanbradach, Glamorgan at one time. It turned out that one of the HASKINS family was the nephew of my 2x great grandfather, John HANCOCK, from OLdland, Gloucestershire, who died in a coal pit accident in Blaina, Monmouthshire in December 1869. While on the new road passing 'the Brad'(Llanbradach), I saw a sign for Bargoed and I thought of B & S list member, Patricia, whose Bristol family once lived there. So while I am out and about and not posting I am still thinking of list members and their families:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I didn't see the Breakfast programme, but I would have thought that the presenter's surprise at people living in the locality today having the same DNA as Cheddar Man would arise from amazement that there would be genetic continuity in one place over so many centuries, rather than surprise that we are all descended from ancient folk. After all, if Cheddar Man's DNA points to a Middle Eastern origin, which suggests considerable movement over time, why would one expect to find his direct descendants still living there today? I don't even live where my parents lived, nor where my grandparents lived, or my great grandparents, or great great grandparents, let alone anyone from thousands of years ago.To me it's mind-boggling that descendants of Cheddar Man are still to be found there. He must have been a helluva Big Cheese! Giles Oakley ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ritchings" <johnr@stnectan.demon.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:13 AM Subject: [B&S] Cheddar Man > Greetings > > On the same Breakfast programme one of the presenters expressed great > surprise that people living in the locality of where Cheddar man was found > had the same mtDNA as he did. Why is this so surprising? Everyone of us > alive today had an ancestor living at the time of Cheddar man. If that > were not the case, we would not be here! Tests had shown that he was > haplogroup U which appears to have been of Middle Eastern origin. > >>From where does the BBC believe that our DNA arises if not from our >>ancestors? It is this very fact that allows genetic genealogy to trace >>our deep ancestry. The same surprise has previously been registered by >>the BBC for other similar examples. > > Regrettably I cannot claim any relationship to Cheddar man as I am mtDNA > haplogroup H. > > Regards > > > > John > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:48:14 -0000 > From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [B&S] Sculls in Gough's Cave, Cheddar, Somerset -- BBC news > article > To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.vq1heo0x42w82j@glasydorlan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > This morning, on the BBC News, I caught the tail end of a feature on > Cheddar Caves. > > Afterwards, I found a BBC news article on sculls, in Gough's Cave, > Cheddar, which could once have been used as drinking cups. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12478115 > > At the end of the television feature Cheddar Man was mentioned. > > I see that there is a BBC article on Cheddar Man here: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/somerset/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9392000/9392086.stm > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Since many of our families had strong connection to Wales, thought this site might be interesting: Industrialisation of south Wales. http://www.data-wales.co.uk/valley1.htm Some of my family had considerable contact with Wales. Some stayed on and others came back to their counties. Edna - Ottawa

Greetings On the same Breakfast programme one of the presenters expressed great surprise that people living in the locality of where Cheddar man was found had the same mtDNA as he did. Why is this so surprising? Everyone of us alive today had an ancestor living at the time of Cheddar man. If that were not the case, we would not be here! Tests had shown that he was haplogroup U which appears to have been of Middle Eastern origin. >From where does the BBC believe that our DNA arises if not from our ancestors? It is this very fact that allows genetic genealogy to trace our deep ancestry. The same surprise has previously been registered by the BBC for other similar examples. Regrettably I cannot claim any relationship to Cheddar man as I am mtDNA haplogroup H. Regards John Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:48:14 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Sculls in Gough's Cave, Cheddar, Somerset -- BBC news article To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vq1heo0x42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes This morning, on the BBC News, I caught the tail end of a feature on Cheddar Caves. Afterwards, I found a BBC news article on sculls, in Gough's Cave, Cheddar, which could once have been used as drinking cups. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12478115 At the end of the television feature Cheddar Man was mentioned. I see that there is a BBC article on Cheddar Man here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/somerset/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9392000/9392086.stm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

This morning, on the BBC News, I caught the tail end of a feature on Cheddar Caves. Afterwards, I found a BBC news article on sculls, in Gough's Cave, Cheddar, which could once have been used as drinking cups. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12478115 At the end of the television feature Cheddar Man was mentioned. I see that there is a BBC article on Cheddar Man here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/somerset/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9392000/9392086.stm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I did take a photo of the fountain at St. John's Gate, Bristol (June 6, 2004) Actually I never had heard of it until Charlie took me by the arm and we trotted down to view it. Nice memories.... Edna - (;-))ttawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:33 PM Subject: [B&S] St. John's Conduit (Fountain St. John's Gate Bristol) On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:28:01 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > I remember well visiting the fountain just off Broad St. > with my newly found cousin, C. O. Worth, in June 2004. Hi Edna, In case you don't already have it, a captioned photograph of St. John's Conduit in Nelson Street, near Broad Street, is here: http://www.ukattraction.com/west-country/st-johns-conduit.htm When I was a child, I often passed St. John's Conduit and my Mum would tell me how it was a source of water in central Bristol during the blitz. I knew what the blitz was, from an early age, because the city's ruins were a fact of life. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:28:01 -0000, liverpud <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > I remember well visiting the fountain just off Broad St. > with my newly found cousin, C. O. Worth, in June 2004. Hi Edna, In case you don't already have it, a captioned photograph of St. John's Conduit in Nelson Street, near Broad Street, is here: http://www.ukattraction.com/west-country/st-johns-conduit.htm When I was a child, I often passed St. John's Conduit and my Mum would tell me how it was a source of water in central Bristol during the blitz. I knew what the blitz was, from an early age, because the city's ruins were a fact of life. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I remember well visiting the fountain just off Broad St. with my newly found cousin, C. O. Worth, in June 2004. What a lovely day that was... (;-)) Edna - Ottawa

There is an article about Jacob's Well, Hotwells, Bristol in the BBC News: Bristol firm applies for historic well licence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12446588 More information about Jacob's Well is on the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob's_Well,_Bristol -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com