Hi Josephine Whilst looking through Brit- Gen I came across this submission for Luton or Lewton as George was born Bitton It might be worth looking. http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php/65529-LUTON-LEWTON-family-in-Gloucestershire Regards Tony

Josephine: 1841 census, Bitton District 7 page 10 Hamlet of Oldland, Parish Bitton, Kingswood Hill all born in district George Lewton 45 Clock m Susanna 50 Mary 20 dyer Richard 15 clock m George 15 Clock M (if that is ditto) Ann 14 Catherine 13 Fanny 11 Samuel 10 Regards, Sylvia Hi Listers, A family with the surname LEWTON was living at Kingswood Hill at the time of the 1851 Oldland census. Piece 1944 Folio 0314 Schedule 062 George LEWTON, head, 59, clock maker, born Bitton Susannah LEWTON, wife, 53, born Bitton Fanny LEWTON, daughter, 21, sempstress, born Bitton Samuel LEWTON, son, 18, clock maker, born Bitton Can anyone find this family in the 1841 census, please? They could be in the 1841 census under the surname LEWTON or BRAIN and I would think that they would be living in the same place, Kingswood Hill. I would be grateful, too, for the 1841 census reference. Josephine --

Hi Listers, Here's some background to my 1841 census request, earlier today, for the family of George LEWTON, clock maker. The information on baptisms and marriages has been found in the excellent B & A FHS resources. www.bafhs.org.uk It appears that members of the family were being recorded as BRAIN in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, but later in the 19th century some members were using the surname LEWTON. George BRAIN, son of Richard and Ann, was baptized on 1st January 1792 at Hanham. Samuel BRAIN, son of Richard and Ann, was baptized on 6th. September 1795 at Hanham, GLS. Both George and Samuel BRAIN used the surname BRAIN when they married. George BRAIN and Frances HOWSE were married on 10th. September 1818 at St. Paul's Church, Portland Square, Bristol. Samuel BRAIN, bachelor of Bitton, and Ann WILKINS, spinster of Siston, were married, by banns, on 16th. February 1819 at Siston, GLS. Both George and Samuel used the surname BRAIN when their children were baptized at Oldland, GLS. Their elder children weren't given the middle name of Lewton, but some of their younger children were given this middle name. George and Samuel BRAIN, had their eldest children, Mary and Edwin, baptized on the same day at the same church. Mary BRAIN, aged 5 months, daughter of George and Frances, was baptized on 21st. November 1819 at Oldland. Abode was Kingswood Hill and father's occupation was clock maker. Edwin BRAIN, aged 9 weeks, son of Samuel and Ann, was baptized on 21st. November 1819 at Oldland, Gloucestershire. Abode was Oldland Common and father's occupation was cordwainer. Other children of George and Frances BRAIN, who were baptized at Oldland included: Sarah BRAIN, aged 3 months, baptized on 8th. April 1821. Richard Luton BRAIN, baptized on 22nd. June 1823. George, aged 7 months, baptized on 10th. October 1824. Catherine Lewton BRAIN, baptized on 18th. May 1828. Ann Lewton BRAIN, baptized on 18th. May 1828. All the baptisms, except Richard's, have the abode as Kingswood Hill. At Richard's baptism, the abode was Kingswood. Father's occupation was recorded as clock maker at all the baptisms. Fanny BRAIN, daughter of George and Frances, was baptized on 14th. March 1830 at Holy Trinity Church, Kingswood. Abode was Kingswood Hill and father's occupation was clock maker. Frances BRAIN, aged 31 of Kingswood Hill, was buried on 7th. March 1830 at Holy Trinity, Kingswood. George BRAIN remarried the next year. George BRAIN and Susanna STONE were married, by banns, on 17th. January 1831 at Temple Church, Bristol. Samuel BRAIN, the son of George and Susanna, was baptized on 12th. August 1832 at Holy Trinity, Kingswood. Abode was Kingswood Hill and father's occupation was clock maker. By the time of the 1841 census, both the brothers George BRAIN, clock maker, and Samuel BRAIN, cordwainer, had changed their surnames to LEWTON. George and his family were still at Kingswood Hill, while Samuel and his family were living in Maesteg, Glamorgan in 1841. I don't know why the brothers changed their surname from BRAIN to LEWTON. Josephine --

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:06:36 +0100, Perry Vincent <[email protected]> wrote: > 1841 census > Kingswood Hill > > George LEWTON 45 Clockmaker > Susanna LEWTON 50 > Mary LEWTON 20 Dyer > Richard LEWTON 15 Clockmaker > George LEWTON 15 > Ann LEWTON 14 > Catharine LEWTON 13 > Fanny LEWTON 11 > Samuel LEWTON 10 > > Piece: 361 > Book: 16 > Folio: 7 > Page Number: 10 Hi Perry, Thank you very much for such a prompt response! George LEWTON, the clockmaker, was using the surname BRAIN when he married in 1818 and when he married for a second time in 1831. In the 1820s, some of his children were given the middle name Lewton at their baptisms. At the 1832 baptism of the youngest son, Samuel, at Holy Trinity, Kingswood, the surname BRAIN was still being used. But for some reason by the 1841 census, both George and his younger brother, Samuel, who was living in Glamorgan, by then, were using the surname LEWTON. A very interesting family. You have added another piece to the puzzle by supplying the 1841 census details. Josephine --

Hello Josephine, 1841 census Kingswood Hill George LEWTON 45 Clockmaker Susanna LEWTON 50 Mary LEWTON 20 Dyer Richard LEWTON 15 Clockmaker George LEWTON 15 Ann LEWTON 14 Catharine LEWTON 13 Fanny LEWTON 11 Samuel LEWTON 10 Piece: 361 Book: 16 Folio: 7 Page Number: 10 Best wishes Perry -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [B&S] LEWTON or BRAIN family, Kingswood Hill, GLS, 1841 census look up, please Hi Listers, A family with the surname LEWTON was living at Kingswood Hill at the time of the 1851 Oldland census. Piece 1944 Folio 0314 Schedule 062 George LEWTON, head, 59, clock maker, born Bitton Susannah LEWTON, wife, 53, born Bitton Fanny LEWTON, daughter, 21, sempstress, born Bitton Samuel LEWTON, son, 18, clock maker, born Bitton Can anyone find this family in the 1841 census, please? They could be in the 1841 census under the surname LEWTON or BRAIN and I would think that they would be living in the same place, Kingswood Hill. I would be grateful, too, for the 1841 census reference. Josephine -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, A family with the surname LEWTON was living at Kingswood Hill at the time of the 1851 Oldland census. Piece 1944 Folio 0314 Schedule 062 George LEWTON, head, 59, clock maker, born Bitton Susannah LEWTON, wife, 53, born Bitton Fanny LEWTON, daughter, 21, sempstress, born Bitton Samuel LEWTON, son, 18, clock maker, born Bitton Can anyone find this family in the 1841 census, please? They could be in the 1841 census under the surname LEWTON or BRAIN and I would think that they would be living in the same place, Kingswood Hill. I would be grateful, too, for the 1841 census reference. Josephine --

I have most of the Godfrey maps which cover Bristol and keep an eye on their web site for new ones. It must be a year since I last looked as I missed both the Staple Hill and Kingswood maps. However I was just about to order both when I realised that both are already available on line for free from the city council! The added advantage is that you get the full 25in:mile resolution where as the Godfrey maps are shrunk to 15in:mile. On the other hand the on line maps have been well used so you can see repairs and other marks where as the Godfrey maps have been edited to remove blemishes and to give a white background. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 23 July 2012 13:38 To: [email protected] Subject: [B&S] New Godfrey Edition map entitled "Bristol (Staple Hill) 1902" Hi Listers, While I was looking at the new B & A FHS resources on http://www.bafhs.org.uk/bafhs-shop I noticed that there is a new Godfrey Edition map entitled "Bristol (Staple Hill) 1902". This map sounds interesting. My grandmother lived in Bath Street, Staple Hill in 1901 so I expect that the 1902 map shows places that she would have been familiar with in her childhood. Josephine -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, While I was looking at the new B & A FHS resources on http://www.bafhs.org.uk/bafhs-shop I noticed that there is a new Godfrey Edition map entitled "Bristol (Staple Hill) 1902". This map sounds interesting. My grandmother lived in Bath Street, Staple Hill in 1901 so I expect that the 1902 map shows places that she would have been familiar with in her childhood. Josephine --

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:40:57 +0100, Dave Napier <[email protected]> wrote: > Bristol & Avon Family History Society have recently introduced > compilation CDs - no new data but ifyou haven't bought the individual > CDs you can save money by buying the same data compiled on one CD > - > full details on the B&AFHS website > http://www.bafhs.org.uk/bafhs-shop Thanks for the information, Dave. How useful to have the B & A FHS Baptismal, Marriage & Burial Registers Collection on one CD. I have been using my B & A FHS resources extensively this week trying to solve a puzzle for a correspondent. I wouldn't want to be without them as they are so useful. Josephine --

Hi Listers I hope this 'sales pitch' message is OK as I think people will be interested - Bristol & Avon Family History Society have recently introduced compilation CDs - no new data but if you haven't bought the individual CDs you can save money by buying the same data compiled on one CD - full details on the B&AFHS website Last week B&AFHS also introduced an alternative facility for people to download the above data over the internet (from their section on the Genfair website - this saves even more and of course there are no postal charges. The link below should take you to the website page with more details:- http://www.bafhs.org.uk/bafhs-shop Best wishes Dave Napier [email protected] [email protected]

Hi Nancy I can only suggest Bristol Museum, Bristol Record Office, Gloucester Record Office or perhaps Bristol University. I know the Rev Ellacombe wrote in the 19th century when he was vicar there that the Roman road from Bath towards Bristol and the River Avon was called Via Julia and had passed through Bitton centuries earlier. I think there's some books called The Victoria County History (or something similar) for Bristol or Gloucestershire which may help. Bernice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] St Mary's, Bitton > Hi Bernice, > > Not so much about Bitton, other than the treasures in the church, but a > very enlightening lecture on > the difference between Anglo Saxon Christianity and Medievan Christianity. > This is a must listen to > for anyone interested in early Christianity in Britain. > > It was nice to see inside the Church, something that you and I couldn't do > when we were there. Also > interesting to note that the site was originally a Roman Villa used by > early Christians as a meeting > place before they built a church. > > Any idea where we can find any of the archeology connected with this Roman > Villa? > > > Regards, > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset > Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group > Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bernice pegler" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:48 AM > Subject: [B&S] St Mary's, Bitton > > >>I know there are a lot of people on the list who, like me, have ancestors >>from Bitton parish. I've >>just been sent the following link to a film about this ancient church and >>also the history of >>English churches in general. >> >> http://www.ubraintv.com/watch.php?id=278 >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Bernice in Bristol > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For many years I have been searching for the location of a house called "The Woodlands" in Court Rd Kingswood and asked for help on this list. I have a wedding group photo taken in front of the house after the marriage of my father's cousin William Bertie COX to Mary Ethel DOUGLAS in 1913. The house was the residence of William Douglas the head of Douglas Motorcycles of Kingswood but in 1913 motorcycles were just one of many things the company made. Mary Ethel DOUGLAS was said to be the "boss's daughter" by my uncles but I later found out she was William's Australian niece, daughter of his younger brother John who emigrated about 1880 age 18. After Johns wife died the children were sent back to Bristol around 1900 to live with their uncles. I had previously walked the length of Court Rd virtually on Google Street View and later on foot but nothing was found. There is a Woodland Terrace but that is off Hanham Rd. The only house with any similarities to The Woodlands was Enmore House now a nursery on the corner of Courtney Rd. Recently while viewing the Kingswood area 1900s OS map on the city councils "Know Your Place" web site the large words "The Woodlands" appeared. The house is located at the northern end of Court Rd next door to Enmore House set back about 30 mtrs from the road with a circular drive in front. The wedding photo shows two bay windows at the front with a large porch between and these all show up clearly on the large scale map. The big advantage of the site is that you can instantly switch to view the same area between 2012 OS map, 2010 Aerial photo, 1949 OS, 1900 OS and 1880 OS, plus earlier maps for more central areas. Switching to the 2012 OS and 2010 aerial photo it is easy to see that the house was located on what is now a car park for a care home and the RC Parish rooms. Switching to the 1880 map shows the house was not yet built as it was just an empty field but switching to the 1949 map shows the house was still there. From the age of the new buildings it looks as if the house may have been knocked down in the last 10-20 years. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

Hi Bernie Some of the records have been transcribed - there are bishops transcripts (i.e. Anglican burials only) in the Bristol records office for the period 1840 - 1868. The Arnos Vale Cemetery Trust is a charity charged with running and maintaining the cemetery and fees for record searches are seen as a significant income stream at the moment, they are not receptive to moves that would place the records in the public domain in a way which would reduce that income stream. (Note that the Trust has quite a challenge on its hands - to develop an annual income from all sources, including endowment funds, of around £250,000 to keep the place going for us.) However, some pilot scale work has been done and in the long term, decisions will (eventually!) be made ... but don't hold your breath. My PERSONAL view is that we should be working with volunteers on building an index that could be published and still maintain an income providing the full burial details - probably more efficiently because we would not have to carry out 'fruitless' searches. As a Trustee at the cemetery, I have yet to convince my colleagues that this is the route to go. I hope this is a helpful response (even if you find it a bit frustrating!). Regards Dave Napier ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat bernie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: [B&S] Arnos Vale Dear Listers Does anyone know whether the Arnos Vale records have been transcribed ? If not are there plans to transcribe - volunteers needed? Are they available- and where? Best wishes Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bernice, Not so much about Bitton, other than the treasures in the church, but a very enlightening lecture on the difference between Anglo Saxon Christianity and Medievan Christianity. This is a must listen to for anyone interested in early Christianity in Britain. It was nice to see inside the Church, something that you and I couldn't do when we were there. Also interesting to note that the site was originally a Roman Villa used by early Christians as a meeting place before they built a church. Any idea where we can find any of the archeology connected with this Roman Villa? Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "bernice pegler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:48 AM Subject: [B&S] St Mary's, Bitton >I know there are a lot of people on the list who, like me, have ancestors from Bitton parish. I've >just been sent the following link to a film about this ancient church and also the history of >English churches in general. > > http://www.ubraintv.com/watch.php?id=278 > > Enjoy. > > Bernice in Bristol

Dear Listers Does anyone know whether the Arnos Vale records have been transcribed ? If not are there plans to transcribe - volunteers needed? Are they available- and where?   Best wishes Pat

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:48:06 +0100, bernice pegler <[email protected]> wrote: > I know there are a lot of people on the list who, like me, have > ancestors from Bitton parish. I've just been sent the following link to > a film about this ancient church and also the history of English > churches in general. > http://www.ubraintv.com/watch.php?id=278 Hi Bernice, Thanks for this link. Yes, there must be many B & S list members, past and present, who have Bitton ancestors. I was looking at my 1977 diary recently, where I had recorded a visit Ian and I made to St. Mary's, Bitton to look at gravestones for my family. Little did I know then how much Bitton family history I would uncover decades later. Little did he know then that his 2x great-grandfather was married there! Josephine --

I know there are a lot of people on the list who, like me, have ancestors from Bitton parish. I've just been sent the following link to a film about this ancient church and also the history of English churches in general. http://www.ubraintv.com/watch.php?id=278 Enjoy. Bernice in Bristol

Hi Josephine Worth a look (but of course I'm biased!) ... I wish they'd get the facts right though! The Raja Rammohun Roy died at Beech house, Stapleton .. not Leigh Woods ..... and as far as we know there are around 176,000 burials in about 50,000 graves and about 123,000 cremations took place at Arnos Vale between 1928 -1998 ... ashes continue to be scattered/interred there and a few burials also take place. There are also many 1000's of inscriptions to people buried elsewhere ... but '300,000 'burials' is a bit of an exaggeration. Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:56 AM Subject: [B&S] Audio slideshow: Arnos Vale Cemetery --- BBC > Hi Listers, > > Looking at the BBC web site, this has just caught my eye: > > Audio slideshow: Arnos Vale Cemetery > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-18859991 > > Josephine > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, Looking at the BBC web site, this has just caught my eye: Audio slideshow: Arnos Vale Cemetery http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-18859991 Josephine --

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:18:28 +0100, Michael <[email protected]> wrote: > I am still looking for any information on the Sheppard's from Ubley and > Wales. Hi Michael, You may already have the following marriage, but nothing ventured nothing gained: James SHEPHERD (sic), bachelor, and Ann LANE, spinster, were married, by banns, on 8th. July 1822 at Ubley, Somerset. There's a note of 'cons. parents'. This marriage is included in the Marriage Index Vol 10 North Somerset Parishes 1754-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk A James SHEPPARD was among the voters of Ubley Parish entitled to vote in Somerset in the election of 1832. His abode was Ubley and his qualification to vote was a freehold house, which he occupied himself. Josephine --