A good site to peruse: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Dunster/ (;-)) Edna - Ottawa

Hi, Please, was there a hospital or place for the sick in Dunster Castle in 1841? If not Dunster Castle, what institution in Dunster could one be an inmate of? The 1841 census lists Mary Willie, 63, and her daughter Mary North, 33, in Dunster. The address looks like ?Dunster Castle?, and Mary Willie is listed as a F.S. (?female servant) and Mary North as an inmate. On 1841 census in Taunton, Mary North's husband was listed as a merchant, and Mary Willie's husband was listed as independent. Mary Willie's daughter Elizabeth Jones went to Brislington House or "Dr. Fox's" near Bristol between 1844-1845 to improve her mental health. Maybe Mary Sr. & Jr. had similar health problems. Thank you, Celia ____________________________________________________________ Banks Forced to Forgive Credit Card Debt See how much of your debt could be settled! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504edfbf39f825fbf6f56st03vuc

Thanks Nancy, will take a look. best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nancy Frey Sent: 10 September 2012 14:26 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Spirit Licenses Hi Mike I've found records of licenses for inns and public houses at the UK National Archives sites. Have you checked there? Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Mike Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know anything about spirit licenses? I've found a note written > by my gr-gr-grandfather saying that the spirit license of his pub The > Pilgrim was to be transferred to the Waverley in Lawrence Hill in March > 1911. This is backed-up by some info kindly provided by the BRO, as > follows: > > > > In the Magistrate's Court collection, 'Inns, Alehouse and Victuallers > Licenses': ref.no. JMag/J/4/3. > > Folio/Page 109 states: Waverley > > Owners, Bristol United Breweries Ltd. of Lewins Mead. > > Remarks, 6 March 1911. The 7 day license of the Pilgrim, Orange Street, was > transferred to this house in the name of Frank Curtis. > > Folio/Page 144 shows that the 7 day license of the Pilgrim was transferred > to the Waverley after it had been held there since 1904 by Frank Curtis. > > > > Frank became the landlord of The Pilgrim in 1901, which suggests he ran the > pub without a "7 day license" for 3-4 years. Is that possible? > > > > Best wishes > > > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, this was supplied sometime ago by Edna living in Ottawa - Original source - "Encyclopedia of Plague and Pestilence" 1732-33, 1742-43, 1762, 1767, 1775-76, 1782 influenza 1751-53 smallpox 1788-89 influenza 1796 smallpox 1803 influenza 1816-19 typhus, smallpox 1825-26 smallpox 1830 influenza 1832 cholera 1833, 1836-37 influenza 1837-38 typhus 1837-40 smallpox 1847-48 typhus, influenza 1848-49, 1853-54, 1865-66 cholera 1871-72 smallpox 1899-1902 British typhoid epidemic in the Boer War. Best wishes, Helen Mitchell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Gould Sent: Monday, 10 September 2012 6:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [B&S] Website request for infectious disease outbreaks in UK over history Hi Listers, Can someone please let me know of a website that lists the years in which there were outbreaks of infectious diseases in the UK over time. It's been posted on the list before, but I can't seem to find it. George GOULD died in Litton in 1857 of "Scrofula" (TB). He was only 24 years old and a shoemaker by trade. I was wondering whether this was an isolated case, or part of a local outbreak, or a national one ? Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to Helen, Tony and Edna for their information about infectious diseases. From links provided, it appears that there was not a national epidemic as such, but as Tony has said, TB or Consumption was endemic in the population until the arrival of penicillin. Best wishes, Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Gould Sent: 10 September 2012 09:59 To: [email protected] Subject: [B&S] Website request for infectious disease outbreaks in UK over history Hi Listers, Can someone please let me know of a website that lists the years in which there were outbreaks of infectious diseases in the UK over time. It's been posted on the list before, but I can't seem to find it. George GOULD died in Litton in 1857 of "Scrofula" (TB). He was only 24 years old and a shoemaker by trade. I was wondering whether this was an isolated case, or part of a local outbreak, or a national one ? Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Take your pick! http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/diseases.html http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/plagues_disasters.html www.cyndislist.com/disasters.htm#Epidemics www.cyndislist.com/medical.htm#Epidemics http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyfloyd/Mis_files/epidemics.html USA http://www.kdfhs.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=30 UK from 1600 Jean Wood http://www.cheziris.eu/index.htm http://www.cheziris.eu/Duterrau.htm > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:58:53 +0100 > Subject: [B&S] Website request for infectious disease outbreaks in UK over history > > Hi Listers, > > Can someone please let me know of a website that lists the years in which > there were outbreaks of infectious diseases in the UK over time. It's been > posted on the list before, but I can't seem to find it. > > George GOULD died in Litton in 1857 of "Scrofula" (TB). He was only 24 > years old and a shoemaker by trade. I was wondering whether this was an > isolated case, or part of a local outbreak, or a national one ? > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > Leicestershire > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike TB or Consumption was endemic in the population until the arrival of penicillin. Scrofula affected the Lymph nodes usually in the neck but could be elsewhere. Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gould" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [B&S] Website request for infectious disease outbreaks in UK overhistory > Hi Listers, > > Can someone please let me know of a website that lists the years in which > there were outbreaks of infectious diseases in the UK over time. It's > been > posted on the list before, but I can't seem to find it. > > George GOULD died in Litton in 1857 of "Scrofula" (TB). He was only 24 > years old and a shoemaker by trade. I was wondering whether this was an > isolated case, or part of a local outbreak, or a national one ? > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > Leicestershire > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, Does anyone know anything about spirit licenses? I've found a note written by my gr-gr-grandfather saying that the spirit license of his pub The Pilgrim was to be transferred to the Waverley in Lawrence Hill in March 1911. This is backed-up by some info kindly provided by the BRO, as follows: In the Magistrate's Court collection, 'Inns, Alehouse and Victuallers Licenses': ref.no. JMag/J/4/3. Folio/Page 109 states: Waverley Owners, Bristol United Breweries Ltd. of Lewins Mead. Remarks, 6 March 1911. The 7 day license of the Pilgrim, Orange Street, was transferred to this house in the name of Frank Curtis. Folio/Page 144 shows that the 7 day license of the Pilgrim was transferred to the Waverley after it had been held there since 1904 by Frank Curtis. Frank became the landlord of The Pilgrim in 1901, which suggests he ran the pub without a "7 day license" for 3-4 years. Is that possible? Best wishes Mike

Hi Listers, Can someone please let me know of a website that lists the years in which there were outbreaks of infectious diseases in the UK over time. It's been posted on the list before, but I can't seem to find it. George GOULD died in Litton in 1857 of "Scrofula" (TB). He was only 24 years old and a shoemaker by trade. I was wondering whether this was an isolated case, or part of a local outbreak, or a national one ? Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire

Hi Mike I've found records of licenses for inns and public houses at the UK National Archives sites. Have you checked there? Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Mike Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know anything about spirit licenses? I've found a note written > by my gr-gr-grandfather saying that the spirit license of his pub The > Pilgrim was to be transferred to the Waverley in Lawrence Hill in March > 1911. This is backed-up by some info kindly provided by the BRO, as > follows: > > > > In the Magistrate's Court collection, 'Inns, Alehouse and Victuallers > Licenses': ref.no. JMag/J/4/3. > > Folio/Page 109 states: Waverley > > Owners, Bristol United Breweries Ltd. of Lewins Mead. > > Remarks, 6 March 1911. The 7 day license of the Pilgrim, Orange Street, was > transferred to this house in the name of Frank Curtis. > > Folio/Page 144 shows that the 7 day license of the Pilgrim was transferred > to the Waverley after it had been held there since 1904 by Frank Curtis. > > > > Frank became the landlord of The Pilgrim in 1901, which suggests he ran the > pub without a "7 day license" for 3-4 years. Is that possible? > > > > Best wishes > > > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hall Genealogy website -- lists periods of diseases in the UK http://rmhh.co.uk/medical.html Edna - Ottawa

Shirley Hornbeck's genealogy tips on diseases, medical terms -- seems to be more America-oriented. Edna - Ottawa >>> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/disease.htm

Hi List, Pamela, I loved that link about the Williams book which Pocock illustrated, thank you! Amazing in that it was considered the first novel written in America. ‘Twas a very interesting website. I noticed in the text there were notes on another book Clarke and McArthur's Life of Nelson. My interests lie with the CLARKE family so i googled the author James Stanier Clarke and found the following interesting book. He also wrote The Biographical Memoirs of the late Captain James Cook FRS.: http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=zv4TAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage I googled further to discover that Rev James Stanier Clarke FRS was the Chaplain and Librarian to his Royal Highness Prince Regent, to be histographer to his Majesty! Another interesting text mentioning him was the “The Royal Kalendar, and court and city register for England, Scotland Ireland and the Colonies for the year 1820”, which is full of names and information. http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=zOcNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false Further investigation found that he corresponded with Jane Austen and wrote a Friendship Book which came up for auction last year at Christie’s after having been found in a second hand bookshop in Canterbury! The book is a record of some of his contacts amongst some of the most influential people in Regency England and contains 100 cpntemporary paintings, drawings verses etc inlcuding Nicholas Pocock, George Romney, William Hodges, Anna Seward and Nelson’s Hardy. http://austenonly.com/2011/06/16/the-continuing-saga-of-james-stanier-clarkes-portrait-of-jane-austen/ So you can see, one listing on here sometimes leads to a whole new world of discoveries!! and things to side track you from what you originally were looking for!!! I am now going to ancestry to have a look for Mr James Stanier Clarke genealogy! Amanda NZ From: Pamela Ehrlich Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 3:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Hi Everyone, I've been a member of this list for awhile but haven't had a chance to contribute yet. Thanks all for the genealogical research tips. Today the notice about the Pocock painting up for auction was of great interest to me. Pocock also illustrated a novel by the artist, stage designer, musician, seaman, and author, William Williams (born and died in Bristol) who lived for a time in America (approximately from 1740 to 1773). Here is a link which might be of interest. It's to the Christie's sale in 2006 of the Williams' manuscript with Pocock's illustrations––it is now in the collection of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4784218 Also of interest might be the article about the Bristol School of artists: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/the-bristol-school-of-artists/ I am researching William Williams (1727-1791) and a group of people associated with him in Bristol––among them––Thomas and Rev. John Eagles, Edward Bird, and Dr. Thomas Pole. I know there are many people by the name of William Williams, but if anyone knows anything about the man who died in the Mariners' almshouse in 1791, I would very much love to hear about it. Living in America, I can't get to Bristol easily. Williams married a woman named Hester/Esther Hart in New York in 1773 and had a step-daughter Mary, who married one Robert Byrchmore in London in 1784. Any hints on sources for research in the Bristol/Gloucestershire area for this time period would be much appreciated. Best regards, Pam ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 3:11:57 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Today's Topics: 1. Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. Re: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 4. Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 5. B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post (liverpud) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:52:50 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, An article in The Post has caught my eye: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:34:45 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, This may be of interest to list members. The Western Daily Press has a list of venues in Bath, Somerset, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, which are taking part in Heritage Open Days this week: Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Opening-doors-discover-heritage-treasures/story-16820720-detail/story.html Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:36:50 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:44:30 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi again, After bookmarking the two sites for future reference, I did a google for the ship mentioned - ie The Lloyd of Bristol. Here's the URL that popped up: http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/browse/slavery/page-of-log-book-of-ship-lloyd71/ Looks like I nailed it on the head -- Pocock was a SLAVER!!!!! Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:07:58 -0400 From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Nancy, We noticed that. Rather sad that it was so accepted at the time. Excellent site there, Nancy. (;-(( Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Hi Listers, Canal enthusiasts may be interested in this BBC article featuring Claverton Pumping Station on the Kennet & Avon Canal: Claverton Pumping Station to receive top transport award http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-19529325 Josephine --

Hi I am still not sure how Nicholas Pocock is/was related to Martha Pocock. Will accept some additional research to show the same, even though the two Pocock families lived in close proximity - Bristol. Keith Rees Aus -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bernice pegler Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2012 7:43 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- articleinThe Post A descendant of Nicholas Pocock was Martha Pocock who married Henry Mills Grace in 1831 and they are the parents of W G Grace the famous cricketer. Bernice From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:44 AM Subject: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post > Hi again, > > After bookmarking the two sites for future reference, I did a google > for the ship mentioned - ie The Lloyd of Bristol. Here's the URL that > popped up: > > http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/browse/slavery/page-of-log-book-of-ship-llo yd71/ > > Looks like I nailed it on the head -- Pocock was a SLAVER!!!!! > > Regards, > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article > in The Post > To: [email protected] > > > Hi Josephine, > > That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was > enlightening as well. The article says: > > "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he > made six voyages in her to South Carolina." > > In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods > to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and > brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his > log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American > who knew they descended from slaves. > > Thanks for posting this information. > > Regards, > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam, A belated welcome to the list. Thanks for providing information about the Pocock and Williams families. Even though you may not be able to visit Bristol, you might be interested in the online catalogue for the Bristol Record Office. If you find something interesting in it, you could post a request on the list for someone visiting the Record Office to look it up for you, or if it involves a bit more searching, you may need to pay either a local researcher or the Record Office staff to find it for you. The online catalogue is here: <http://archives.bristol.gov.uk/dserve/> By the way, you may not have realised that because you are subscribed in digest mode, when you click "Reply to", you will get the whole of the digest added to the bottom of your email. You will also get a very general subject text, as you can see here (yours is "RE: [B&S] BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216"). So it's best after clicking "Reply to" to strip out all the digest text on the end of the email and change the subject to the one used in the post to which you are replying. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamela Ehrlich Sent: 08 September 2012 16:46 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Hi Everyone, I've been a member of this list for awhile but haven't had a chance to contribute yet. Thanks all for the genealogical research tips. Today the notice about the Pocock painting up for auction was of great interest to me. Pocock also illustrated a novel by the artist, stage designer, musician, seaman, and author, William Williams (born and died in Bristol) who lived for a time in America (approximately from 1740 to 1773). Here is a link which might be of interest. It's to the Christie's sale in 2006 of the Williams' manuscript with Pocock's illustrations––it is now in the collection of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4784218 Also of interest might be the article about the Bristol School of artists: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/the-bristol-school-of-artists/ I am researching William Williams (1727-1791) and a group of people associated with him in Bristol––among them––Thomas and Rev. John Eagles, Edward Bird, and Dr. Thomas Pole. I know there are many people by the name of William Williams, but if anyone knows anything about the man who died in the Mariners' almshouse in 1791, I would very much love to hear about it. Living in America, I can't get to Bristol easily. Williams married a woman named Hester/Esther Hart in New York in 1773 and had a step-daughter Mary, who married one Robert Byrchmore in London in 1784. Any hints on sources for research in the Bristol/Gloucestershire area for this time period would be much appreciated. Best regards, Pam ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 3:11:57 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Today's Topics: 1. Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Josephine Jeremiah) <clipped>

A descendant of Nicholas Pocock was Martha Pocock who married Henry Mills Grace in 1831 and they are the parents of W G Grace the famous cricketer. Bernice From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:44 AM Subject: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post > Hi again, > > After bookmarking the two sites for future reference, I did a google > for the ship mentioned - ie The Lloyd of Bristol. Here's the URL that > popped up: > > http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/browse/slavery/page-of-log-book-of-ship-lloyd71/ > > Looks like I nailed it on the head -- Pocock was a SLAVER!!!!! > > Regards, > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article > in The Post > To: [email protected] > > > Hi Josephine, > > That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was > enlightening as well. The article says: > > "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he > made six voyages in her to South Carolina." > > In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods > to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and > brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his > log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American > who knew they descended from slaves. > > Thanks for posting this information. > > Regards, > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I've been a member of this list for awhile but haven't had a chance to contribute yet. Thanks all for the genealogical research tips. Today the notice about the Pocock painting up for auction was of great interest to me. Pocock also illustrated a novel by the artist, stage designer, musician, seaman, and author, William Williams (born and died in Bristol) who lived for a time in America (approximately from 1740 to 1773). Here is a link which might be of interest. It's to the Christie's sale in 2006 of the Williams' manuscript with Pocock's illustrations––it is now in the collection of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4784218 Also of interest might be the article about the Bristol School of artists: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/the-bristol-school-of-artists/ I am researching William Williams (1727-1791) and a group of people associated with him in Bristol––among them––Thomas and Rev. John Eagles, Edward Bird, and Dr. Thomas Pole. I know there are many people by the name of William Williams, but if anyone knows anything about the man who died in the Mariners' almshouse in 1791, I would very much love to hear about it. Living in America, I can't get to Bristol easily. Williams married a woman named Hester/Esther Hart in New York in 1773 and had a step-daughter Mary, who married one Robert Byrchmore in London in 1784. Any hints on sources for research in the Bristol/Gloucestershire area for this time period would be much appreciated. Best regards, Pam ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 3:11:57 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Today's Topics: 1. Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. Re: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 4. Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 5. B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post (liverpud) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:52:50 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, An article in The Post has caught my eye: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:34:45 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, This may be of interest to list members. The Western Daily Press has a list of venues in Bath, Somerset, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, which are taking part in Heritage Open Days this week: Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Opening-doors-discover-heritage-treasures/story-16820720-detail/story.html Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:36:50 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:44:30 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi again, After bookmarking the two sites for future reference, I did a google for the ship mentioned - ie The Lloyd of Bristol. Here's the URL that popped up: http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/browse/slavery/page-of-log-book-of-ship-lloyd71/ Looks like I nailed it on the head -- Pocock was a SLAVER!!!!! Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:07:58 -0400 From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Nancy, We noticed that. Rather sad that it was so accepted at the time. Excellent site there, Nancy. (;-(( Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Hi Listers, This may be of interest to list members. The Western Daily Press has a list of venues in Bath, Somerset, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, which are taking part in Heritage Open Days this week: Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Opening-doors-discover-heritage-treasures/story-16820720-detail/story.html Josephine --

Hi Nancy, We noticed that. Rather sad that it was so accepted at the time. Excellent site there, Nancy. (;-(( Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > > http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > > http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ > > Josephine >