Hi Mike, The Chewton Mendip registers are still being transcribed for FreeReg, ChewtonHundred and Somerset OPC. Currently baptisms and burials are up to 1812 and marriages to 1753. You might find it useful to conact the Chewton Mendip OPC (who is also the transcriber). He is Steve Bumstead who's email address can be found at http://wsom-opc.org.uk/index.php?id=39&k=272. Andy, FreeReg Area Assistant for Somerset and Chewton Hundred Moderator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Matthews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: [B&S] Thoughts on these Chewton FLOWERs would be appreciated > Dear all, > > > > I am descended from Mary FLOWER, baptised in Chewton Mendip, Somerset in > 1823. She was the daughter of John and Elizabeth FLOWER, and I have had > great difficulty identifying them. > > > > The 1841 census shows the family living in Nedge, John aged 35 and > Elizabeth > aged 30. However these ages are clearly rounded down as their first > child, > Eliza, was born in 1819 and it's therefore more likely that they were both > born c.1795-1800. > > > > John died before 1851, so all I know about him is that he was born in > Somerset. Elizabeth lived into the 1880s and later censuses show her > birthplace as Chewton Mendip, around 1799. > > > > John and Elizabeth's children were: Eliza (1819), James (1821), Mary > (1823), > William (1826), George (1828), Edwin (1831) and Ann (1834). > > > > I have found no trace of their marriage on FreeReg or the IGI, though I > realise that not all Somerset marriages are on these sites as yet. > > > > I have found a marriage for John Flower and Elizabeth Flower in St > Nicholas, > Bristol in 1816, which is tantalising. Only one John and Elizabeth Flower > were living in Bristol (Shirehampton) in 1841, and later census records > indicate that this John would've been too young to marry in 1816. So > maybe > the St Nicholas couple were my ancestors? The only drawback with this > theory is that there is no trace of a baptism for Elizabeth Flower in > Chewton c. 1800. > > > > John's origins are also a mystery. His gravestone indicates that he was > interred in Emborough, which perhaps indicates a family connection to this > parish, and indeed a John Flower was baptised in Emborough in 1798, son of > George and Betty. However, an old family tree I have seen shows George > and > Betty with a son called George born just 8 months before John was > baptised, > and I have a feeling that George and John were the same person, i.e. he > was > baptised John but later renamed George. This tree was compiled by a > descendant of George, and while no sources are provided I suspect George's > birth date might come from a family bible. > > > > There was also a John baptised in Chewton in 1797, but he corresponds with > the burial of a John Flower in Chewton in 1820, aged 22. > > > > No wills seem to be available to provide any further clues. > > > > John and Elizabeth's daughter Ann married a man from Timsbury, and I know > that a lot of Flowers lived there. So perhaps my John came from there > originally. A John Flower was baptised in Timsbury in 1805, son of Josiah > and Ann, but unless he was baptised when several years old, he would be > too > young to be my John. > > > > Another point worth noting is that John and Elizabeth's daughter Mary > married Thomas CURTIS, and they named their second son Henry, which was > not > a name used greatly by the Curtis family. They could've just chosen the > name on a whim, or it could be a significant name in the Flower family. > > > > I have a feeling that I'll never find a marriage for John and Elizabeth, > or > find out where they came from, but any thoughts or suggestions would be > most > welcome. > > > > Regards > > > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Josephine There was a John and Elizabeth, both aged 40, living in Lyncombe and Widcombe in 1841. Among their children was Harriet, who appears to have been baptised in St James, Bath in 1828. I've therefore assumed that this couple were the John Flower and Elizabeth Loscom who married in St James in 1817. Best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 18 September 2012 15:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Thoughts on these Chewton FLOWERs would be appreciated On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:47:19 +0100, Mike Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: > I am descended from Mary FLOWER, baptised in Chewton Mendip, Somerset > in 1823. She was the daughter of John and Elizabeth FLOWER, and I > have had great difficulty identifying them. > I have found no trace of their marriage on FreeReg or the IGI, though > I realise that not all Somerset marriages are on these sites as yet. Hi Mike, Have you discounted the following couple? John FLOWER, bachelor, and Elizabeth LOSCOM, spinster, were married, by banns, on 13th. June 1817 at Bath St. James. Both were of the parish. This marriage is included in the Marriage Index Vol 10 North Somerset Parishes 1754-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "bernice pegler" <[email protected]> > Hi Cindy > The burial registers will tell you the burial date but if you can > find the actual tombstone then the death date will be carved on it rather > than the burial date. I would suggest the burial date would have been within > a week of the death in those days. > Bernice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Baum, Cindy, OPM USA" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:23 AM > Subject: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from > burial > records > > > > Hi, Listers, > > > > I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby > > parishes. However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person > > actually died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in > > the late 1700s to mid-1800s? < < I would have thought a week was about right because it wouldn't have been very healthy to keep corpses longer than that in those days! However, do be careful about assuming dates on tombstones to be correct. I have found they are sometimes wrong, even occasionally giving a wrong year because they have been added at a later date than the actual burial. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Cindy The burial registers will tell you the burial date but if you can find the actual tombstone then the death date will be carved on it rather than the burial date. I would suggest the burial date would have been within a week of the death in those days. Bernice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baum, Cindy, OPM USA" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:23 AM Subject: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from burial records > Hi, Listers, > > I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby parishes. > However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person actually > died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in the late > 1700s to mid-1800s? > > Thanks, > > Cindy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:47:19 +0100, Mike Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: > I am descended from Mary FLOWER, baptised in Chewton Mendip, Somerset in > 1823. She was the daughter of John and Elizabeth FLOWER, and I have had > great difficulty identifying them. > I have found no trace of their marriage on FreeReg or the IGI, though I > realise that not all Somerset marriages are on these sites as yet. Hi Mike, Have you discounted the following couple? John FLOWER, bachelor, and Elizabeth LOSCOM, spinster, were married, by banns, on 13th. June 1817 at Bath St. James. Both were of the parish. This marriage is included in the Marriage Index Vol 10 North Somerset Parishes 1754-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:23:25 +0100, Baum, Cindy, OPM USA <[email protected]> wrote: > I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby parishes. > However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person actually > died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in the late > 1700s to mid-1800s? Hi Cindy, I've had a look at my notes for my Bitton and neighbourhood ancestors and have found that I don't have both death certificate and burial to compare dates on any of them. Mostly I have the burials of these ancestors, but I do have some of their death certificates. This is a reminder for me to chase up some of the burials of the ancestors for whom I have death certificates. I have both death date and burial date for an ancestor who died in Marshfield, Gloucestershire, which is not far from Bitton. My 4x great grandmother, Keziah LILES (nee HITCHINGS)died on 5th. December 1848 and was buried on 12th. December 1848 at Marshfield. Josephine

Dear all, I am descended from Mary FLOWER, baptised in Chewton Mendip, Somerset in 1823. She was the daughter of John and Elizabeth FLOWER, and I have had great difficulty identifying them. The 1841 census shows the family living in Nedge, John aged 35 and Elizabeth aged 30. However these ages are clearly rounded down as their first child, Eliza, was born in 1819 and it's therefore more likely that they were both born c.1795-1800. John died before 1851, so all I know about him is that he was born in Somerset. Elizabeth lived into the 1880s and later censuses show her birthplace as Chewton Mendip, around 1799. John and Elizabeth's children were: Eliza (1819), James (1821), Mary (1823), William (1826), George (1828), Edwin (1831) and Ann (1834). I have found no trace of their marriage on FreeReg or the IGI, though I realise that not all Somerset marriages are on these sites as yet. I have found a marriage for John Flower and Elizabeth Flower in St Nicholas, Bristol in 1816, which is tantalising. Only one John and Elizabeth Flower were living in Bristol (Shirehampton) in 1841, and later census records indicate that this John would've been too young to marry in 1816. So maybe the St Nicholas couple were my ancestors? The only drawback with this theory is that there is no trace of a baptism for Elizabeth Flower in Chewton c. 1800. John's origins are also a mystery. His gravestone indicates that he was interred in Emborough, which perhaps indicates a family connection to this parish, and indeed a John Flower was baptised in Emborough in 1798, son of George and Betty. However, an old family tree I have seen shows George and Betty with a son called George born just 8 months before John was baptised, and I have a feeling that George and John were the same person, i.e. he was baptised John but later renamed George. This tree was compiled by a descendant of George, and while no sources are provided I suspect George's birth date might come from a family bible. There was also a John baptised in Chewton in 1797, but he corresponds with the burial of a John Flower in Chewton in 1820, aged 22. No wills seem to be available to provide any further clues. John and Elizabeth's daughter Ann married a man from Timsbury, and I know that a lot of Flowers lived there. So perhaps my John came from there originally. A John Flower was baptised in Timsbury in 1805, son of Josiah and Ann, but unless he was baptised when several years old, he would be too young to be my John. Another point worth noting is that John and Elizabeth's daughter Mary married Thomas CURTIS, and they named their second son Henry, which was not a name used greatly by the Curtis family. They could've just chosen the name on a whim, or it could be a significant name in the Flower family. I have a feeling that I'll never find a marriage for John and Elizabeth, or find out where they came from, but any thoughts or suggestions would be most welcome. Regards Mike

Thanks, Roy. Good point. I know, my great-grandmother's birth year here in the States is wrong and they even have her husband's middle initial incorrect on the same marker. If someone other than me were to look, they wouldn't even think they were the right people! I hope that the person who paid for the stone got a reduction... At least I can get an idea if I find them somewhere online. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from burial records From: "bernice pegler" <[email protected]> > Hi Cindy > The burial registers will tell you the burial date but if you can find > the actual tombstone then the death date will be carved on it rather > than the burial date. I would suggest the burial date would have been > within a week of the death in those days. > Bernice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Baum, Cindy, OPM USA" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:23 AM > Subject: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from burial > records > > > > Hi, Listers, > > > > I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby > > parishes. However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person > > actually died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in > > the late 1700s to mid-1800s? < < I would have thought a week was about right because it wouldn't have been very healthy to keep corpses longer than that in those days! However, do be careful about assuming dates on tombstones to be correct. I have found they are sometimes wrong, even occasionally giving a wrong year because they have been added at a later date than the actual burial. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________

Hi Bernice! Then I should look in places such as find-a-grave, too, I suppose. Never thought of that. Thanks! Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bernice pegler Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from burial records Hi Cindy The burial registers will tell you the burial date but if you can find the actual tombstone then the death date will be carved on it rather than the burial date. I would suggest the burial date would have been within a week of the death in those days. Bernice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baum, Cindy, OPM USA" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:23 AM Subject: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from burial records > Hi, Listers, > > I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby parishes. > However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person actually > died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in the > late 1700s to mid-1800s? > > Thanks, > > Cindy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________

Hi Josephine, >From what you have told me now and earlier, it looks like roughly a week was a common span. It might be as close as I get until I venture into trying to possibly obtain death certificates. I wouldn't need that many. Thanks! Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Question on calculating actual death dates from burial records On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:23:25 +0100, Baum, Cindy, OPM USA <[email protected]> wrote: > I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby parishes. > However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person actually > died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in the > late 1700s to mid-1800s? Hi Cindy, I've had a look at my notes for my Bitton and neighbourhood ancestors and have found that I don't have both death certificate and burial to compare dates on any of them. Mostly I have the burials of these ancestors, but I do have some of their death certificates. This is a reminder for me to chase up some of the burials of the ancestors for whom I have death certificates. I have both death date and burial date for an ancestor who died in Marshfield, Gloucestershire, which is not far from Bitton. My 4x great grandmother, Keziah LILES (nee HITCHINGS)died on 5th. December 1848 and was buried on 12th. December 1848 at Marshfield. Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________

Hi, Listers, I have burial dates for some ancestors in Bitton and nearby parishes. However, these dates obviously do not tell me when the person actually died. Was there any "typical" time between death and burial in the late 1700s to mid-1800s? Thanks, Cindy

Hi Sue If you checkout "familysearch.com Bristol collection" you'll see 4 entries for Maddy (none for Maddey) but no burials are listed. Bernice From: "Sue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: [B&S] Maddy > Hi > > Please may I ask if there are any Maddys buried at Filton, Bristol and > Bedminster Bristol. > > Thank you > > Sue in Suffolk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:41:05 +0100, Sue <[email protected]> wrote: > Please may I ask if there are any Maddys buried at Filton, Bristol and > Bedminster Bristol. Hi Sue, You may remember that we met, by chance, in a churchyard near the River Wye in 2003. So having come across a MADEY, from that area, in Bristol, in the 18th century, I'm wondering if he was one of your MADDY family. There is a reference to John MADEY in the Apprentice Index in the new CD, Bristol Apprenticeship Books Vols 1(o) to 1(z) Index & Transcripts 1724-2009, produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. John MADEY, 1st. February 1766, father William, labourer, father's abode Glasbury, BRE and Bristol, master, Richard CHEW, joiner, whose wife was Elizabeth. Josephine

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:41:05 +0100, Sue <[email protected]> wrote: > Please may I ask if there are any Maddys buried at Filton, Bristol and > Bedminster Bristol. Hi Sue, Mary MADDY, 22, was buried on 30th. December 1825 at Portland Street Methodist, Bristol Ann MADDY, 44, was buried on 19th. January 1826 at Portland Street Methodist, Bristol. These burials are included in the CD of Bristol Burials 1813 to 1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:41:05 +0100, Sue <[email protected]> wrote: > Please may I ask if there are any Maddys buried at Filton, Bristol and > Bedminster Bristol. Hi Sue, Here's the burial of another MADDEY, which may be of interest even though the spelling is slightly different. John MADDEY, aged 73, was buried on 29th. June 1824 at St. John's, Bedminster. This burial is included in the CD of Bristol Burials 1813 to 1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:41:05 +0100, Sue <[email protected]> wrote: > Please may I ask if there are any Maddys buried at Filton, Bristol and > Bedminster Bristol. Hi Sue, Here's a Bristol burial, which may be of interest, even though the spelling is slightly different from MADDY. William MADDEY was buried on 24th. November 1779 at Temple Church, Bristol. Abode was St. James. This burial is included in Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol. 3 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine

Hi Please may I ask if there are any Maddys buried at Filton, Bristol and Bedminster Bristol. Thank you Sue in Suffolk

Hi Listers, This BBC article may be of interest to some list members: Gloucestershire care home opens 1950s 'memory' street http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-19600050 The Post, today, has an article on the same topic: Home takes dementia care back to the Fifties http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Home-takes-dementia-care-Fifties/story-16919640-detail/story.html Josephine

On: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:24:05 +0100 "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> wrote: I now have further information about Benjamin WATERS from the new CD, Bristol Apprenticeship Books Vols 1(o) to 1(z) Index & Transcripts 1724-2009, produced by Bristol& Avon Family History Society. Hello Josephine, Thank you for continuing to search and find WATERS information. This week I am visiting Dubuque, Iowa and SW Wisconsin where so many English immigrants, including my ancestors, settled. I will be searching for more information there and also sharing with cousins, info that I have learned thanks to this site and helpful listers like you. Judy ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:55 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 232 Today's Topics:   1. Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts       1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) (Josephine Jeremiah)   2. Re: Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes &       Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) (Edie)   3. Re: Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, Conventry,       Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 (Edie)   4. Re: Lesson learnt (brian skehan)   5. Re: Lesson learnt (Josephine Jeremiah)   6. WATERS Benjamin, Bristol Apprenticeship Books, 1775 (was HILL       and WATERS families) (Josephine Jeremiah)   7. Re: Lesson learnt (brian skehan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:13:14 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes &     Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;     delsp=yes On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:39:22 +0100, Edie <[email protected]> wrote: > Even more important Elaine, get the film of the original record  > out,.that will save a lot ofheartache and misinformtion. > The Parish records have more information on them than the transcribed  > indexes do. > Edie Hi Edie and Listers, I can think of one transcribed index that has the information that is in parish registers. This is the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk It's a wonderful resource as it shows status, age, the brides' and grooms' occupations, where they lived, whether they signed the register or marked, their fathers' names and occupations, witnesses and whether they signed or marked. Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:42:08 +1000 From: "Edie" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes &     Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original That is good but not all do unfortunately.  i like the original record myself but a CD like that would be a good start and would guide you to the original Parishs film required.. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: [B&S] Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) > On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:39:22 +0100, Edie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Even more important Elaine, get the film of the original record >> out,.that will save a lot ofheartache and misinformtion. > >> The Parish records have more information on them than the transcribed >> indexes do. >> Edie > > Hi Edie and Listers, > > I can think of one transcribed index that has the information that is in > parish registers. > > This is the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 > Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & Avon > Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > It's a wonderful resource as it shows status, age, the brides' and grooms' > occupations, where they lived, whether they signed the register or marked, > their fathers' names and occupations, witnesses and whether they signed or > marked. > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:44:00 +1000 From: "Edie" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807,     Conventry,    Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original I now have another version of the marraige for Frances Goolden and her husband John Dresser.  It took place in Cookham, Berkshire, England 2 Sept 1807. Have just emailed the persons who compiled this record.  Going right way from Gloucestershire, but who knows.  I still need the birth. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, Conventry,Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 > It seems that Frances Goolden and John Dresser were married in Hampshire, > 31 > ugust 1807.  I had been told that but with all the different areas > covered, > I was mixed up.  I did see a spinster birth of a Frances to a Frances that > fit the time frame.  In the process of trying to find if Frances the > mother, > could have been the sister of the Thomas who my friend seems to think is > the > father of her Frances. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:18 PM > Subject: [B&S] Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, > Conventry,Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 > > >> Hi >> I am enquiring on behalf of a friend who doesnt have the computer on. >> She >> goes to the library.  She is trying to find Frances Goolden c1786 >> daughter >> of Thomas and Jane, unkown birthplace at this stage.She married John >> Dresser, in 1807 at conventry, Warwickshire.  This family seemed to move >> from areas such as Lassington in Gloucestershire, Shropshire and >> Somerset. >> I think Dorset comes into it as well.  Seems to be possibly one of those >> one off families.  She has a family tree given to her by a relative.  Her >> section of the family doesnt seem to be joined as some arent in these >> family trees.  Obviously incomplete.  Does anyone have such a Frances >> Goolden.  She hasnt found her birth to this couple and that is what she >> is >> after.  Can anyone help please. >> Edie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:54:51 +1000 From: "brian skehan" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Dear List, A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were all so quick off the mark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,this time I have learnt my lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorri Roughley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt > > oHi Eliane, > > Warning marriage certificates can be suspect, I have quite a few that I > know are incorrect. I like to reinforce the info on a marriage certificate > with other evidence. > > Do not through the info out...it is very possible that the two men were > brothers or cousins and therefore most of the info could still be > relevant. > > Your story reminds me of when I was in contact many years ago with someone > who had researched a branch of my tree in great detail, and gave me a lot > of help and information.  He had spent hours and hours in the various > records offices ploughing through the church records for Gloucestershire > and Oxfordshire.  Then the census returns came out...at which point I > found that there were 2 men of the same name/age/wife's name in the > village where his ancestor and my relative lived in 1841, and when I > checked the descendents for each man through the rest of the census > returns I discovered my contact was actually descended from the other one. > So all of my contacts wonderful work was correct for my tree...but not > his.  I didn't have the heart to tell him. > > Best of luck in sorting it all out, > > Dorri > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:02:05 +1000 >> Subject: [B&S] Lesson learnt >> >> Dear List, >> Last year we joined ancestry and duly added all my information on my >> family from Midsomer Norton.Now I am usually really pedantic about my >> research and check and double check and follow up with certificates where >> I can.I didn't have much on my GGrandfathers brother Richard but a hint >> got me in contact with a lady who was related to him which made me very >> excited.For 2 years we have been corresponding and I didn't recheck what >> was given to me .Now my new cousin has informed me that at last she has >> sent for her GGGrandfathers marriage certificate and instead of Richard >> being his father she has discovered it was a James,therefore throwing all >> the information I have out the window.Maybe somewhere down the track we >> may find a connection and have decided to stay in contact as "adopted >> cousins" but this has taught me a big lesson,ie even when all appears >> right please don't take it as gospel.You still need to check it all >> yourself and follow up with certificates etc where you can.! > . >> I started this email to ask for a lookup but will do so in another email. >> Regards Elaine Skehan, >> Victoria,Australia. >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:07:10 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;     delsp=yes On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:54:51 +0100, brian skehan <[email protected]>  wrote: > A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were  > all so quick off themark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the  > CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,thistime I have learnt my  > lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) Hi Elaine, My reference to the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers  Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol &  Avon Family History Society was just to indicate that not all  transcriptions give limited information. However, unless you have family members who lived in the South  Gloucestershire area, covered by this CD, then you may not find any  references to relatives in these Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts  1837-1901. Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:24:05 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] WATERS Benjamin, Bristol Apprenticeship Books, 1775     (was HILL and WATERS families) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;     delsp=yes On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:30:57 +0100, jcoupe <[email protected]> wrote: > I am searching for information about the parents of Joseph HILL.  He was  > born in Bristol, St.Phillips parish, around 1790-1801 and died in 1832.  > His wife was Elizabeth (WATERS), born inBristol about 1790-1800, and  > died in 1832. > I am also interested in learning Elizabeth WATERS lineage.  Her parents  > may have been Benjamin and Sarah WATERS who were born about 1769 in St.  > Phillips parish. Hi Judy, In my response to your post last month, I noted that Benjamin WATERS, wine  hooper, was made a Bristol Burgess on 7th. April  1784. His qualification  to be made a Bristol Burgess was as apprentice of Charles WITHINGTON. I now have further information about Benjamin WATERS from the new CD,  Bristol Apprenticeship Books Vols 1(o) to 1(z) Index &  Transcripts  1724-2009, produced by Bristol& Avon Family History Society. Benjamin WATERS was apprenticed to Charles WITHINGTON, a wine hooper,  whose wife was Jane. The father of Benjamin WATERS was noted as being William and he was  deceased. The father's occupation was cordwainer and abode was Bristol. Date 21st. March 1775 Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:55:26 +1000 From: "brian skehan" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Hi Josephine, Thank you for clarifying this for me. Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt > On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:54:51 +0100, brian skehan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were >> all so quick off themark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the >> CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,thistime I have learnt my >> lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) > > Hi Elaine, > > My reference to the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers > Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & > Avon Family History Society was just to indicate that not all > transcriptions give limited information. > > However, unless you have family members who lived in the South > Gloucestershire area, covered by this CD, then you may not find any > references to relatives in these Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts > 1837-1901. > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. 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Hi Josephine, Thank you for clarifying this for me. Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt > On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:54:51 +0100, brian skehan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were >> all so quick off themark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the >> CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,thistime I have learnt my >> lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) > > Hi Elaine, > > My reference to the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers > Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & > Avon Family History Society was just to indicate that not all > transcriptions give limited information. > > However, unless you have family members who lived in the South > Gloucestershire area, covered by this CD, then you may not find any > references to relatives in these Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts > 1837-1901. > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) http://www.pctools.com/ =======