On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:52:14 +0100, Polly Rubery <[email protected]> wrote: > There were still plenty of large and small (such as missing houses along > the terraces in roadssuch as Newfoundland Street) bombsites when I was > still going to school in Bristol in the firstpart of 1968. I know that > by the end of the 1970s I hardly recognised a lot of the City Centrewhen > I had cause to visit. Hi Polly, I can see how those bomb sites would have been very familiar to you on your daily run into town on the 84 bus. There's a 1941 photograph of bomb damage in Newfoundland Road here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2050158026/in/set-72157603190450413 My journeys to town were less frequent than yours and in the 1970s and 1980s involved lots of trips to Gardiner Haskins on Broad Plain, which had once been the soap works where my grandfather worked. We also frequented Park Street, where we attended an optician's which closed around 1986/1987. I had attended this optician's since 1960, but had never realized, until around a decade or ago, that Park Street had suffered bomb damage. There's a photograph of some of the bomb damage in Park Street here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2050367280 The caption notes how the houses in Park Street were rebuilt in the 1950s, which explains why I didn't know about the bomb damage as Park Street wasn't on my beaten track as early as that. Josephine

There were still plenty of large and small (such as missing houses along the terraces in roads such as Newfoundland Street) bombsites when I was still going to school in Bristol in the first part of 1968. I know that by the end of the 1970s I hardly recognised a lot of the City Centre when I had cause to visit. I have recently bought a DVD of the first series of "Shoestring" which was filmed in 1979 and which I loved to watch at the time because it was filmed in Bristol (and area). Brought back some happy memories! Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:31 AM Subject: [B&S] When Bristol rebuilds -- English City The Growth and Future of Bristol (was A selection of some of the books ...) On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:05:04 +0100, Karen Francis <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a book called 'English City. The Growth and the Future of > Bristol' which was published in 1945 by J S Fry & Sons. What makes it of > particular interest, I think, is that in addition to a potted history > the book outlines the plans for post-war Bristol's development, looking > at what was being done elsewhere in Europe and the USA. I don't know > Bristol that well and so can't say how much, if any, of those plans came > to fruition. It it's interesting anyway. Hi Karen and Listers, It took me a while to locate my copy of this interesting book on my bookshelves. There is a section entitled 'When Bristol rebuilds' with drawings of how Bristol would look in the future. Among my first memories of the city are bomb sites. I can't remember when the bomb sites disappeared as they were always there in my early life, but Ian reckons they were still some bomb sites in the late 1960s when he first became acquainted with Bristol. Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:05:04 +0100, Karen Francis <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a book called 'English City. The Growth and the Future of > Bristol' which was published in 1945 by J S Fry & Sons. What makes it of > particular interest, I think, is that in addition to a potted history > the book outlines the plans for post-war Bristol's development, looking > at what was being done elsewhere in Europe and the USA. I don't know > Bristol that well and so can't say how much, if any, of those plans came > to fruition. It it's interesting anyway. Hi Karen and Listers, It took me a while to locate my copy of this interesting book on my bookshelves. There is a section entitled 'When Bristol rebuilds' with drawings of how Bristol would look in the future. Among my first memories of the city are bomb sites. I can't remember when the bomb sites disappeared as they were always there in my early life, but Ian reckons they were still some bomb sites in the late 1960s when he first became acquainted with Bristol. Josephine

Hi Listers, Thanks to B & S listers who forwarded a B & D message addressed to me. As some of you know, I only had a brief encounter with that list and have not been subscribed to it for over four years. The message concerned the CHANDLER surname and a link to The Chandler Family Association web site was given: http://chandlerfamilyassociation.org/ It looks like an interesting site if you have CHANDLER links. I see that there were people called CHANDLER or CHAUNDLER among the inhabitants of Bristol in 1696. Even earlier, Roger CHAUNDELER was to be one the executors of the 1385 will of John PEDEWELL burgess. Josephine

Hi Listers, A BBC article Bayeux Tapestry engraved onto crystal dish in Somerset http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-19787923 has led me to Autumn exhibition at Glastonbury Abbey http://www.glastonburyabbey.com/news_item.php?&dx=1&ob=3&rpn=news&id=4600 It all looks very interesting. Josephine

Dear all Thanks for your responses. I wasn't too sure about "document", and I was completely stumped by "bureau", so this is very helpful. Polly - the Lamrock you found was the grandson of the man mentioned in the note. I don't know exactly what "property" the note refers to, but there has always been talk that my Curtis ancestors once owned some land, and that somehow it had been lost. The F. Curtis mentioned in the note was a distant cousin. best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Polly Rubery Sent: 01 October 2012 19:04 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] Document interpretation Hi Karen & Mike I agree with what Karen has written....plus at top 1833 Lamrock Curtis, Dudwell Field Farm, Chewton Mendip, Near Bath [not quite sure what the next word is as part is missing] 15. M: The only Lamrock CURTIS on FreeBMD is a death registered in Dec 1864, Wells RD. In the 1841 census he is an Ag Lab aged 15 living in Chewton Mendip - in 1851 he has "gone for a solider" and is aged 28 and born Chuton SOM, and is in the Portman Barracks in St Marylebone. By 1861 he is back home with his parents in Chewton Mendip, again an Ag Lab.and aged 39. Not sure if that helps or not! Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Francis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Document interpretation As far as I can make out, roughly translated as: Made over property to some in family of us to revert to Thomas Curtis' family at end of their life but no trace of document at the year 1939. Suppose to have gone in bureau to F Curtis carpenter for repair about 1890 Karen Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2012, at 15:49, "Mike Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all > > I wonder if someone could have a crack at deciphering this note, which I > believe was written by my 2x great-grandfather Frank Curtis. > > www.boddyparts.co.uk/lamrock_note.jpg > > I've worked out most of it, but there are a couple of words I can't figure > out. > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karen & Mike I agree with what Karen has written....plus at top 1833 Lamrock Curtis, Dudwell Field Farm, Chewton Mendip, Near Bath [not quite sure what the next word is as part is missing] 15. M: The only Lamrock CURTIS on FreeBMD is a death registered in Dec 1864, Wells RD. In the 1841 census he is an Ag Lab aged 15 living in Chewton Mendip - in 1851 he has "gone for a solider" and is aged 28 and born Chuton SOM, and is in the Portman Barracks in St Marylebone. By 1861 he is back home with his parents in Chewton Mendip, again an Ag Lab.and aged 39. Not sure if that helps or not! Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Francis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Document interpretation As far as I can make out, roughly translated as: Made over property to some in family of us to revert to Thomas Curtis' family at end of their life but no trace of document at the year 1939. Suppose to have gone in bureau to F Curtis carpenter for repair about 1890 Karen Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2012, at 15:49, "Mike Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all > > I wonder if someone could have a crack at deciphering this note, which I > believe was written by my 2x great-grandfather Frank Curtis. > > www.boddyparts.co.uk/lamrock_note.jpg > > I've worked out most of it, but there are a couple of words I can't figure > out. > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, There are references to Roman, medieval and stone mine archaeological artefacts in the following article, which may be of interest to some listers: Keynsham event uncovers archaeological finds http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Keynsham-event-uncovers-archaeological-finds/story-17015372-detail/story.html Josephine

As far as I can make out, roughly translated as: Made over property to some in family of us to revert to Thomas Curtis' family at end of their life but no trace of document at the year 1939. Suppose to have gone in bureau to F Curtis carpenter for repair about 1890 Karen Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2012, at 15:49, "Mike Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all > > I wonder if someone could have a crack at deciphering this note, which I > believe was written by my 2x great-grandfather Frank Curtis. > > www.boddyparts.co.uk/lamrock_note.jpg > > I've worked out most of it, but there are a couple of words I can't figure > out. > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mike, To save each of us trying to decipher the whole thing, could you let us know what you've already worked out and/or which are the words you need help with? Regards, Jan ---------------------------------------- > > Dear all > > I wonder if someone could have a crack at deciphering this note, which I > believe was written by my 2x great-grandfather Frank Curtis. > > www.boddyparts.co.uk/lamrock_note.jpg > > I've worked out most of it, but there are a couple of words I can't figure > out. > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear all I wonder if someone could have a crack at deciphering this note, which I believe was written by my 2x great-grandfather Frank Curtis. www.boddyparts.co.uk/lamrock_note.jpg I've worked out most of it, but there are a couple of words I can't figure out. Mike

I have a book called 'English City. The Growth and the Future of Bristol' which was published in 1945 by J S Fry & Sons. What makes it of particular interest, I think, is that in addition to a potted history the book outlines the plans for post-war Bristol's development, looking at what was being done elsewhere in Europe and the USA. I don't know Bristol that well and so can't say how much, if any, of those plans came to fruition. It it's interesting anyway. Karen

Some of the older out of copyright Bristol related books listed on the Bristol Bibliography and mentioned elsewhere are available to read or download in various formats from several web sites below. Google also lists copies for sale so its a good idea to use "Advanced Book Search" to select "Full view only" books. Most of the books digitised are from libraries in USA. http://books.google.com/ http://openlibrary.org/ http://archive.org/details/texts However you could just search for all books with "Bristol" in the title and Google books lists 315 downloadable books and archive.org lists 873. However you have to remember that not all relate to city of Bristol in Gloucestershire. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Gloucestershire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: 30 September 2012 18:24 To: [email protected] Subject: [B&S] Bristol Bibliography Hi Listers, If you enjoy looking at books about Bristol, you may find something of interest in three Bristol Bibliography web pages if you haven't seen them before. The first page is here: http://brisray.com/bristol/books1.htm Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 30/09/2012 23:30, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Here's a selection of some of the books I have used in my research over > the years: Two books (amongst many) I refer to from time to time are: A "Book about Bristol", by John Taylor, librarian of Bristol Museum & Library, published by Houlston & Sons, London 1872. Historical & other associations with Bristol. "Gloucestershire Transportees" including those transported on the First Fleet. edited by I. Wyatt, published by The Bristol & Gloucestershire Archaeological Society 1988. Reg Harris > > Allsop, Niall, Images of the Kennet & Avon 100 years in Camera Bristol to > Bradford-on-Avon (1987) > Arrowsmith’s Dictionary of Bristol (2nd edn. 1906) > Arrowsmith, J.W., Guide to Bristol, Clifton & District (1906) > Baddeley, M.J.B., Bath and Bristol and Forty Miles Round (1902) > Braine, A., The History of Kingswood Forest (1891) > Bristol and its Environs (1875) > Buchanan, R.A. and Cossons, Neil, Industrial History in Pictures: Bristol > (1970) > Chilcott, J., Chilcott’s Descriptive History of Bristol (1844) > Cliffe, Charles Frederick, The Book of South Wales, The Bristol Channel, > Monmouthshire, and The Wye (1847) > Farr, Grahame, Bristol Shipbuilding in the Nineteenth Century (1971) > Farr, Grahame, Somerset Harbours (1954) > Hill, John C. G., Shipshape and Bristol Fashion (1950s) > Jones, Donald, Bristol Past (2000) > Leech, Joseph, edited by Sutton, Alan, Rural Rides of a Bristol Churchgoer > (1982) > Lewis, Brian, Fisher, Janet and Derek, Bygone Bristol: Hotwells and the > City Docks on old postcards (nd) > Lord, John and Southam, Jem, The Floating Harbour: A Landscape History of > Bristol City Docks (1983) > Nicholls, J.F., and Taylor, John, Bristol Past and Present (1882 vol.3) > Reid, W. N., and Hicks, W.E., Leading Events in the History of the Port of > Bristol (c.1877) > Stephenson, Dave, Jones, Andy, Willmott, Jill and Cheesley, Dave, Images > of England: Crews Hole, St George and Speedwell (2003) > Stone, George Frederick, Bristol: as it was and as it is. (1909) > Stuckey, Peter J., The Sailing Pilots of the Bristol Channel (1999) > Thomas, Ethel, Down the 'Mouth: A History of Avonmouth (1981) > Thomas, Ethel, Shirehampton Story (1983) > Waters, Brian, The Bristol Channel (1955) > Watson, Sally, Secret Underground Bristol (1991) > > Josephine > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5300 - Release Date: 09/30/12

Hi Listers, Here's a selection of some of the books I have used in my research over the years: Allsop, Niall, Images of the Kennet & Avon 100 years in Camera Bristol to Bradford-on-Avon (1987) Arrowsmith’s Dictionary of Bristol (2nd edn. 1906) Arrowsmith, J.W., Guide to Bristol, Clifton & District (1906) Baddeley, M.J.B., Bath and Bristol and Forty Miles Round (1902) Braine, A., The History of Kingswood Forest (1891) Bristol and its Environs (1875) Buchanan, R.A. and Cossons, Neil, Industrial History in Pictures: Bristol (1970) Chilcott, J., Chilcott’s Descriptive History of Bristol (1844) Cliffe, Charles Frederick, The Book of South Wales, The Bristol Channel, Monmouthshire, and The Wye (1847) Farr, Grahame, Bristol Shipbuilding in the Nineteenth Century (1971) Farr, Grahame, Somerset Harbours (1954) Hill, John C. G., Shipshape and Bristol Fashion (1950s) Jones, Donald, Bristol Past (2000) Leech, Joseph, edited by Sutton, Alan, Rural Rides of a Bristol Churchgoer (1982) Lewis, Brian, Fisher, Janet and Derek, Bygone Bristol: Hotwells and the City Docks on old postcards (nd) Lord, John and Southam, Jem, The Floating Harbour: A Landscape History of Bristol City Docks (1983) Nicholls, J.F., and Taylor, John, Bristol Past and Present (1882 vol.3) Reid, W. N., and Hicks, W.E., Leading Events in the History of the Port of Bristol (c.1877) Stephenson, Dave, Jones, Andy, Willmott, Jill and Cheesley, Dave, Images of England: Crews Hole, St George and Speedwell (2003) Stone, George Frederick, Bristol: as it was and as it is. (1909) Stuckey, Peter J., The Sailing Pilots of the Bristol Channel (1999) Thomas, Ethel, Down the 'Mouth: A History of Avonmouth (1981) Thomas, Ethel, Shirehampton Story (1983) Waters, Brian, The Bristol Channel (1955) Watson, Sally, Secret Underground Bristol (1991) Josephine

Hi Listers, If you enjoy looking at books about Bristol, you may find something of interest in three Bristol Bibliography web pages if you haven't seen them before. The first page is here: http://brisray.com/bristol/books1.htm Josephine

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:47:23 +0100, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Josephine > Hope you are well? We stayed at the Bristol Royal at the beginning of > September and looked at the statue then of Raja. I'm pleased to see > that he is being remembered still. > Best wishes, Lin Hi Lin, Yes, I'm well thank you. Still learning new things every day. I didn't know about the statue of Raja Rammohun Roy outside Bristol Cathedral before today though I knew about his tomb in Arnos Vale Cemetery. There must be lots more things to discover about Bristol and neighbourhood if only we knew where to look or are pointed in the right direction. Josephine

Hello list Familysearch shows a marriage between a William ROSS or a William ROSE to a Sarah DORY on 8th January 1839 at St John the Baptist in Bristol. It gives his father as William ROSE/ROSS and her Father as Thomas DORY https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTSF-7SJ Ancestry & findmypast BMD indexes lists this as a marriage between a William ROSE and a Sarah DRY. I have long been looking for a marriage between a William ROSE & Sarah DORY, but closer to where they lived in Winsley in Wiltshire, and prior to the first baptism of their children that I can find (1837, although they could both be the parents of a William born in 1834). Before I order the certificate for this, does anyone by any chance have access to the images from the actual parish records - I could rule this marriage further in or definitely out depending on the occupations/residence for William & his father. Many thanks Louisa

Hi Listers, A BBC article has caught my eye: Indian reformer Raja Rammohun Roy celebrated http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-19773060 The tomb of Raja Rammohun Roy is in Arnos Vale Cemetery. Josephine

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:32:37 +0100, Ian Sage <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for that link, Josephine. It's one I haven't come across before. > I am not sure if your search led you to the information (which I am > unable to verify) that Jonathan Presto was a pseudonym for Charles > CHALLENGER - a surname which I know appears in the ancestry of listers. Hi Ian, Yes, I did come across Charles CHALLENGER, when I was looking for information about Five Years of Colliery Life. I thought of my Ian's CHALLENGER family in Clutton and wondered if there was a link with the CHALLENGERs of Clutton. I also saw an address of Fishponds Road, Bristol on this web page: http://www23.us.archive.org/stream/bibliothecasome02greegoog/bibliothecasome02greegoog_djvu.txt > In the style of the day, he is fairly careful not to give specific names > of pits and people, but he relates how he began work in September 1864, > aged 12 at a colliery which had then been working for 40 years... it > therefore seems probable that he began work locally, either at the Fry's > Bottom or Greyfield pits. Thanks for giving further information about this book. I know that if Maggie Perkins was still with us she would have been interested in knowing about it, too. > The book gives much the best first hand report of Somerset coal mining > that I am aware of, and though the account is doubtless sanitised for > wider consumption I regard it as a bit of a treasure. I'm sure it is a treasure. You've reminded me that, when we were younger, we had some mining books dating from the early 20th century, which nowadays I would probably think of as treasures. But as we were about to leave Wales and I wasn't yet fully into family history, I didn't think we would need anything to do with coal again. (How wrong I was!) So we sold the books to a specialist book dealer who dealt in books on industrial subjects. There was one hard-covered book, which was actually a folded up map showing the mines in the South Wales coalfield. Now that would have been a treasure if we'd kept it! Josephine