Hi Charani Thank you for these hints. I looked on FMP and didn't find this couple but I did find his father, William Heatly VERRIERE, who apparently divorced his first wife Jane Henrietta nee GREEN in 1864. Louis and Mary were together in 1901, with son Harry who was apparently born in Manchester in 1891, but I have not yet found his birth registration. They didn't marry until 1892. Louis's first wife, Hannah SIDDONS, died in 1887. The more I find about this family, the more tangled it gets! Just the thing for a snowbound evening!! Marion On 19 December 2010 18:20, Charani <[email protected]> wrote: > Marion wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure that divorce was expensive and rare in those days, but is > > there way to find evidence if one took place? > > You are right to surmise divorce was expensive then. It was nothing > unusual for couples to go their separate ways and be done with it. > > Are the couple together in 1901? Or had they already separated? > > If the couple had separated 7 years earlier and had had no contact > with one another, they were able to marry on the presumption of the > death of their former spouse under the 7 year rule. In the event of > the first spouse reappearing on the scene, no legal action would > normally have been taken against any of the parties even though the > marriage/s would have been bigamous, but the first (legal) marriage > would have stood and the couple would have been expected to resume > their marital state as though nothing had happened. > > Only a fairly small percentage of divorce papers have survived but you > could try either FMP (Marital causes database) or the National > Archives. If you do find the divorce, the papers can include the > names and DoBs of any children, a copy of the marriage cert as well as > any addresses the couple lived at and a wealth of other information. > > One divorce I found appeared to have been contrived because the wife > defended her husband's action by saying he'd put her in such a > position that she had no choice but to commit adultery! > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marion wrote: > Thank you for these hints. YW :)) > I looked on FMP and didn't find this couple but I did find his > father, William Heatly VERRIERE, who apparently divorced his first > wife Jane Henrietta nee GREEN in 1864. You should be able to find that in the National Archives and be able to download the first 10 pages more or less immediately or ask for the whole file relating to them to be sent to you. > Louis and Mary were together in 1901, with son Harry who was > apparently born in Manchester in 1891, but I have not yet found his > birth registration. They didn't marry until 1892. Have you looked for Harry's birth under his mother's maiden name? > The more I find about this family, the more tangled it gets! Just > the thing for a snowbound evening!! I have a family like that too :)) Fun, aren't they? :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I'm just on the NA site now. I have looked in the past for Harry's birth under both names. Now that the BMDs for Lancashire are online, I'll take another look and see if it's there. I do like a good mystery and I really appreciate the internet resources that help us so quickly these days. I started researching in the days when you had to wait until your annual holiday to do your research! Marion On 19 December 2010 19:06, Charani <[email protected]> wrote: > Marion wrote: > > > Thank you for these hints. > > YW :)) > > > I looked on FMP and didn't find this couple but I did find his > > father, William Heatly VERRIERE, who apparently divorced his first > > wife Jane Henrietta nee GREEN in 1864. > > You should be able to find that in the National Archives and be able > to download the first 10 pages more or less immediately or ask for the > whole file relating to them to be sent to you. > > > Louis and Mary were together in 1901, with son Harry who was > > apparently born in Manchester in 1891, but I have not yet found his > > birth registration. They didn't marry until 1892. > > Have you looked for Harry's birth under his mother's maiden name? > > > The more I find about this family, the more tangled it gets! Just > > the thing for a snowbound evening!! > > I have a family like that too :)) Fun, aren't they? :)) > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marion wrote: > I'm just on the NA site now. I have looked in the past for Harry's birth > under both names. Now that the BMDs for Lancashire are online, I'll take > another look and see if it's there. It's quite possible you could find it there. Not all BMDs made it to the GRO and not all made it into the registers. > I do like a good mystery and I really appreciate the internet resources that > help us so quickly these days. I started researching in the days when you > had to wait until your annual holiday to do your research! You and me both then :)) I was lucky I used to work flexitime and was able to get an extra day off every month which I could spend at a record office or one of the London repositories. I lived near and worked in London at the time. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/