Can any lister tell me if or how I could find out whether a Bristol/Gloucestershire ancestor was a Quaker? Also I know that confectionery was a Quaker trade, would there be anywhere I could find some sort of directory where these ancestors may be listed? I have looked in various Trade Directories but have yet to find confectioners (or bakers doing confectionery in Bristol). I appreciate they may also be bakers but wouldn’t census and various certificates say 'bakers' as opposed to 'confectioners' if they were both as confectionery appears to be a side line of only SOME bakers. Many thanks for any ideas Tricia

Hi Tricia You don't mention when your family were in the area. Several of us have access to Trade Directories but we would need an idea of when they were around as Directories are for specific years. Just in case some of you are wondering if I'm home from my travels yet??? I flew into Birmingham last night and am in cold Brum at the moment. Fingers crossed I just might drive home to Cornwall tomorrow. Best wishes to you all. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset --- On Sun, 5/12/10, Tricia <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tricia <[email protected]> > Subject: [B&D] Quakers etc > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 5 December, 2010, 11:05 > Can any lister tell me  if or > how I could find out whether a > Bristol/Gloucestershire ancestor was a Quaker? > > Also I know that confectionery was a Quaker trade, would > there be anywhere I > could find some sort of directory where these ancestors may > be listed?  I > have looked in various Trade Directories but have yet to > find confectioners > (or bakers doing confectionery in Bristol). > > I appreciate they may also be bakers but wouldn’t census > and various > certificates say 'bakers' as opposed to 'confectioners' if > they were both as > confectionery appears to be a side line of only SOME > bakers. > > Many thanks for any ideas > > Tricia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

ELIZABETH NEWBERY wrote: > Just in case some of you are wondering if I'm home from my travels > yet??? I flew into Birmingham last night and am in cold Brum at the > moment. Fingers crossed I just might drive home to Cornwall > tomorrow. Good to have you almost home :)) Watch out for the black ice though. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hello Liz, very kind of you to offer some help. The people in question are: Robert Chambers BALL bc 1785, in 1851 he was living in Eugene Lane, Temple, Bristol with daughters, Sarah Ingram BALL and Eliza Amelia BALL and his occupation was a confectioner. By 1871 Sarah was living with her nephew in Lower Lamb Lane, Bristol and her occupation was a shopkeeper. Then there is Joseph JAMES bc 1799, in 1841 he was in Union Place, Bristol and was a confectioner. By 1851 he was living in South Place, Bristol and now a foreman @ confectioner's, by 1871 he was in Trafalgar St, Bristol and a retired confectioner Joseph had a son Joseph b 1826 in Bedminster, who was a confectioner's apprentice in 1851 but sadly he died aged 23. Another son John Edward JAMES b 1829 also in Bedminster who married Eliza Amelia BALL in 1851 in Bristol and his marriage certificate says he was a confectioner, but shortly after their marriage they moved to Cardiff where John became a painter (rather a drastic change of profession don't you think?) Any ideas as to where I might look for help on the Quaker angle would also be appreciated. Living in the West Country myself I am sure that once you hit the M5 you will have no problem getting home to Cornwall - it is very cold but dry. Tricia -----Original Message----- From: ELIZABETH NEWBERY Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Quakers etc Hi Tricia You don't mention when your family were in the area. Several of us have access to Trade Directories but we would need an idea of when they were around as Directories are for specific years. Just in case some of you are wondering if I'm home from my travels yet??? I flew into Birmingham last night and am in cold Brum at the moment. Fingers crossed I just might drive home to Cornwall tomorrow. Best wishes to you all. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset --- On Sun, 5/12/10, Tricia <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tricia <[email protected]> > Subject: [B&D] Quakers etc > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 5 December, 2010, 11:05 > Can any lister tell me if or > how I could find out whether a > Bristol/Gloucestershire ancestor was a Quaker? > > Also I know that confectionery was a Quaker trade, would > there be anywhere I > could find some sort of directory where these ancestors may > be listed? I > have looked in various Trade Directories but have yet to > find confectioners > (or bakers doing confectionery in Bristol). > > I appreciate they may also be bakers but wouldn’t census > and various > certificates say 'bakers' as opposed to 'confectioners' if > they were both as > confectionery appears to be a side line of only SOME > bakers. > > Many thanks for any ideas > > Tricia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tricia Well, I've made it back to Penzance...it's not as warm as the Emirates, Singapore, New Zealand or Australis...but, it's home. Most of you will know that I've been on a very long trek and I've met at least 38 members of my distant tree during my journey including the latest member of my family aged 4 months and living in Dubai. Many thanks to everyone for your good wishes. The M5 was quite clear and the temperature rose from -6 to +5. It was still freezing when I passed through Bristol. Now back to research: I've just checked my tree. I have some Quakers - PETVINS from Street and they were confectioners and bakers and one branch moved up to Bedminster. Another moved to Hull, Yorkshire. Well, it was the female PETVINs and they were married. There are some quaker records in the Bristol Record Office but I found that most of these refer to the Frenchay area. Have you checked the Bristol Baptism Records transcribed by the Bristol Family History Society? Under normal circumstances I would look up for you (they have some good early records) but I donated my CDs to a very good kind member of our list while I was "down under" as they can't place an order using credit cards and I haven't had time to replace my copies yet. Please can someone look these people for Tricia. Cheers Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Tricia <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Tricia <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [B&D] Quakers etc > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 15:41 > Hello Liz, very kind of you to offer > some help. > > The people in question are: > Robert Chambers BALL bc 1785, in 1851 he was living in > Eugene Lane, Temple, > Bristol with daughters, Sarah Ingram BALL and Eliza Amelia > BALL and his > occupation was a confectioner. By 1871 Sarah was living > with her nephew in > Lower Lamb Lane, Bristol and her occupation was a > shopkeeper. >

On 05/12/2010 11:05, Tricia wrote: > Can any lister tell me if or how I could find out whether a > Bristol/Gloucestershire ancestor was a Quaker? There are two books, published by the Bristol Record Society, of transcripts and biiographical details of the Quaker Bristol Mens Meeting from 1667 to 1704 if that is in the time line you are interested in......Reg Harris > Also I know that confectionery was a Quaker trade, would there be anywhere I > could find some sort of directory where these ancestors may be listed? I > have looked in various Trade Directories but have yet to find confectioners > (or bakers doing confectionery in Bristol). > > I appreciate they may also be bakers but wouldn’t census and various > certificates say 'bakers' as opposed to 'confectioners' if they were both as > confectionery appears to be a side line of only SOME bakers. > > Many thanks for any ideas > > Tricia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3297 - Release Date: 12/04/10

The 1851 census has a Samuel Woolfrey who was born 1823 bristol living 20 Churchill Buildings St Phillip Jacob bristol confectioner 1861 Clarence road Confectioner 1880 Hotwell rd Confectioner 1891 Hotwell rd baker he was known as a Confectioner and Fancy bread maker Lorette --- On Sun, 5/12/10, Tricia <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also I know that confectionery was a Quaker trade, would > there be anywhere I > could find some sort of directory where these ancestors may > be listed?  I > have looked in various Trade Directories but have yet to > find confectioners > (or bakers doing confectionery in Bristol). > > I appreciate they may also be bakers but wouldn’t census > and various > certificates say 'bakers' as opposed to 'confectioners' if > they were both as > confectionery appears to be a side line of only SOME > bakers. > > > >