Sounds to me as if they just took your grandmother's address and supplied the details of those at the same address as her. Under the terms of this form, you would not then get any information on people NOT living at that address; and you can only apply for the details either of ONE address or ONE person. So an application with your father's details and information on the people living at that address would be necessary to get his details. Anyway I will let you know what I receive. But they won't send any details of those people still living (by their records), although I don't expect there to be - all her children are now dead, and as far as I know none of them had granchildren by that date who were likely to have been in the house. My interest is in whether she lived on her own, or had a "partner" - she had left my grandfather by 1914 - and even if he was a "toy-boy" he would probably be dead by now...:-)! Kind regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] 1939 National Registration Update Polly Rubery wrote: > Hi Charani > > Well if you have £42 to spare, all you need to do is to apply again, > giving > his name and date of birth and tick the option "Information on individual > named". I'd have a job to justify spending that much, esp as I could spend it elsewhere more profitably. > Haven't a claue why you should get details of someone else who wasn't at > the > address that you gave, unless you gave her names and DOB, and they just > went > by those. I think you applied before they had set out this application > form, so they might have been a bit vague as to what they were actually > supplying.... I did give my grandmother's full name and DoB, as I did for my father. They should have been able to find him, esp as he's the only one in the family with that combination of names. After all, they found my grandmother easily enough and her surname is a common one, ranked at 47 (IIRC) by Talesein and I didn't ask for any information on her sister and brother in law. Yes, I did apply before they decided to charge and ask people to complete a form. > Anyway I have sent off the details of my grandmother and asked for details > of up to 9 other residnats at the address - so we'll see what happens. It'll be interesting to know what you receive, without any identifying details particularly if still living people are included, if you wish to share it. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 18 Mar 2010 at 12:55, Polly Rubery wrote: > Anyway I will let you know what I receive. But they won't send any > details of those people still living (by their records), although I > don't expect there to be - all her children are now dead, and as far > as I know none of them had granchildren by that date who were likely > to have been in the house. > I don't know whether you are aware of this, Polly, but Guy Etchells, the Yorkshire genealogist whose appeal to the Information Commissioner was responsible for forcing the NHS's hand on this whole issue, has said he may make another appeal to try and get them to lift the ban on disclosing details of those who may still be alive. I sincerely hope he does and wins again, since it seems a ludicrous piece of nonsense on the part of the bureaucrats to withold details of where someone was living and who with more than 70 years ago. I don't know either whether listers know that Guy was also the man who forced The National Archives to release the 1911 census two years early with his Freedom of Information appeal, but we all owe him a very considerable debt of gratitude. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

<<snipped>> since it seems a ludicrous piece of nonsense on the part of the bureaucrats to withold details of where someone was living and who with more than 70 years ago. <<snipped>> Sorry - but I do not agree with this. We have no way of knowing whether those people would have revealed these details to their family and friends - they could have been living with someone, away from home, and never have wished that information to come out. If they didn't, we have no right to reveal it now while they are still alive. We all of us have heard of elderly relatives who go silent on certain topics - we have no right to force their truth out behind their backs while they can still be affected. Adrian B

Polly Rubery wrote: > Sounds to me as if they just took your grandmother's address and > supplied the details of those at the same address as her. My grandmother wasn't at her normal home address. I know she and my mother spent the war at her sister's. I didn't think they went in 1939 so it may just have been a normal family visit. My grandfather was at the family address though. My aunt was still living at the same address until the day she died. That's why I recognised it. > Under the terms of this form, you would not then get any > information on people NOT living at that address; and you can only > apply for the details either of ONE address or ONE person. I think it was a case, like you said, of them not really knowing what they were doing to begin with. It was a bonus for me though <G> > > So an application with your father's details and information on the > people living at that address would be necessary to get his > details. When I win the lottery (ha ha), I'll have a go at finding some of the other people in the family who are deceased and see what happens. > Anyway I will let you know what I receive. Thanks :)) It'll help others to know what they are likely to get if the decide to take the plunge. > My interest is in whether she lived on her own, or had a "partner" > - she had left my grandfather by 1914 - and even if he was a > "toy-boy" he would probably be dead by now...:-)! I hope you find the answer :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

>>My grandmother wasn't at her normal home address.<< Well I'm not 100% sure where mine was living in 1939, so I have put where I *think* she was living with a ? mark. However I know that she died there in 1962, so I put that date and the address in that "last known address" slot....:-) >>I think it was a case, like you said, of them not really knowing what they were doing to begin with. It was a bonus for me though <G><< Yes you were lucky there, especially if you got it for free...<VBG>! >>Thanks :)) It'll help others to know what they are likely to get if the decide to take the plunge.<< Yes I decided I could justify the expense against my tutoring fees as I need an example to show my students...<even bigger G>! >>I hope you find the answer :))<< Somehow I expect her to be living on her own. But we shall see... Polly