Dear Listers I have just spent the day at the Bristol records office and found NOTHING - despite having quite a lot of information to go on.  I have hit a brick wall.   If anyone would like to make suggestions for further clues, please read on. Information from Census.1901 @ 249 Hotwells Rd Bristol Although the following family should be Lambourne it has been wrongly transcribed as Lambert- it is definitely the right family. William Lambert 32 mar Baker bn Bath Som Sarah J Lambert 33 wife  bn Bradford Yorkshire william Lambert son 7 bn Bristol Frank Lambert son 5 born Bristol Mabel Lambert dau 3 bn Bristol (freebmd birth Dec 1/4 1898 Barton Regis 6a 126) Later that year son George Bertie was born (freebmd Sept 1901 Bristol 6a 55) Birth Cert confirms that he was born at 249 Hotwells Rd -father William but mother Lily Lightholder. - another anomaly! I have searched the parish records which include Hotwells Rd & the ones surrounding, i.e St Andrews Clifton, Holy Trinity Hotwell, St Andrew the lesser, no luck. I cannot find the baptisms of William, Frank Mabel or George Bertie.   Ten years later - 1911 census back to the name Lambourne. Frank is a cabinet maker boarding at Pennywell Road Bristol Mabel and George (age 12 & 9) are 'inmates' at a school in Keynsham.  I have subsequently discovered that they are at the Crescent homes Downend- a refuge for orphan & destitute children cared for by the Bristol Poor Law Union Board of Guardians. I cannot find the deaths of parents ( William and Sarah/Lily) either on Freebmd or Ancestry.  The parish records are not available - destroyed in the Blitz.   I thought of the possibility of one parent still alive and having to go into the workhouse whilst the children were looked after in the home.  Again some records destroyed in the Blitz.   No joy in electoral registers either!     Any suggestions gratefully received ----and thank you to anyone who has read this far.   Best wishes Pat

Pat Have you looked for bakers in the trade directories for Bristol and surrounding area? Or a street directory such as Kellys for Lambournes? If you cannot get back to the RO you could look here http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/ You may like to bear in mind that some ROs, such as Norwich, only keep a few street directories and most are kept in the local libraries/local studies centres. One other thing to consider is that the churchyard might have been closed for burials by 1901 - 1911 and you might do better to look at the local authority cemetery records. The cemeteries own set of records might have survived the blitz. I suggest you check whether there any burial records post 1945 for the churches you have mentioned before you go down the cemetery route though. The Lambourns might have been a non conformist family in which case you need to look at different sets of registers. Have you found the marriage certs for all the children and do they say deceased for the father as this might give you a clue regarding the time frame for the parents' death, especially for William jnr and Frank's marriages. Prison and psychiatric hospitals plus newspaper deaths are other options. Good hunting HB --- On Fri, 16/4/10, pat bernie <thebulleys@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > From: pat bernie <thebulleys@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [B&D] suggestions please for further research > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 21:41 > Dear Listers > I have just spent the day at the Bristol records office and > found NOTHING - despite having quite a lot of information to > go on.  I have hit a brick wall.   If anyone would like > to make suggestions for further clues, please read on. > > Information from Census.1901 @ 249 Hotwells Rd Bristol > Although the following family should be Lambourne it has > been wrongly transcribed as Lambert- it is definitely the > right family. > William Lambert 32 mar Baker bn Bath Som > Sarah J Lambert 33 wife  bn Bradford Yorkshire > william Lambert son 7 bn Bristol > Frank Lambert son 5 born Bristol > Mabel Lambert dau 3 bn Bristol (freebmd birth Dec 1/4 1898 > Barton Regis 6a 126) > > Later that year son George Bertie was born (freebmd Sept > 1901 Bristol 6a 55) > Birth Cert confirms that he was born at 249 Hotwells Rd > -father William but mother Lily Lightholder. - another > anomaly! > > I have searched the parish records which include Hotwells > Rd & the ones surrounding, i.e St Andrews Clifton, Holy > Trinity Hotwell, St Andrew the lesser, no luck. I cannot > find the baptisms of William, Frank Mabel or George Bertie. >   > Ten years later - 1911 census back to the name Lambourne. > Frank is a cabinet maker boarding at Pennywell Road Bristol > > Mabel and George (age 12 & 9) are 'inmates' at a school > in Keynsham.  > I have subsequently discovered that they are at the > Crescent homes Downend- a refuge for orphan & destitute > children cared for by the Bristol Poor Law Union Board of > Guardians. > I cannot find the deaths of parents ( William and > Sarah/Lily) either on Freebmd or Ancestry.  The parish > records are not available - destroyed in the Blitz. >   > I thought of the possibility of one parent still alive and > having to go into the workhouse whilst the children were > looked after in the home.  Again some records destroyed in > the Blitz. >   > No joy in electoral registers either! >   >   > Any suggestions gratefully received ----and thank you to > anyone who has read this far. >   > Best wishes > Pat > >

OK, here's my two penn'orth! You seem to have a Sarah and a Lily. Do you think there could definitely be two separate women there? Sarah got fed up with William and left him with the children, he then shacked up with Lily! Perhaps Lily got fed up with him too and walked out. William might have emigrated! He might have walked out on Lily leaving all his children with her and she probably didn't want them so she put them in care??? There is a William LAMBERT age 53 died in Bath in Jun 1904. I recently sent for a Death Certificate which was 20 years out...I was convinced it was mine and I was right. Having looked at that page of the GRO it's not that clear anyway. 249 Hotwells Road appears to be missing from the census in 1911. Did you look at Kellys Directory while you were at the Record Office - they have several copies there and I found them very helpful. As for the baptisms - not everyone bothered to get their children baptised after the GRO started as they had to pay for the Birth Registration so they saw no point in paying twice unless they were religious! At the beginning of Registration not everyone bothered to register their children, believing that Baptism would suffice and it was probably cheaper! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat bernie" <thebulleys@yahoo.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: [B&D] suggestions please for further research Dear Listers I have just spent the day at the Bristol records office and found NOTHING - despite having quite a lot of information to go on. I have hit a brick wall. If anyone would like to make suggestions for further clues, please read on. Information from Census.1901 @ 249 Hotwells Rd Bristol Although the following family should be Lambourne it has been wrongly transcribed as Lambert- it is definitely the right family. William Lambert 32 mar Baker bn Bath Som Sarah J Lambert 33 wife bn Bradford Yorkshire william Lambert son 7 bn Bristol Frank Lambert son 5 born Bristol Mabel Lambert dau 3 bn Bristol (freebmd birth Dec 1/4 1898 Barton Regis 6a 126) Later that year son George Bertie was born (freebmd Sept 1901 Bristol 6a 55) Birth Cert confirms that he was born at 249 Hotwells Rd -father William but mother Lily Lightholder. - another anomaly! I have searched the parish records which include Hotwells Rd & the ones surrounding, i.e St Andrews Clifton, Holy Trinity Hotwell, St Andrew the lesser, no luck. I cannot find the baptisms of William, Frank Mabel or George Bertie. Ten years later - 1911 census back to the name Lambourne. Frank is a cabinet maker boarding at Pennywell Road Bristol Mabel and George (age 12 & 9) are 'inmates' at a school in Keynsham. I have subsequently discovered that they are at the Crescent homes Downend- a refuge for orphan & destitute children cared for by the Bristol Poor Law Union Board of Guardians. I cannot find the deaths of parents ( William and Sarah/Lily) either on Freebmd or Ancestry. The parish records are not available - destroyed in the Blitz. I thought of the possibility of one parent still alive and having to go into the workhouse whilst the children were looked after in the home. Again some records destroyed in the Blitz. No joy in electoral registers either! Any suggestions gratefully received ----and thank you to anyone who has read this far. Best wishes Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message