Syston seems to have the greatest concentration of the surname Jefferies and variations in the Bristol area. Many years ago after a visit to the churchyard I estimated that pre 1800 around 1/3 of the graves were for Jefferies etc. Even today Syston is only a hamlet but the parish included Warmley until a separate parish was created in 1851. Some of the grave stones are large indicating rich business men but the fact that they had any sort of grave stone must mean they were quite well off. So hopefully not all the Jefferies in the area were rogues, unless that is how some became rich! My GG Grandfather who was born in this area around 1792 but was just an "Ag Lab". Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Frey Sent: 18 January 2010 11:31 To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&D] JEFFERIES of Warmley I came across this recently and thought some JEFFERIES researchers might be interested: "1955 Crown Farm has stood for several hundred years on the east side of Tower Road North, Warmley, adjacent to the junction with Station Road. A 1610 map of Kingswood Forest shows a building called Jeffrayes House, this was possibly Crown Farm. The Jeffrayes in the area greatly upset a Siston parish priest, for in a memorandum of the parish registers for 1625 he wrote, 'Ye Jeffrayes and Tukers of Warmley are rogues, whores and thieves and WT not YT is wicked.' Records show members of the Jefferies family were living in Crown Farm into the 19th century. In the early part of that century the property was purchased by George M. Davidson of Warmley House and subsequently was owned by the Haskins family. At one time Crown Farm was divided into several dwellings. In the late 19th century Crown Farm became the venue for the local Council meetings. This continued until 1900 when the new council offices in Stanley Road were built. (from Warmley & Siston - One Hundred years of history - Part 4 of 7 - 1940 - 1959)" Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.147/2628 - Release Date: 01/17/10 07:35:00

What was "just an ag lab" in the 1700s? They really weren't very good at giving titles to jobs. Remember, even in the 20th century, titles for the same job changed radically and regularly. Take Binman/Dustbin man...he became a refuse collector and is probably now something to do with environmental waste remover! A domestic servant became a chambermaid and now they call themselves housekeepers or even personal organisers! So, in the 1790s anyone who worked the land might refer to themselves as an Agricultural Labourer - he might be a hedger and ditcher, a thatcher, a dairyman, a cow herdsman, they might have built cow sheds, barns, the ideas were endless - they just worked for a farmer and did whatever skills they had. As far as they were concerned, they would say they were agricultural labourers. So, don't decry your Ag Lab. The country could not survive without them...there was no such thing as a CEO! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] JEFFERIES of Warmley > Syston seems to have the greatest concentration of the surname Jefferies > and > variations in the Bristol area. Many years ago after a visit to the > churchyard I estimated that pre 1800 around 1/3 of the graves were for > Jefferies etc. Even today Syston is only a hamlet but the parish included > Warmley until a separate parish was created in 1851. > > Some of the grave stones are large indicating rich business men but the > fact > that they had any sort of grave stone must mean they were quite well off. > So > hopefully not all the Jefferies in the area were rogues, unless that is > how > some became rich! My GG Grandfather who was born in this area around 1792 > but was just an "Ag Lab". > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Frey > Sent: 18 January 2010 11:31 > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B&D] JEFFERIES of Warmley > > I came across this recently and thought some JEFFERIES researchers might > be > interested: > > "1955 > Crown Farm has stood for several hundred years on the east side of Tower > Road North, Warmley, adjacent to the junction with Station Road. A 1610 > map > of Kingswood Forest shows a building called Jeffrayes House, this was > possibly Crown Farm. The Jeffrayes in the area greatly upset a Siston > parish > > priest, for in a memorandum of the parish registers for 1625 he wrote, 'Ye > Jeffrayes and Tukers of Warmley are rogues, whores and thieves and WT not > YT > > is wicked.' > > Records show members of the Jefferies family were living in Crown Farm > into > the 19th century. In the early part of that century the property was > purchased by George M. Davidson of Warmley House and subsequently was > owned > by the Haskins family. > > At one time Crown Farm was divided into several dwellings. In the late > 19th > century Crown Farm became the venue for the local Council meetings. This > continued until 1900 when the new council offices in Stanley Road were > built. > > (from Warmley & Siston - One Hundred years of history - Part 4 of 7 - > 1940 - > > 1959)" > > Regards, > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset > Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group > Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group > Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group > Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group > Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group > Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group > Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.147/2628 - Release Date: > 01/17/10 > 07:35:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Liz wrote: > So, in the 1790s anyone who worked the land might refer to themselves as an > Agricultural Labourer - he might be a hedger and ditcher, a thatcher, a > dairyman, a cow herdsman, they might have built cow sheds, barns, the ideas > were endless - they just worked for a farmer and did whatever skills they > had. As far as they were concerned, they would say they were agricultural > labourers. So, don't decry your Ag Lab. The country could not survive > without them...there was no such thing as a CEO! CEO is an variation on a theme as well <G> "Ag lab" was very much a generic term although many people, especically those just starting out on their research, who believe ag labs grubbed the earth. Some did, of curse, but not all by any means. In the Walton parish registers one particular father was described as an ag lab at the baptisms of most of his children. However, there's one notable exception in between them when he was described as a "turf merchant". He goes back to being an ag lab again for subsequent children. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk