Liz,after many years of trying,I finally was accepted in to a Local Building Society. The reason for me NOT being able to join was I didn't have a Passport Or a Driving LIcence. I did produce my Birth Certificate along with a current Bill for Gas and another Bill for Electricity,along with a Water Bill. All of them,including my birth certificate showed my Current Address. Yes,Ive lived in the same house since my Birth 64 years ago.[I'm actually 64 on Saturday October the second.] None of the above however was accepted by the Building Society. But after a word with the Manager,she finally found me after several attempts of looking,at the "Electoral Register". I even mentioned the fact that my family had lived in the same street here in Canton,Cardiff for the last 95 years. Which didn't mean a hill of beans to her. Her rules were Their Rules. You should see the Trouble I get when I want to take out any of My OWN money from there. Anything over 500 quid means an Inquisition. Still,Its for my own protection. Cheers Graham. -- Graham Williams.of Canton,Cardiff. Glam;FHS;#551. "Genealogy",Where Progress is made going Backwards."