Good morning B&Ders, A white one this morning, I vould not make up my mind whether we had had a sprinkling of the white stuff or a heavy frost this morning here in outer London. Pronunciation, please for Uley. Is it like the log, Yule ly or Ooh (la la) ly? Or even, like the public school, is the "ly" pronounced as in "lie" (down) rather than the meadow (lee/lea)? [ That would give us four possibilities with two for each syllable! ] Many thanks Phil

Thank you to all the helpful answers to my question. Mechanical or Motor transport may be the answer so now I can look on the TNA site to see what comes up under that. Thanks again Anne Megget from a bright, sunny & hot NZ

Greetings from NZ Does anyone know what the intials M T after Army Pensioner stand for please. The occupation field on a 1911 census says General Labourer (Army Pensioner M T). I have all the census entires for this chap except for 1861 which I can not find him on after numerous searches, and none of the earlier census entries mention the Army pensioner bit. He dies in 1912 age 76. He was in Bristol or Bedminster for all the census entries, first one 1841 and in his adult life is listed as a general labourer. Can't find on Google what the initals may be for. I haven't found a will for him and I am in the process of searching the Index to the Probate Calendars again. Many thanks Anne Megget New Zealand

Hi Robyn I imagine many of them wouldn't have had shoes. I know in England in Victorian times children were often absent from school when it snowed because they had no shoes (read in school log books) and it was too cold for them to walk to school. I recall that in London they still had a troop of Bare foot Girl Guides even in the early 1950s. I don't know when this died out in Bristol but it must have been similar. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Horan" <robynvh2@gmail.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [B&D] Australian BDM Certificates [WAS Buckingham Villas was-Francis Edward LONG married Clifton1880] > And the clothing would have added to it. Can you imagine the heat and > stickiness in those long heavy dresses and with long hair. And not be able > to kick your shoes off and go bare footed. Or jump into the shower every > day. > > Cheers > Robyn, in Sydney - where it's a bit hot and sticky, but I have my shoes > off. > > > 2009/12/31 Liz <e.newbery@btinternet.com> > >> Thank you Yvonne, that will be most helpful. I was hearing from one of >> my >> contacts in Perth today and although I've lived in the Middle East for >> much >> of my life, we did have air-conditioning when I first went there. >> Thinking >> back in history it occurred to me what a shock it must have been for our >> ancestors who emigrated 100 years ago - no electricity, no air >> conditioning, >> only a simple fan to hold in their hands if they were lucky, probably no >> running water, perhaps a well but was the water safe to drink? I know >> our >> water wasn't safe. So many terrible conditions that they had to endure >> in >> those days and yet they often encouraged their friends and family to >> emigrate too. >> >> The conditions in which they lived in England must have been horrendous >> to >> make them want to leave these shores. >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

And the clothing would have added to it. Can you imagine the heat and stickiness in those long heavy dresses and with long hair. And not be able to kick your shoes off and go bare footed. Or jump into the shower every day. Cheers Robyn, in Sydney - where it's a bit hot and sticky, but I have my shoes off. 2009/12/31 Liz <e.newbery@btinternet.com> > Thank you Yvonne, that will be most helpful. I was hearing from one of my > contacts in Perth today and although I've lived in the Middle East for much > of my life, we did have air-conditioning when I first went there. Thinking > back in history it occurred to me what a shock it must have been for our > ancestors who emigrated 100 years ago - no electricity, no air > conditioning, > only a simple fan to hold in their hands if they were lucky, probably no > running water, perhaps a well but was the water safe to drink? I know our > water wasn't safe. So many terrible conditions that they had to endure in > those days and yet they often encouraged their friends and family to > emigrate too. > > The conditions in which they lived in England must have been horrendous to > make them want to leave these shores. > >

A Megget wrote: > Thank you to all the helpful answers to my question. > Mechanical or Motor transport may be the answer so now I can look on the TNA > site to see what comes up under that. Just put your man's name in the search box and that should bring up anything for anyone with that name. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Liz, I could not help with the PERRY but thought if the Richard HATHERELL was to be "worked on" at some time my lot might be of use, then. If Hester/Esther PERRY (Babycham, any one?) came from London, then there is one poossible bp in St Dunstan, Stepney, another source for my WARTON/JOHNSON/GARDNER lot who link into the Fletcher CHRISTIAN IOM family. "I've been everywhere, man" should be my sig. tune, I think! Phil On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Liz <e.newbery@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Phil > I had noticed that you had a load of HATHERELLs on your web site but I don't > think any matched and really we are now looking for PERRYs as the HATHERELL > was a first marriage as opposed to a maiden name. > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Warn" <philwarnorp@googlemail.com> > To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:29 PM > Subject: [B&D] The HATHERELL surname > > >> Dear B&D clan, >> >> First and foremost, a happy and a healthy new year to one & all. >> >> I have seen the query about HATHERELL. >> >> The OP and other interested parties might do worse to go to my WARN >> family web site where I have links, through blood and marriage to some >> 8,000 peeps. >> >> I have no less than 80 HATHERELL souls. >> >> None actually from Corston, Wil but from parishes quite close as the >> crow (or PARLOC) flies. >> >> Indeed, given that I cover all English counties including tiny >> Rutland, and that my paternal links may well (eventually) link to the >> three Bristol parishes of Bitton, Hanham and Oldland, where WARNE folk >> have been spotted in PRs as early as the 16th century, I and my lot do >> link to many parishes in the B&D area. >> >> Go here for further details >> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm >> >> Many thanks >> >> Phil >> Orpington, Kent & Greater London >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Phil I had noticed that you had a load of HATHERELLs on your web site but I don't think any matched and really we are now looking for PERRYs as the HATHERELL was a first marriage as opposed to a maiden name. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Warn" <philwarnorp@googlemail.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: [B&D] The HATHERELL surname > Dear B&D clan, > > First and foremost, a happy and a healthy new year to one & all. > > I have seen the query about HATHERELL. > > The OP and other interested parties might do worse to go to my WARN > family web site where I have links, through blood and marriage to some > 8,000 peeps. > > I have no less than 80 HATHERELL souls. > > None actually from Corston, Wil but from parishes quite close as the > crow (or PARLOC) flies. > > Indeed, given that I cover all English counties including tiny > Rutland, and that my paternal links may well (eventually) link to the > three Bristol parishes of Bitton, Hanham and Oldland, where WARNE folk > have been spotted in PRs as early as the 16th century, I and my lot do > link to many parishes in the B&D area. > > Go here for further details > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm > > Many thanks > > Phil > Orpington, Kent & Greater London > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

there is a HATHERILL (HATHERELL) will Anthony, husb Fayerford, Glou 1655 On 1-Jan-10, at 4:29 AM, Phil Warn wrote: > > > I have seen the query about HATHERELL.

in a 1745 book refering to laying first stone of the exchange of Bristol one of the subscribers is a George HATHERELL On 1-Jan-10, at 4:29 AM, Phil Warn wrote: > Dear B&D clan, > > First and foremost, a happy and a healthy new year to one & all. > > I have seen the query about HATHERELL. > > The OP and other interested parties might do worse to go to my WARN > family web site where I have links, through blood and marriage to some > 8,000 peeps. > > I have no less than 80 HATHERELL souls.

On 31-Dec-09, at 1:56 PM, Liz wrote: > Hi Pat..You are excused your boozing as it's new year's eve:-) > > There is an Alethia Hester PERRY bpt. at Henbury to Richard and > Jane on 31 > Jul 1803. Apart from that, in the Bristol Transcripts, there's a > Esther > Jane in 1788 which seems too early for yours and the same couple > have a > Hester on 5th Aug 1792 so presumably the first one died. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message on the 1776 poll John HATHERELL of Tresham, Kilcot and Saddlewood land of John LONGDEN place of abode Badington parva

In a message dated 01/01/2010 00:09:16 GMT Standard Time, familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk writes: . . . to all on the list, lurkers included :)) and may it be a brickwall busting, lost ancestor finding 2010!! :)) Thank you Charani, the very same to you and yours and all other listers. Happy New Year , Cathy

Dear B&D clan, First and foremost, a happy and a healthy new year to one & all. I have seen the query about HATHERELL. The OP and other interested parties might do worse to go to my WARN family web site where I have links, through blood and marriage to some 8,000 peeps. I have no less than 80 HATHERELL souls. None actually from Corston, Wil but from parishes quite close as the crow (or PARLOC) flies. Indeed, given that I cover all English counties including tiny Rutland, and that my paternal links may well (eventually) link to the three Bristol parishes of Bitton, Hanham and Oldland, where WARNE folk have been spotted in PRs as early as the 16th century, I and my lot do link to many parishes in the B&D area. Go here for further details http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm Many thanks Phil Orpington, Kent & Greater London

Could it be Motor Transport, ie he was a driver???? Gillie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 10124 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Charani wrote: >>Not everyone left a will but if he did, it might have been destroyed during WWII.<< A copy of all wills proved after 7 Jan 1858 was kept by the Principal Probate Registry in London, and so there shouldn't be a problem for someone who was still alive in 1911.... Happy New Year to all! Polly

..... My Oxford Dictionary says MT = Mechanical Transport (or Motor) Would that be a possibility? Edna - snowy Ottawa a Healthy New Year to all

My Oxford Dictionary says MT = Mechanical Transport Would that be a possibility? Edna - snowy Ottawa a Healthy New Year to all

A Megget wrote: > Greetings from NZ > Does anyone know what the intials M T after Army Pensioner stand for please. > The occupation field on a 1911 census says General Labourer (Army Pensioner > M T). > I have all the census entires for this chap except for 1861 which I can not > find him on after numerous searches, and none of the earlier census entries > mention the Army pensioner bit. He dies in 1912 age 76. > He was in Bristol or Bedminster for all the census entries, first one 1841 > and in his adult life is listed as a general labourer. He could have been abroad in the Army at the time of the 1861. Have you had a look on The National Archives site to see if his service record is there? > Can't find on Google what the initals may be for. > I haven't found a will for him and I am in the process of searching the > Index to the Probate Calendars again. Not everyone left a will but if he did, it might have been destroyed during WWII. What was his name? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Dear Blisters, >From a transcription of the parish registers of Wedmore, Somerset. The burial of Elizabetha PULLEN. PULLEN Elizabetha 5 Feb 1662 Bristoll, stranger from Bristol Source: http://www.tutton.org/burialsp.html Cheers, Don Cameron. -- Chlanna nan con thigibh a so's gheibh sibh feoil.

Dear Blisters, >From a transcription of the parish registers of Wedmore, Somerset. The burial of Edmundus PRESTWICH. PRESTWICH Edmundus 25 Aug 1689 Bristoll Source: http://www.tutton.org/burialsp.html Cheers, Don Cameron. -- Chlanna nan con thigibh a so's gheibh sibh feoil.