I came across this recently and thought some JEFFERIES researchers might be interested: "1955 Crown Farm has stood for several hundred years on the east side of Tower Road North, Warmley, adjacent to the junction with Station Road. A 1610 map of Kingswood Forest shows a building called Jeffrayes House, this was possibly Crown Farm. The Jeffrayes in the area greatly upset a Siston parish priest, for in a memorandum of the parish registers for 1625 he wrote, 'Ye Jeffrayes and Tukers of Warmley are rogues, whores and thieves and WT not YT is wicked.' Records show members of the Jefferies family were living in Crown Farm into the 19th century. In the early part of that century the property was purchased by George M. Davidson of Warmley House and subsequently was owned by the Haskins family. At one time Crown Farm was divided into several dwellings. In the late 19th century Crown Farm became the venue for the local Council meetings. This continued until 1900 when the new council offices in Stanley Road were built. (from Warmley & Siston - One Hundred years of history - Part 4 of 7 - 1940 - 1959)" Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group

Hi Listers, Something to keep in mind when you've lost someone completely, the Canadian Census Records are online and they are free. That's one place you can do a quick check to see if they emigrated to Canada. Transcriptions are at http://automatedgenealogy.com/. The actual census images and passenger & immigration records are at http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html. Happy hunting. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group

Geographically in Gloucestershire but in the Registration District of Keynsham which brings it under Somerset! Pat ---- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Warn" <philwarnorp@googlemail.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:14 PM Subject: [B&D] Once Bitton, twice shy? > Friends, > > Your starter for ten! > > I have seen the parish of Bitton referred to as both Gls and Som. > > Has it moved, or rather, did the borders move? > > [ I am discounting the "Avon" (not the cosmetics) phase. ] > > Did the residents of Bitton vote to move? > > Ancestry (and I ) consider it Gls. > > What do you say? > > Thanks > > Phil > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are about 25 R Martin's shown in Bristol at http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha There is no guarantee that yours is listed, but there is no charge for the information there. If you already have credits at FindMyPast, their Living Person search might also be another, cheaper route.

Can anybody find a burial for....... THOMAS DAVIES - Butcher - died before 1784 - Bristol ( possibly P&J) Regards Adrian Ballard

Hi again, Perhaps they should have been called ANDHOW? [ Vanishing and how? ] Phil

Friends, Your starter for ten! I have seen the parish of Bitton referred to as both Gls and Som. Has it moved, or rather, did the borders move? [ I am discounting the "Avon" (not the cosmetics) phase. ] Did the residents of Bitton vote to move? Ancestry (and I ) consider it Gls. What do you say? Thanks Phil

Hi Charani Have checked neither appear. Have ordered certificates Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! - BIRT > Pat Cook wrote: > >> FreeBMD - >> 1850 Jun qtr Lambeth (4 205) - Betty Birt (no age given) >> 1840 Mar qtr Lambeth (4 405) - Joseph Birt " > > The ages will be given in the parish registers which should be > available on www.ancestry.co.uk > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Richard LOCKETT is a name which seems to get round all over the country. My earliest is Thomas LOCKETT who appears to marry Martha PRITCHARD 18th September 1801 at St Mary's Marylebone. They have a son, Thomas Ambrose LOCKETT bpt 12 Feb 1816 in St Marys. I haven't found any more children which seems strange. Thomas Ambrose then married on 19th Feb 1840 to Sarah WOOD at Leamington Priors, Warwick and they had 6 children. The first 3 born in Warwickshire and then between 1849 - 1849 they moved to Bristol where they had a further 3 children. Thomas Ambrose confused me for some time because he was sometimes referred to as Thomas and at other times as Ambrose. He moved the family to Cardiff for a few years but came back to Bristol. He was referred to as a chemist and a soda water maker. Since then the majority of the LOCKETTS remained in Bristol. There are now around 200 descendants of Thomas living in and around the Bristol area...of course, not all are now called LOCKETT! They were very prolific. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Carruthers a.k.a. Carruthers-Zurowski" <leliwite@hotmail.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] LOCKETTS and ERNLEs > > Hi Liz, et al., > > Just last night, working on my study (now 293 pages) of the ERNLE (and > many variants family), I added the marriage of Mrs Jane ERNLE to Edward > LOCKET or LOCKETT at Chalbury, Dorset in 1669. The LOCKETT family are > featured in an article in 'Notes and Queries for Somerset and Dorset', > vol. 9, 1905, pp. 63-64, entitled, "Lockett of Somerset, Dorset, Cornwall > and Devon" though alas, that article didn't run to Edward (though it > mentioned a Thomas LOCKETT of Charlton Marshall, will dated 1630, and his > widow Joan.) > > Edward LOCKETT was a gent., of Charlton [Marshall], Dorset, and possibly > son or grandson of the foregoing Thomas, but I have no idea as to whether > he and Jane had children.

Pat Cook wrote: > FreeBMD - > 1850 Jun qtr Lambeth (4 205) - Betty Birt (no age given) > 1840 Mar qtr Lambeth (4 405) - Joseph Birt " The ages will be given in the parish registers which should be available on www.ancestry.co.uk -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Pat That could well be them their daughter Elizabeth who married Joseph Tucker died before 1838 but in 1841 Joseph and Betty and Joseph Birt's Grandchildren are living in Lambeth. Looks as though I shall be purchasing a couple of certificates. Have looked at 1841 Census again and found an a Elizabeth Birt aged 50 a Schoolmistress living in Short Street Lambeth and living in the same house is an Elizabeth Tucker born 1824( right age for her granddaughter) but both are shown as born in County so I had discounted them. Thanks a lot Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Cook" <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! - BIRT Hi Tony, Could they have moved to London? My CD 'They lived in Bristol' Burials 1813 50 1837 - No likely entries. FreeBMD - 1850 Jun qtr Lambeth (4 205) - Betty Birt (no age given) 1840 Mar qtr Lambeth (4 405) - Joseph Birt " 1841 Census -High St, St Nicholas Deptford, Ldn Birt Elizabeth - 60 - Annuitant - No not born in County Pat in Grimsby, Lincs > > So my two lost ladies are Betty Birt b 1778 in Awre and Ann > Jones Birt b > 1813 in Bristol. > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> > To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:59 AM > Subject: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have a "Batt" family in my tree. They originated in Siston Common but my Elizabeth Batt b. 1820 in Warmley, Bristol married George Shellard. They lived in the St George/Moorfields area of Bristol. Not sure if this information is of any help to you. But I have a large family of Shellard/Shallard families in this area and I am always looking out to enlarge on my information. If I can be of help or if anyone can help me then great. All the best. Joan -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Derrick Parsons Sent: 17 January 2010 14:39 To: 'Derrick Parsons'; BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&D] BATT family: Siston & Bristol Dear List, I'd be interested in connecting with anyone researching the BATT family from the Bristol area. My great-grandfather was Jacob Batt and he 'emigrated' to South Wales circa 1900. He left quite a large brood of his elder children in Bristol but I've not been able to track any of these down. Any information would be gratefully received. Deri Parsons ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Phil Defintely Gloucestershire. Bernice

> I hope you will now look at your trees as I am doing and let us have your > lost women ancestors in the Bristol area (25 mile radius). It could be > that > they were in Bristol at some stage, either born, married or just passing > through so I'm sure Charani is not going to complain if your ancestor is > found elsewhere. Taking up Liz's challenge I have two lost ladies Betty Jones b 1778 in Awre married Joseph Birt in Awre 28 April 1796 they moved to Bristol in 1806 and had several children there including Ann Jones Birt in 1813( In BAFHS baptism as BOIT) they lived at 42 Castle Green (1828) and were still there in Aug 1830 after which they disappear. So my two lost ladies are Betty Birt b 1778 in Awre and Ann Jones Birt b 1813 in Bristol. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!!

Liz wrote: Immigration is very important. -------------------------------------------------------------- I second that, According to a family story one off mine,Elijah SALMON, went to America during the later part of the 19th Century but nobody knew which part. After about a year I came across a possible living in Colorado so I went on to their equivalent of [B&D] and a member there offered to check the Colorado 1880 census, the information she sent back confirmed it was my Elijah. The bonus though by chance she came across another SALMON entry on the next page, Alfred, so included his details as well. It turned out that it was Elijah's older brother who I had lost track off after 1861 I have since found out he moved to Wales during the 1860's married and then emigrated, Elijah followed soon after. Now whereas Elijah married but had no children Alfred married twice and had a total of eleven the descendants of some I have traced and all that came about by a chance find. John

Uriah ANDOW was transported for life in 1828, eventually received his Ticket of Leave in 1849 (IIRC) and was free to travel wherever he wanted except back to England. He'd married Eleanor (or Ellen) MARSH in 1822 and they had a son, George, baptised 27 March 1826. Eleanor had a dau, Emily Maud, baptised 15 June 1834. There is no sign of Uriah after he received his ToL. Ther is no sign of Eleanor (or Ellen) after 1834. There's no sign of Emily Maud after 1834. George is living with his grandfather, Richard ANDOW, in 1841 and John and Elizabeth SMITH. In 1851, George is still living with John and Elizabeth and is referred to as their nephew. That's the last known sighting of George. Now, did Uriah make his way back to England via another country, collect his family and move them to another county or country, changing his name in the process? Did he in some way contact his family and ask them to join him? Did Uriah die? Did Eleanor marry again elsewhere? FreeBMD don't have a marriage for Emily Maud between 1850 and 1900. What happened to George? Some of Uriah's extended family ended up in Bristol and the surrounding area, one of whom married into another vanishing family! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Dear List, I'd be interested in connecting with anyone researching the BATT family from the Bristol area. My great-grandfather was Jacob Batt and he 'emigrated' to South Wales circa 1900. He left quite a large brood of his elder children in Bristol but I've not been able to track any of these down. Any information would be gratefully received. Deri Parsons

From: lynnecharles7@hotmail.com To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:01:16 +0000 Hi I have been looking for Rachel Charles b.c.1780, Rachel married a William Charles in Bedminster St John's in 1808 Rachel and William had five children the last being Bpt. in St. Nicholas Bristol in 1820, Charles Charles who is my G/G/grandfather. Rachel does not appear on the 1841 census, but Charles Charles married a Rhoda Evans in Clifton 1844. What even happened to RACHEL. Rg Lynne > From: chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:30:44 +0000 > Subject: Re: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! > > I had several families who just disappeared in the latter part of the 19th > century. They were in earlier census then disappeared even though still > quite young. There was the obvious possibility that they emigrated but > without any clue they could have gone anywhere. The possibility increased as > several siblings also disappeared > > One family was Mark Flook COX who married Elizabeth PARFITT in June 1870, > but they do not appear in the 1871 census only about 9 months later. > Eventually I did a search for Elizabeth COX in the 1871 census, something I > would normally have done immediately had they been married a little longer. > There she was a Widow age 20 living with her widowed mother. A search on > FreeBMD for a death for husband Mark found it in Dec Q 1870, so she was > widowed after less than 6 months marriage. > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz > Sent: 17 January 2010 12:00 > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! > > I thought I would invite you all to my "Virtual" Tuesday morning family > history gathering! You get a free cup of tea or coffee...I'm afraid you'll > have to go and make it yourselves unless you really want to turn up on a > Tuesday:-) > > One of my favourite subjects is "have you killed off your ancestors?" and I > know when we get a new member of the group that as soon as my back is > turned, the regulars who have been coming for up to 9 years, start > discussing this with the newcomers. > > So, let's get started! > > Most of you will have some form of family history software which should > allow you to show an Ancestral Tree. Open it up and put yourselves at the > base and give yourselves 5 generations. For this exercise, I'm actually > going to start with my daughter's father at the bottom as my family will > only show one person in Bristol. If you haven't got any software yet, get > yourselves a large sheet of wallpaper lining (about a yard or meter). The > software always puts your paternal line on the left and females on the > right. Once you've done this, there are 3 important dates you need to > check - births and/or baptisms, marriages and deaths or burials of course! > This takes you back to 2xg grandparents. > > Now, what are you missing????? Deaths/burials of course. Yes, this is the > one thing we all fail to complete. > > So, there are several reasons why you haven't found the deaths/burials: > 1. The person emigrated. > 2. The female has married again having been widowed and you've missed > that. > 3. It's a very common name so you really are struggling. > 4. They died at sea. > 5. They changed their names for a variety of reasons. > > Any more suggestions? > > I hope you will not look at your trees as I am doing and let us have your > lost women ancestors in the Bristol area (25 mile radius). It could be that > > they were in Bristol at some stage, either born, married or just passing > through so I'm sure Charani is not going to complain if your ancestor is > found elsewhere. > > I'm now going to start an email with those that I am missing to see if > anyone can help me. > > Good hunting. > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.147/2628 - Release Date: 01/17/10 > 07:35:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now _________________________________________________________________ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Karen Lynn wrote: > 2010/1/17 Charani <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> > >> On a similar note: I have a lady who divorced her husband and later >> remarried under her maiden name, not her former married name. I guess >> she was thoroughly disgusted with him and didn't want to be associated >> with him in any way. She didn't have any children with him so it made >> it easier for her to right that period out of her life completely. > > > ... or he insisted that she revert to her maiden name and didn't sully his > family by continuing to use it! I know of at least one who did that. That's possible too. The uncontested divorce cited his adultery (he went off and lived with another, unnamed, woman for a week). He remarried fairly soon afterwards. The lady in question eventually remarried - a SMITH!! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Immigration is very important. I had my Joseph TALBOT emigrate from Somerset to New York. It was some years later while looking for more TALBOTs that I realised that Uncle Joseph had been very kind to his young nephews, particularly a couple whose mother had remarried in Bedminster and had another child. I imagine it must have been a difficult time for the two boys so uncle Joseph took them under his wing in the US. If you find someone in your family has emigrated and then you lose some of the extended family, then do what I did, have a look around the same area where your ancestor lived and with luck you will find them there. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Deaths and burials!!! >I had several families who just disappeared in the latter part of the 19th > century. They were in earlier census then disappeared even though still > quite young. There was the obvious possibility that they emigrated but > without any clue they could have gone anywhere. The possibility increased > as > several siblings also disappeared