Hello Rosalie, Some years ago I looked at the family of a friend and I have that marriage on her tree. We decided then that Lucy was also known as Louisa! They were married on the 8th May 1820 in Temple Church. Samuel was the son of John TYLER and an Elizabeth MEREDITH and we thought that Lucy was the daughter of Benjamin & Hannah BENNETT. Samuel & Lucy called their first child Hannah Bennett TYLER when she was christened in St George in 1822. My friend's 3 x great grandfather was George TYLER, brother of your Samuel. I'd be interested in your comments. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalie Balfour" <r_balfour@sky.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:49 PM Subject: [B&D] Tyler/Bennett marriage > > If anyone has access to the Bristol Marriage records, I'd really > appreciate > a lookup. > > I'm trying to find the marriage of my 3xgt grandparents, Samuel Tyler and > Lucy Bennet. They were both born around 1799, Samuel in Fishponds, and > Lucy > in St George. They lived in Rose Green, St George, where Samuel was a > farmer& butcher. > > Any help appreciated! > > Thanks > > Rosalie Balfour > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jacky Jackson-Cox wrote: > There is a marriage of a Samuel Tyler to a Louisa Bennett in the parish of Temple in 1820 - 159 477, 5.08.1820, TYLER SAMUEL OTP LOUISA BENNETT OTP B > > The only Lucy Bennett listed married a William Bennett on 15.09.1829 at St Paul's, so perhaps Louisa is your Lucy? Could be two different Samuels or Louisa and Lucy were sisters and he married first one then t'other. I don't think Louisa and Lucy are the same person but I do think the 1829 marriage is the one Rosalie is looking for. It fits better age wise than the earlier marriage. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Rosalie, There is a marriage of a Samuel Tyler to a Louisa Bennett in the parish of Temple in 1820 - 159 477, 5.08.1820, TYLER SAMUEL OTP LOUISA BENNETT OTP B The only Lucy Bennett listed married a William Bennett on 15.09.1829 at St Paul's, so perhaps Louisa is your Lucy? Jacky ======================================================================== Jacky Jackson-Cox Personal web page: http://www.btinternet.com/~jacky3/ Last updated 01/02/2009 --- On Tue, 26/1/10, Rosalie Balfour <r_balfour@sky.com> wrote: > From: Rosalie Balfour <r_balfour@sky.com> > Subject: [B&D] Tyler/Bennett marriage > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 21:49 > > If anyone has access to the Bristol Marriage records, I'd > really appreciate > a lookup. > > I'm trying to find the marriage of my 3xgt grandparents, > Samuel Tyler and > Lucy Bennet.  They were both born around 1799, Samuel > in Fishponds, and Lucy > in St George.  They lived in Rose Green, St George, > where Samuel was a > farmer& butcher. > > Any help appreciated! > > Thanks > > Rosalie Balfour > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

How about this one? 5.8.1820, Temple, Bristol, by banns Samuel TYLER OTP Louisa BENNETT OTP Marion On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Rosalie Balfour <r_balfour@sky.com> wrote: > > If anyone has access to the Bristol Marriage records, I'd really appreciate > a lookup. > > I'm trying to find the marriage of my 3xgt grandparents, Samuel Tyler and > Lucy Bennet.  They were both born around 1799, Samuel in Fishponds, and Lucy > in St George.  They lived in Rose Green, St George, where Samuel was a > farmer& butcher. > > Any help appreciated! > > Thanks > > Rosalie Balfour > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If anyone has access to the Bristol Marriage records, I'd really appreciate a lookup. I'm trying to find the marriage of my 3xgt grandparents, Samuel Tyler and Lucy Bennet. They were both born around 1799, Samuel in Fishponds, and Lucy in St George. They lived in Rose Green, St George, where Samuel was a farmer& butcher. Any help appreciated! Thanks Rosalie Balfour

Thanks Nancy & Liz He's been found on FreeBmd incorrectly spelt - Deaths Jun 1842 BALLA[RN]D John Clifton 11 232 need to find burial now OR his wife ELIZABETH BALLARD who was alive until June 1851,. Thanks Again Adrian Ballard

Susan Moziar wrote: > Liz, > I couldn't agree with you more! I was having trouble with my SHARP line > (William SHARP was a miller in Staines) and managed to find his death so I > ordered the Death Certificate. He had been living with his married daughter > whom I had no knowledge of. It was like the key to the vault! That one > piece of information opened up lots more information and I managed to find > all William's children - at least, I think I have. I'm hoping the purchase of a death cert for William George ROGERS is going to give me just that little bit of info that will either confirm he is mine or whether he did a runner and maybe something that will help me identify which of two options is his birth althoug I'm not hopeful on the last point! :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Ancestry are currently offering free access to their convicts database between 24 Jan and 30 Jan 2010 (GMT) They do add "conditions apply" which means signing up for a free account! I've found a startling number of names for one of my families, including two familiar names and one I've never come across before. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Sad to say, I've always been far more interested in getting Birth and Marriage Certificates even though I have always advocated looking for deaths, burials and even more importantly - Probate. However, having obtained all the Birth and Marriage Certificates for my family over the last 10 years and with nothing to spend my hard earnt cash on, apart from subscriptions, I decided the time had come to order more death certificates. So far two arrived this morning and one created a mystery for me...surely that's what it's all about! One of them showed the name of the informant was a daughter but it wasn't a name I recognised. I realised who the daughter was but I couldn't find the marriage. So, putting my brains into first gear, I realised that this daughter must have married twice. As a result, I looked for a first marriage, checked that one, found him and then found his death and using her first married name, I was able to find a second marriage. Just a small matter but it was important. As we all know, Death Certificates don't really give us very much information but even a little useful clue like this made it worth the £7 it cost. Another 4 Certificates to come later this week...will there be another mystery for me to solve? No, they are not direct descendants but it has corrected an error on my tree and one day I might even find some living cousins from this branch. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset

Liz, I couldn't agree with you more! I was having trouble with my SHARP line (William SHARP was a miller in Staines) and managed to find his death so I ordered the Death Certificate. He had been living with his married daughter whom I had no knowledge of. It was like the key to the vault! That one piece of information opened up lots more information and I managed to find all William's children - at least, I think I have. Go for it! - Susan -------------------------------------------------- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:44 AM To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Subject: [B&D] Death Certificates > Sad to say, I've always been far more interested in getting Birth and > Marriage Certificates even though I have always advocated looking for > deaths, burials and even more importantly - Probate. > > However, having obtained all the Birth and Marriage Certificates for my > family over the last 10 years and with nothing to spend my hard earnt cash > on, apart from subscriptions, I decided the time had come to order more > death certificates. > > So far two arrived this morning and one created a mystery for me...surely > that's what it's all about! One of them showed the name of the informant > was a daughter but it wasn't a name I recognised. I realised who the > daughter was but I couldn't find the marriage. So, putting my brains into > first gear, I realised that this daughter must have married twice. As a > result, I looked for a first marriage, checked that one, found him and > then > found his death and using her first married name, I was able to find a > second marriage. Just a small matter but it was important. > > As we all know, Death Certificates don't really give us very much > information but even a little useful clue like this made it worth the £7 > it > cost. Another 4 Certificates to come later this week...will there be > another mystery for me to solve? > > No, they are not direct descendants but it has corrected an error on my > tree > and one day I might even find some living cousins from this branch. > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The newspaper archive is TOTALLY addictive - I love seeing the newspaper image as well. The gold rush started here in New South Wales in 1851 so the timing is good. This is a good time line http://www.goldrush.com.au/

Many thanks for the additional information. I'll follow up on that and it might be worth following up the Charles ANDOE marriage as well. I shall have to make sure I have nothing else to do for a couple of days while I go through the newspaper archive <VBG> I've found 1131 entries for one of my family names :)) The 155 for ANDOW are much more manageable :)) I wonder if the gold rushes in Australia and California influenced what Uriah did. Robyn Horan wrote: > Pleased to help - I've had a lot of help from the group. > > There's no sign of him (or any other Ando, Andow or Andoe in > Queensland but there are a few Andows and Andoes in Victoria > > https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search > > Just put the surname in and hit enter - don't worry about any other > fields. It will come up a number of "records shown on 1 page". It cost > 99 Australian cents to view it - at the exchange rate that's very > cheap. Might be worth a try on both spellings. I've never used that > system so I'm not sure how much info is on it. > > There's also the marriage of a Charles Andoe in NSW and the birth and > death of an infant son, all occuring in 1886. Probably not worth > following up as it's much more expensive here in NSW, aound $17 each > through a transcription agent. > > Do you know about the National Library of Australia's digitised > newspapers? I did a quick search and found his pardon. > > For example. > Sydney Morning Herald, November 25, 1848 (but I think the pardon date > was 1st October) > > CONDITIONAL PARDON.-HÍS Excellency the Governor has directed it to be > notified, that Her Majesty has been pleased to authorise the issue of > Pardons to the undermentioned persons, on condition that they do not > return to the countries or colonies from which they were respectively > transported during the remainder of the term of their respective > sentences. Pardons available everywhere, save in the United Kingdom of > Great Britain and Ireland. Dated 1st October, 1848. Uriah Ando, > Claudine; > > > http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Go to Rootsweb and just type Bal*d and you will find him in June 1842 died Clifton. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Ballard" <ballardgen@hotmail.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:18 PM Subject: [B&D] Looking For Burial - BALLARD > Dear Listers, > > I am trying to find a burial place for JOHN BALLARD & ELIZABETH BALLARD > (nee > APPLEFORD) > > Last seen 1841 Census age 70 of New Street, St. Philips, Tobacco Pipe > Maker. > > Any help appreciated > > Regards > > Adrian Ballard > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ballard1/west_country_ballards/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers, I am trying to find a burial place for JOHN BALLARD & ELIZABETH BALLARD (nee APPLEFORD) Last seen 1841 Census age 70 of New Street, St. Philips, Tobacco Pipe Maker. Any help appreciated Regards Adrian Ballard http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ballard1/west_country_ballards/

Hi Adrian, While there was no death registered for John BALLARD between 1841 and 1851 on FreeBMD there was the following: Elizabeth BALLARD death registered 4th Qtr 1850 Clifton Vol 11, Pg 229. Unfortunately it doesn't give an age at death, so it would be necessary to order the certificate to find out. Did you search the 1851 census using just the first name and all the other particulars you have? Sometimes that can reveal a mistranscription of massive proportions. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Ballard" <ballardgen@hotmail.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:18 PM Subject: [B&D] Looking For Burial - BALLARD > Dear Listers, > > I am trying to find a burial place for JOHN BALLARD & ELIZABETH BALLARD > (nee > APPLEFORD) > > Last seen 1841 Census age 70 of New Street, St. Philips, Tobacco Pipe > Maker. > > Any help appreciated > > Regards > > Adrian Ballard >

Something a little different from the norm :)) I was reading through the local news and found this interesting (to me anyway) item about the invention of plasticine <http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/somerset/hi/people_and_places/arts_and_culture/newsid_8473000/8473405.stm> -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Was a father's name given if and when this child married? Sometimes the child is told who their father was. Sometimes an illegitimate child is brought up by grandparents and so gives grandfather's name as father when they marry. However, as the mother didn't register the birth in this case it does look as if it might be illegitimate. I did hear of one certificate where no father's name was given by the child's grandmother who registered the birth however she just did not get on with her son in law who had already left the family home and that was her way of disowning him! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <davidblackmore3@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:07 PM Subject: [B&D] Birth Certificate > Is it safe to assume that as the 'Name & Surname of father' and > 'Occupation of father' are struck through on a child's birth certificate > that the child was illegitimate. The mothere's sister waws present at the > birth. > > David Blackmore > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dave wrote: > Is it safe to assume that as the 'Name & Surname of father' and > 'Occupation of father' are struck through on a child's birth > certificate that the child was illegitimate. The mothere's sister > waws present at the birth. It's a reasonable assumption but how does it fit with other information you have regarding the child and his/her mother? Did the mother later marry a man of that name? Was the child known by the apparent father's name or by the mother's? Do the parents appear on any census as a couple? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Is it safe to assume that as the 'Name & Surname of father' and 'Occupation of father' are struck through on a child's birth certificate that the child was illegitimate. The mothere's sister waws present at the birth. David Blackmore

Tony Harrison wrote: > In 1841 census living in Short Street was a Elizabeth Birt ( did > the enumerator decide Betty was an Elizabeth)aged 50 and an > Elizabeth Tucker of the right age to be her granddaughter but both > born in County. It's quite possible the enumerator did consider Betty as a pet name for Elizabeth and so enumerated her but Betty was a name in its own right as well. I have a cousin whose name was Patty and she's been incorrectly "corrected" to Martha which lead me to look for an extra child that didn't exist. Patty is a pet form of Martha. > > Betty Birt b 1778 d 1850 certificate showed her to be 71 the right > age for my Betty living 11 Short Street but described as the Widow > of John Birt a Commercial Traveller the informant was not a family > member (Her daughter had died} > > Given the inconsistencies would you consider that I have found my > Joseph and Betty. I think you have your Joseph all right. I'm not so sure about Betty but given the informant was someone who apparently didn't know the couple that could account for John being given instead of Joseph. I think overall I'd cautiously accept Betty's death as being right. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton and Greinton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk