Thanks Charani. I wondered when it would be moving. I think it will be easier for me as it will be on the South side of Taunton. I have friends with a B&B within a reasonable distance and reasonably priced...they are also interested in family history! How easy will it be for those who can only attend by public transport? Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: "B+D List" <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [B&D] Somerset Record Office pre-move reminder > Just to remind prospective visitors that Somerset Record Office is now > closed on Mondays until September. > > Original documents will not be available after Easter until the new > Heritage Centre opens in September. Microfiche/film access is still > available until July. > > The record office will be completely closed from July to September. > > Telephone, email and snail mail enquiries will still be answered. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just to remind prospective visitors that Somerset Record Office is now closed on Mondays until September. Original documents will not be available after Easter until the new Heritage Centre opens in September. Microfiche/film access is still available until July. The record office will be completely closed from July to September. Telephone, email and snail mail enquiries will still be answered. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

This is like a blast from the past to be looking for MUDON again! Charles EDGELL married Eliza MUDON 16th Jan 1837 at St James Bristol. see Bristol & Avon FHS marriage index Vol 8. available on CD from www.bafhs.org.uk Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "adrianp7" <adrianp7@talktalk.net> To: <BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: [B&D] ELIZA MUDON BATISM & MARRIAGE > Eliza MUDON was the daughter of William and Hester MUDON from Chew Stoke. > I > did not know about Eliza's existence until today when she was mentioned in > her father's will of 1859 under the name of EDGELL. I suspect that she was > married to Charles EDGELL. > > William MUDON and Hester BUSSELL were married in St James'parish church > Bristol on 19 January 1803. I have so far been able to locate the baptisms > of their children Mary Ann in Temple parish church, Bristol in 1804, > Hester > and Jane in the same church in 1810, Louisa in Chew Magna in 1816, John in > CM in 1818, and Henry in CM in 1824. > > I have been unable to locate either the baptism or the marriage of Eliza. > Can anyone help, please? > > Adrian > Yorkshire >

1781 poll book has a Chaffin EDGELL, gent in Frome fr.St. Philip jim On 2-Mar-10, at 11:44 AM, adrianp7 wrote: > Eliza MUDON was the daughter of William and Hester MUDON from Chew > Stoke. I > did not know about Eliza's existence until today when she was > mentioned in > her father's will of 1859 under the name of EDGELL. I suspect that > she was > married to Charles EDGELL. > > William MUDON and Hester BUSSELL were married in St James'parish > church > Bristol on 19 January 1803. I have so far been able to locate the > baptisms > of their children Mary Ann in Temple parish church, Bristol in > 1804, Hester > and Jane in the same church in 1810, Louisa in Chew Magna in 1816, > John in > CM in 1818, and Henry in CM in 1824. > > I have been unable to locate either the baptism or the marriage of > Eliza. > Can anyone help, please? > > Adrian > Yorkshire > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: > 03/02/10 07:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Geoff wrote: > The project when completed will bring considerable benefits to us, > e.g. mother's maiden name in the birth index back to 1837 and age at > birth for the deaths also back to that date. Age at birth...?? Sorry Geoff, I couldn't resist! ;o) Jan ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:19:22 +0000 > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > From: GeoffStone@wedmore.org.uk > Subject: Re: [B&D] Post 2006 GRO Indices > > > Hi Chirani, > > Sorry for delay in response, but BTinternet playing silly beggars and > I had to resubscribe under another id. > > If I had known that you were there at WDYTYAL I would have suggested > that we met for five minutes for a chat ! > > I too spoke to the GRO representative in a similar fashion. > > The previous contractor (Seimens) and the GRO parted company when the > project was partly completed (40-50%??). My understanding is that > the images of registers have been digitised, but the preparation of > the indexes was the stumbling block. > > Genealogists must remember the way the the government (who pay the > bills) view the whole project. The reality is that it is not being > done for us, but for the GRO, the benefit to us is a by-product. The > GRO process a huge volume of certificates every year and need a > system to make the production more efficient. So all the registers > are to be digitised and a completely new index > produced. Certificates will then be fairly automatically produced > from the image rather than by photopying the registers. > > The project when completed will bring considerable benefits to us, > e.g. mother's maiden name in the birth index back to 1837 and age at > birth for the deaths also back to that date. We will also benefit > from searching a single index for each category, rather than the > quarterly indexes for most years. > > They are at the 'Pre-procurement' stage (if I have the terminology > correct). I.e. preparing for tenders to complete the project. When > these will be initiated and when the real work will recommence, is > probably some way off given the bankrupt state of the public purse. > > Regards, > > Geoff > _________________________________________________________________ Tell us your greatest, weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Eliza MUDON was the daughter of William and Hester MUDON from Chew Stoke. I did not know about Eliza's existence until today when she was mentioned in her father's will of 1859 under the name of EDGELL. I suspect that she was married to Charles EDGELL. William MUDON and Hester BUSSELL were married in St James'parish church Bristol on 19 January 1803. I have so far been able to locate the baptisms of their children Mary Ann in Temple parish church, Bristol in 1804, Hester and Jane in the same church in 1810, Louisa in Chew Magna in 1816, John in CM in 1818, and Henry in CM in 1824. I have been unable to locate either the baptism or the marriage of Eliza. Can anyone help, please? Adrian Yorkshire No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 07:34:00

Liz wrote: >I think Charani would recommend you use a Gmail account. I tend to recommend Gmail because of their anti spam filters. (If you scroll down to the very bottom of the web page once you've logged in, you can turn off Chat and Buzz unless you're into that sort of thing.) Most of the freebies have reasonably good to good anti spam filters now so Hotmail, Yahoo, Mail2World or any other provider that offers a free account arre just as viable. Not all the free accounts allow email client access though. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Geoffrey Stone wrote: > Sorry for delay in response, but BTinternet playing silly beggars and > I had to resubscribe under another id. No problems :)) > If I had known that you were there at WDYTYAL I would have suggested > that we met for five minutes for a chat ! I go up every year with my dau. It would have been nice to have a natter over a cup of coffee :)) > I too spoke to the GRO representative in a similar fashion. I think it's a good idea having them there. It does give customers (researchers) a chance to raise queries with them. They obviously find it beneficial as well as a means of finding out where people have problems/queries. 8>< > They are at the 'Pre-procurement' stage (if I have the terminology > correct). I.e. preparing for tenders to complete the project. When > these will be initiated and when the real work will recommence, is > probably some way off given the bankrupt state of the public purse. Thank you for the update :)) It'll be good when the project (previously known as the DoVE Project) does come to fruition. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Chris I used to have one of those email addresses which forwarded my messages on to me but they ceased working too. I don't put my work on Ancestry but I put it on Rootsweb WorldConnect - they automatically put it on Ancestry. If you put anything on any of the Rootsweb lists you can track what your email is and it can be changed automatically when you change your email account. You obviously do need to keep these things up to date. It's not difficult. Also, if someone has an out of date email address and they are using Rootsweb there is usually someone on a list who can help you to track them down. I think Charani would recommend you use a Gmail account. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jefferies" <chris.jefferies@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Old Email addresses (Bad news from the GRO) > The problem I found is that the majority of email addresses found on > family > history web sites are no longer in use. People change their ISP quite > regularly to get a better deal so their old email address stops being > used. > One solution is to also have a none ISP related email address which can be > used on web sites and will work whatever ISP you use. Another solution > which > a friend used was to subscribe to a company which created a dummy email > address. Any emails sent to that address was automatically forwarded to > your > current real email address. > > Another similar problem I have is that there is someone with a tree on > Ancestry with interests identical to me. The problem is that it is > probably > me! I think I uploaded a tree about 10 years ago and cannot now remember > the > user name, email address or password. The last time I subscribed to > Ancestry > I contacted Admin but they were not at all helpful. > > Chris Jefferies > Cheltenham > Glos > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Bernpeg@aol.com > Sent: 01 March 2010 7:55 PM > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com; E.Newbery@btinternet.com > Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO > > Hi Liz and Listers > I always leave my email address on postems in the hope that someone will > contact me eventually with a family connection but none so far but I live > in > > hope. I don't advertise that I possess the marriage, birth or death > certificate but I do leave a little taster sometimes such as son of > William > and > Mary Smith or whoever. I sometimes quote the county where they were born > and > facts like moved to Bristol for work in 1870, or coal miner or teacher. I > possibly don't own as many certificates as lots of our researchers as > living > in Bristol and having a very large number of Bristol ancestors, I've been > able to find the relevant marriage, baptism or death entry in the > appropriate parish register. This has taken countless hours searching > through parish > registers at Bristol, Gloucester and Somerset Record Offices over the > years. However, I have not had to pay for too many certificates and > sympathise > with those listers who are going to have to pay more for their > certificates > > in future. This will affect me to a small degree as I have still to find > deaths for some of my ancestors so I too will have to pay the new fee. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2716 - Release Date: 03/01/10 > 07:34:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Chris Jefferies wrote: > The problem I found is that the majority of email addresses found on family > history web sites are no longer in use. People change their ISP quite > regularly to get a better deal so their old email address stops being used. > One solution is to also have a none ISP related email address which can be > used on web sites and will work whatever ISP you use. Another solution which > a friend used was to subscribe to a company which created a dummy email > address. Any emails sent to that address was automatically forwarded to your > current real email address. This is why I advocate the use of non-ISP dependent address or renting your own domain name which can be forwarded, if so wished, to a current address. > Another similar problem I have is that there is someone with a tree on > Ancestry with interests identical to me. The problem is that it is probably > me! I think I uploaded a tree about 10 years ago and cannot now remember the > user name, email address or password. The last time I subscribed to Ancestry > I contacted Admin but they were not at all helpful. I recently put a small but problematic tree onto Ancestry and now, every time I do a search that involves one of the surnames I get a pop up referring me to my own tree!! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

The problem I found is that the majority of email addresses found on family history web sites are no longer in use. People change their ISP quite regularly to get a better deal so their old email address stops being used. One solution is to also have a none ISP related email address which can be used on web sites and will work whatever ISP you use. Another solution which a friend used was to subscribe to a company which created a dummy email address. Any emails sent to that address was automatically forwarded to your current real email address. Another similar problem I have is that there is someone with a tree on Ancestry with interests identical to me. The problem is that it is probably me! I think I uploaded a tree about 10 years ago and cannot now remember the user name, email address or password. The last time I subscribed to Ancestry I contacted Admin but they were not at all helpful. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bernpeg@aol.com Sent: 01 March 2010 7:55 PM To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com; E.Newbery@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO Hi Liz and Listers I always leave my email address on postems in the hope that someone will contact me eventually with a family connection but none so far but I live in hope. I don't advertise that I possess the marriage, birth or death certificate but I do leave a little taster sometimes such as son of William and Mary Smith or whoever. I sometimes quote the county where they were born and facts like moved to Bristol for work in 1870, or coal miner or teacher. I possibly don't own as many certificates as lots of our researchers as living in Bristol and having a very large number of Bristol ancestors, I've been able to find the relevant marriage, baptism or death entry in the appropriate parish register. This has taken countless hours searching through parish registers at Bristol, Gloucester and Somerset Record Offices over the years. However, I have not had to pay for too many certificates and sympathise with those listers who are going to have to pay more for their certificates in future. This will affect me to a small degree as I have still to find deaths for some of my ancestors so I too will have to pay the new fee. Bernice ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2716 - Release Date: 03/01/10 07:34:00

Geoff Stone wrote: >>My understanding is that the images of registers have been digitised, but the preparation of the indexes was the stumbling block.<< Yes the images were digitised by the GRO and sent out to India to be indexed by Seimens under contract. >>So all the registers are to be digitised and a completely new index produced. Certificates will then be fairly automatically produced from the image rather than by photopying the registers.<< The GRO produced the digitised images from the microfilms of registers which they have now been using for many years to produce the certificates, except in the odd case where the quality of the film image is too poor to be used (and some of us would query that statement too!). So the only "new" thing was the indexing, which was designed to speed up the process of identifying the correct register entry. Quite a large part of this was completed before Siemens' contract expired, and so perhaps the GRO are already making use of it, which is why we are no longer going to receive a discount for supplying the GRO reference when we order certificates? >>They are at the 'Pre-procurement' stage (if I have the terminology correct). I.e. preparing for tenders to complete the project. When these will be initiated and when the real work will recommence, is probably some way off given the bankrupt state of the public purse.<< You can read the up-to-date position here: http://www.ips.gov.uk/cps/rde/xchg/ips_live/hs.xsl/1090.htm Polly Regards, Geoff At 09:00 01/03/2010, Chirani wrote: >Whilst at the WDYTYA Live fair at the weekend, I took the opportunity >of asking representatives of the GRO when/whether/if there was any >movement on getting the post 2006 indices online yet. > >The gentleman I spoke to, Peter, said the intention was still to put >the indices online and free of charge *but* it isn't going to happen >in the forseeable future. They are a little further forward than they >were when I spoke to them last year but they are still talking. > >In all fairness, it is a big project even though these indices are >already digitised. It's also a costly exercise so they do need to >ensure they get the right people to do the job: a firm who really >understands the extent of the interest in family history and genealogy >so there isn't a repeat of the fiasco of the 1901 census. > >Not the news we all wanted to hear, especially those overseas, but >better they get it right first time. One Name Study of WEDMORE worldwide and linked interests in BRISON, DUCK, POLE, TOLSON and One Name Study of PUCKLE, SCARNELL and SCUFFHAM in the UK. http://www.wedmore.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bernice, You are right about the Book of Remembrance. It's a disgrace that Bristol [collectively] let Arnos Vale get in such a state; doesn't matter who owned/owns it. The Council dropped the ball, Peter On 3/2/10, Bernpeg@aol.com <Bernpeg@aol.com> wrote: > I believe Arnos Vale on the Bath Road at Brislington has a Book of > Remembrance that is opened every day and displays the name of people's loved > ones > on the anniversary of the actual day and month of their burial or cremation > or perhaps it's the anniversary of the death. I expect this happens in > every large cemetery throughout the country. I believe the Book of > Remembrance > entry has to be paid for by the relatives at about the time of the burial > or cremation. > It's such a shame that some graves can't be found but I understand The > Friends of Arnos Vale are doing a great job in clearing this huge burial > ground. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If you are new to the list then it really is important that you read Dave's email which I am leaving in full below in case you deleted it. You might have missed it as we still had the same subject heading. Dave is very involved with Arnos Vale....he's our expert on these matters. You will learn a lot from him and he keeps us up to date on the progress of the cemetery. We had a tour around following one of our Bunfights a few years ago and, apart from the fact that it was a lousy day (raining) it was extremely interesting and I'd certainly recommend it to anyone who is visiting Bristol. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Napier" <dave.napier@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO Hi Thanks for the 'plugs' Liz & Bernice! ... I would like to add some notes about Arnos Vale:- The 'books or remembrance' at Arnos Vale Cemetery are linked to the crematorium which opened on the site in 1928. That crematorium, finally lost its licence in 1998. During 70 years, around 123,000 cremations took place and, upon requested (and payment!), an entry could be inscribed in the book of remembrance. The 'old' book is closed but each day the appropriate page is now on view to those who wish to call in at the West Lodge of the Cemetery on the Bath Road. There is also a new book of remembrance alongside it, available for new entries. Although the crematorium ceased operation in 1998, there continue to be frequent scatterings of ashes in the gardens of remembrance or interments of ashes. The cemetery was saved from having part of it 'developed' as a housing estate by local campaigners. This successful campaign was supported by the local paper (Bristol Evening Post) and the Bristol Council who now own the site. Burials at Arnos Vale Cemetery started in 1839 and there have been about 170,000 of them since then - very few now - although some do still take place in existing graves. As indicated, below, the Arnos Vale Cemetery Trust, which manages the cemetery, charges for searches of the records - this fee is likely to increase soon. It is true that the 'Friends of Arnos Vale Cemetery' and the Trust have work very hard to ensure the preservation and restoration of the cemetery - made possible by a lottery grant of £4.8m - now spent!! - the place is well worth visit if you are passing by. More money is needed to keep the cemetery going so please be sympathetic towards such things as the charges for searches and the gift shop on the site run by volunteers which hopes to make a profit to support the cemetery. The cemetery extends over about 45 acres. There are other large cemeteries in Bristol - the largest of the older ones are Greenbank, Avonview and Canford but the earliest of these, Greenbank, didn't open until 1871. So if you have ancestors who may have been buried in Bristol between 1839 (more specifically from 1854 when most of the inner city churchyards closed) and 1871 then there is a strong possibility that they would have been buried at Arnos Vale Cemetery. I estimate that approximately 50% (i.e. about 85,000) of the burials at the cemetery occurred in the period 1850 - 1880. Regards Dave Napier Friends of Arnos Vale Cemetery Webmaster www.arnsovalefriends.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO Hi Bernice The Book of Remembrance is a new project at Arnos Vale and you pay to put a relation in it. To obtain details of family graves you pay £23. For those on the list who haven't heard of Arnos Vale, it is the largest cemetery in the area. As most of us know, this was privately owned and the owners were trying to build on the site!! Oh yes. Anyway after a long struggle and a lot of wonderful people fighting for it, the Cemetery was eventually made into a Trust - check the sites http://www.arnosvalefriends.org.uk/ and http://www.arnosvale.org.uk/ Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bernpeg@aol.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com>; <E.Newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO >I believe Arnos Vale on the Bath Road at Brislington has a Book of > Remembrance that is opened every day and displays the name of people's > loved ones > on the anniversary of the actual day and month of their burial or > cremation > or perhaps it's the anniversary of the death. I expect this happens in > every large cemetery throughout the country. I believe the Book of > Remembrance > entry has to be paid for by the relatives at about the time of the burial > or cremation. > It's such a shame that some graves can't be found but I understand The > Friends of Arnos Vale are doing a great job in clearing this huge burial > ground. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chirani, Sorry for delay in response, but BTinternet playing silly beggars and I had to resubscribe under another id. If I had known that you were there at WDYTYAL I would have suggested that we met for five minutes for a chat ! I too spoke to the GRO representative in a similar fashion. The previous contractor (Seimens) and the GRO parted company when the project was partly completed (40-50%??). My understanding is that the images of registers have been digitised, but the preparation of the indexes was the stumbling block. Genealogists must remember the way the the government (who pay the bills) view the whole project. The reality is that it is not being done for us, but for the GRO, the benefit to us is a by-product. The GRO process a huge volume of certificates every year and need a system to make the production more efficient. So all the registers are to be digitised and a completely new index produced. Certificates will then be fairly automatically produced from the image rather than by photopying the registers. The project when completed will bring considerable benefits to us, e.g. mother's maiden name in the birth index back to 1837 and age at birth for the deaths also back to that date. We will also benefit from searching a single index for each category, rather than the quarterly indexes for most years. They are at the 'Pre-procurement' stage (if I have the terminology correct). I.e. preparing for tenders to complete the project. When these will be initiated and when the real work will recommence, is probably some way off given the bankrupt state of the public purse. Regards, Geoff At 09:00 01/03/2010, Chirani wrote: >Whilst at the WDYTYA Live fair at the weekend, I took the opportunity >of asking representatives of the GRO when/whether/if there was any >movement on getting the post 2006 indices online yet. > >The gentleman I spoke to, Peter, said the intention was still to put >the indices online and free of charge *but* it isn't going to happen >in the forseeable future. They are a little further forward than they >were when I spoke to them last year but they are still talking. > >In all fairness, it is a big project even though these indices are >already digitised. It's also a costly exercise so they do need to >ensure they get the right people to do the job: a firm who really >understands the extent of the interest in family history and genealogy >so there isn't a repeat of the fiasco of the 1901 census. > >Not the news we all wanted to hear, especially those overseas, but >better they get it right first time. One Name Study of WEDMORE worldwide and linked interests in BRISON, DUCK, POLE, TOLSON and One Name Study of PUCKLE, SCARNELL and SCUFFHAM in the UK. http://www.wedmore.org.uk

Hi Thanks for the 'plugs' Liz & Bernice! ... I would like to add some notes about Arnos Vale:- The 'books or remembrance' at Arnos Vale Cemetery are linked to the crematorium which opened on the site in 1928. That crematorium, finally lost its licence in 1998. During 70 years, around 123,000 cremations took place and, upon requested (and payment!), an entry could be inscribed in the book of remembrance. The 'old' book is closed but each day the appropriate page is now on view to those who wish to call in at the West Lodge of the Cemetery on the Bath Road. There is also a new book of remembrance alongside it, available for new entries. Although the crematorium ceased operation in 1998, there continue to be frequent scatterings of ashes in the gardens of remembrance or interments of ashes. The cemetery was saved from having part of it 'developed' as a housing estate by local campaigners. This successful campaign was supported by the local paper (Bristol Evening Post) and the Bristol Council who now own the site. Burials at Arnos Vale Cemetery started in 1839 and there have been about 170,000 of them since then - very few now - although some do still take place in existing graves. As indicated, below, the Arnos Vale Cemetery Trust, which manages the cemetery, charges for searches of the records - this fee is likely to increase soon. It is true that the 'Friends of Arnos Vale Cemetery' and the Trust have work very hard to ensure the preservation and restoration of the cemetery - made possible by a lottery grant of £4.8m - now spent!! - the place is well worth visit if you are passing by. More money is needed to keep the cemetery going so please be sympathetic towards such things as the charges for searches and the gift shop on the site run by volunteers which hopes to make a profit to support the cemetery. The cemetery extends over about 45 acres. There are other large cemeteries in Bristol - the largest of the older ones are Greenbank, Avonview and Canford but the earliest of these, Greenbank, didn't open until 1871. So if you have ancestors who may have been buried in Bristol between 1839 (more specifically from 1854 when most of the inner city churchyards closed) and 1871 then there is a strong possibility that they would have been buried at Arnos Vale Cemetery. I estimate that approximately 50% (i.e. about 85,000) of the burials at the cemetery occurred in the period 1850 - 1880. Regards Dave Napier Friends of Arnos Vale Cemetery Webmaster www.arnsovalefriends.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO Hi Bernice The Book of Remembrance is a new project at Arnos Vale and you pay to put a relation in it. To obtain details of family graves you pay £23. For those on the list who haven't heard of Arnos Vale, it is the largest cemetery in the area. As most of us know, this was privately owned and the owners were trying to build on the site!! Oh yes. Anyway after a long struggle and a lot of wonderful people fighting for it, the Cemetery was eventually made into a Trust - check the sites http://www.arnosvalefriends.org.uk/ and http://www.arnosvale.org.uk/ Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bernpeg@aol.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com>; <E.Newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO >I believe Arnos Vale on the Bath Road at Brislington has a Book of > Remembrance that is opened every day and displays the name of people's > loved ones > on the anniversary of the actual day and month of their burial or > cremation > or perhaps it's the anniversary of the death. I expect this happens in > every large cemetery throughout the country. I believe the Book of > Remembrance > entry has to be paid for by the relatives at about the time of the burial > or cremation. > It's such a shame that some graves can't be found but I understand The > Friends of Arnos Vale are doing a great job in clearing this huge burial > ground. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bernice The Book of Remembrance is a new project at Arnos Vale and you pay to put a relation in it. To obtain details of family graves you pay £23. For those on the list who haven't heard of Arnos Vale, it is the largest cemetery in the area. As most of us know, this was privately owned and the owners were trying to build on the site!! Oh yes. Anyway after a long struggle and a lot of wonderful people fighting for it, the Cemetery was eventually made into a Trust - check the sites http://www.arnosvalefriends.org.uk/ and http://www.arnosvale.org.uk/ Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bernpeg@aol.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com>; <E.Newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO >I believe Arnos Vale on the Bath Road at Brislington has a Book of > Remembrance that is opened every day and displays the name of people's > loved ones > on the anniversary of the actual day and month of their burial or > cremation > or perhaps it's the anniversary of the death. I expect this happens in > every large cemetery throughout the country. I believe the Book of > Remembrance > entry has to be paid for by the relatives at about the time of the burial > or cremation. > It's such a shame that some graves can't be found but I understand The > Friends of Arnos Vale are doing a great job in clearing this huge burial > ground. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bernice I had no early family actually in Bristol - they came in from Warwickshire, Cardiff, Somerset, Devon - after Civil Registration began. As you say, burial is a different story. I know my great aunt was buried in Arnos Vale in 1972 in the same grave as her parents but I couldn't find it when I looked even though I know there was a Memorial stone. It was damaged and had to be repaired but everywhere is still overgrown. Once we get to the 20th century many were cremated and there's little change of finding them unless I look through the cremation books. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bernpeg@aol.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com>; <E.Newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO > Hi Liz > I agree that the death certificates can be so interesting but finding out > where the people are buried is so difficult in a large city like Bristol. > Not so bad with my ancestors who lived in the country parishes on the edge > of > Bristol but for inner city dwellers they are extremely hard to find unless > you have the money to pay for searches by Bristol City Council who run > the > large municipal cemeteries. Thank goodness for the death indexes on the > Bristol & Avon Family History website and the various burial indexes on > CD > issued by the same society. They are a great help. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:44:43 +0000 Charani <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> wrote: Hello Charani, > Any info that is found to be duff, can be corrected by adding another > Postem. There doesn't have to be only one Postem per entry. True, but I was thinking of the situation Liz suggest; Just add your email address, and wait for the queries to come in. > And sometimes "duff" info maybe the result of a genuine error. As Indeed it can. > happened with my William George ROGERS jnr :)) I thought I had the > right one, didn't, so added a correction when the muddle was sorted Something similar has just happened to me; I had a woman assigned to two parents, but recent info proved that the child of those two died young. It turned out that there was another person of the same name baptised in the same place about a year or so earlier. The parents? One was brother to the to chap I _thought_ was the father. Thankfully, I hadn't bought certs for any of the people involved. Mainly because the events all occurred before civil registration began. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent"

Hi Bernice...I'm finding the death certificates are often the most interesting - accidentally shot, cirrhosis of the liver in a 35 year old woman, most seem to have had bronchitis. "Old age" when the person was only 67...that scared me as I'm older than that! Down here in Cornwall one of the vicars was very helpful and actually stated why his parishioners had died. I must order some more. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bernpeg@aol.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com>; <E.Newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Bad news from the GRO > Hi Liz and Listers > I always leave my email address on postems in the hope that someone will > contact me eventually with a family connection but none so far but I live > in > hope. I don't advertise that I possess the marriage, birth or death > certificate but I do leave a little taster sometimes such as son of > William and > Mary Smith or whoever. I sometimes quote the county where they were born > and > facts like moved to Bristol for work in 1870, or coal miner or teacher. I > possibly don't own as many certificates as lots of our researchers as > living > in Bristol and having a very large number of Bristol ancestors, I've been > able to find the relevant marriage, baptism or death entry in the > appropriate parish register. This has taken countless hours searching > through parish > registers at Bristol, Gloucester and Somerset Record Offices over the > years. However, I have not had to pay for too many certificates and > sympathise > with those listers who are going to have to pay more for their > certificates > in future. This will affect me to a small degree as I have still to find > deaths for some of my ancestors so I too will have to pay the new fee. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >