Ian Sage wrote: > Many thanks for looking at the SAGEs, Charani. Your message reminded me that > I have Bernard Welchman's CD which includes the Hearth Tax returns, the > Hearth Tax exemption certificates, and Stoate's completion of the exemptions > and index. (Dwelly never completed this work.) Sorry - my interpretation of > the small print is that I should not offer look-ups from this, but it is > very reasonably priced for those interested in the period. I have the books, not Bernard's CDs :)) I do have a number of his CDs though, which are currently buried due to work being done on the house at the moment. I'll have to see if I can find book versions of Stoate's work and the exemption certs. Bernard's CDs are very reasonable and an excellent resource (Invoice is in the email - again! <VBG>) Look ups from CDs are the bane of the producers lives. They aren't allowed, as you say, but it still happens. It applies to the majority of websites as well. > And yes, there are SAGEs in the 'exemption' sections! We obviously were no > better off in those days, than I feel now. Mine's the same :)) There's something mildly comforting in that, I think. We may not have become any better off, but we're not worse off - even if it does feel like it sometimes! <G> > Very glad to hear your daughter is OK after her misadventure. Thanks, so are we :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Many thanks for looking at the SAGEs, Charani. Your message reminded me that I have Bernard Welchman's CD which includes the Hearth Tax returns, the Hearth Tax exemption certificates, and Stoate's completion of the exemptions and index. (Dwelly never completed this work.) Sorry - my interpretation of the small print is that I should not offer look-ups from this, but it is very reasonably priced for those interested in the period. And yes, there are SAGEs in the 'exemption' sections! We obviously were no better off in those days, than I feel now. Very glad to hear your daughter is OK after her misadventure. Best wishes, Ian -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 10 March 2010 15:43 To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&D] Dwelly's Hearth Tax 1664-65 & Lay Subsidy Rolls 1626-1674 Ian Sage wrote: > I think all our families go back to that era, Charani! ;-)) You know what I mean!! LOL I have one line back to 1693 in Somerset and another to 1635 not in Somerset. > I certainly cannot trace mine to then, though. I'm not sure many people can but I'm willing to look to see. There aren't any SAGEs the Hearth Tax volume. I'll have a look in the other one later. I've just come back from our local MIU with my dau who might have a fractured wrist as a result of walking into a lamp post(!) and am waiting on my son coming in from college so I can get her to the nearest A+E for an Xray. If it's anything like last Wednesday when my son fell downstairs and dislocated his shoulder, I won't get back until about midnight! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just spotted a STRODE in the Glastonbury St John BTs - is he one of yours, Liz? Entry 168, bur 12 Jan 1853, John STRODE, Edgarley, 58 Yvonne Scrivener Canberra ACT Australia -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Many thanks Charani. That William STRODE is certainly mine.

Hi Charani, Are you tired of doing these yet? If not, can you please check for Nesbitt or Hewson? Cheers Robyn

Hi Charani, Thanks for looking...I will file those Brodribbs away as they are very likely connected to mine. I would be interested to know where the BALCHs in your book were living as I haven't been able to find any other than Mary BALCH in the parish register there, so they likely came from elsewhere, >From Jenny http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm >> Mr BALCH of Stanton Drew > > See above re: Stanton Drew. There are BALCHes listed for elsewhere if > you're interested. > > -- > Charani (UK)

Thank you Charani. Will have to check them. I am curious to know - what is the maximum number of hearths anyone had? The Hearth Tax ceased in 1689. It seems the Window Tax started in 1696 so how did they get money from the population between 1689 and 1696? I suppose these taxes were like our Council Tax! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> Subject: Re: [B&D] Dwelly's Hearth Tax 1664-65 CLOTHIERs

Adrian Ballard wrote: > I think there should be some BALLARD'S in there somewhere could you keep a > look out for me There are none listed, sorry :(( -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Liz wrote: > Many thanks Charani. That William STRODE is certainly mine. Shame about > the BROWNEs - there might have been some in Street but I don't know that > early. Street is in the index, so the BROWNEs would seem to have arrived later. > You should have guessed that I would be interested in the CLOTHIERs! Many > thanks. <G> Xpian CLOTHIER [~ over "p"] vid, of Alford, 2 hearths Ex [~ over "x"] ffran CLOTHIER of West Bradley, 3 hearths, Returned one too many by mistake [Charge is for two hearths] Hen CLOTHEIR [sic] of Alford, 3 hearths Returned one too many by mistake [Charge is for two hearths] Sam CLOTHIER of Alford, 3 hearths Ex [~ over "x"] Dorothy CLOTHYER of West Bradley, 1 hearth [This entry was in the section at the end headed "Fragments", hence no additional information] > > Fingers crossed that you have no more family mis-haps this week! I could do without them that's for sure! :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

rbccstrr@aol.co.uk wrote: > Any Perrys [if not too many to list]? Surprisingly few :)) Edw of Baltonsborow 1 hearth, Ex [~ over "x"] Henry of Ilton, John Dorchester 2 hearths, now Henry PERRY and one is fallen downe [sic] [Charge is for one] Tho of Edgerleigh 1 hearth, Ex Tho of Ilmister [sic], 2 hearths, Ex Symon PERRYE of Curry Malett 2 hearths Ex -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

adrianp7 wrote: > Were there any MUDONs (various spellings including MEWDEN) appearing in > Carhampton, Luccombe or Timberscombe, please? There are no MUDONs (or various alternatives), sorry. Luccombe and Timberscombe aren't in the index which probably means there are no extant returns for either place. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

IAN LOGAN wrote: > Charani > > When you have time investigation of following would be helpful. Rather a lot > so please ration if appropriate. > > 1. My maternal TARR line goes back reliably to George TARR bap 1711 Exford - > he married Elizabeth HUXTABLE in 1729 in Exford. Any TARRS in Exford or > surrounding parishes in the mid 1600 listings you have ? Sorry, not TARRs or HUXTABLEs. Exford isn't included in the index so there are probably no extant returns. > 2. I have COLES ancestry and line has been traced back fairly reliably to > Jonas COLES bap 1641 in Cannington ( m Joane DAY in 1669 in Cannington) and > less reliably to Jonas' father Edward COLES ( m Margarett Tillerie 1640 > Cannington) and Edward's father Jonas COLES (m Jone MEMBREY 1602 > Cannington). I would be very interested in any COLES included in your lists > in Cannington or nearby parishes. Edw COLES of Rodway, 1 hearth, Ex [~ over "x"] Edw COLES of Cannington, 2 hearths, Ex Gyles COLES of Goatehurst, 3 hearths, Ex Hen COLES of Rodway, 2 hearths, Ex now Jonas Coles John COLES of Lidiard Pemcherton, 2 hearths, now Rich Wood Tenant poore noe distrs [sic] Edward Sewan of Ashpryors owner [No charge made] I'll come back to you on the POOLEs as there are quite a few. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi: Thanks so much for the information. It confirms that the marriage was in Siston parish. Now I have to order the microfilms for the Siston parish registers from my local family history centre. Regards, Carol Collins __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

Carol Collins wrote: > I'm looking for a marriage between Daniel Buckle and Mary England > on Oct 7, 1798. Both were from Siston parish. I'm not sure whether > they would have got married in Siston parish or in Bristol. The > only information that I have is a patron submission on the IGI. Any > help would be greatly appreciated. According to the BAFHS 1754-1812 Marriage CD Daniel BUCKELL (note spelling) married Mary ENGLAND on 7 Oct 1798 after banns in Siston. They were both described as being "of this parish". -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Charani I think there should be some BALLARD'S in there somewhere could you keep a look out for me Best Wishes Adrian Ballard

Thanks for taking the time to look Charani, I appreciate it. andy On 11/03/2010 16:08, Charani wrote: > andy chippett wrote: > >> Hi Charani, >> Sorry to be yet another seeking your help but I wonder if there are any >> Chippett's listed, either in Evercreech or Henstridge? Please. >> > No apologies needed :)) > > There are no CHIPPETTs listed but neither Evercreech or Henstridge are > in the index which probably means the returns aren't extant. > >

Many thanks Charani. That William STRODE is certainly mine. Shame about the BROWNEs - there might have been some in Street but I don't know that early. You should have guessed that I would be interested in the CLOTHIERs! Many thanks. Fingers crossed that you have no more family mis-haps this week! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> > Wm STRODE, Esq in West Bradley, 1 hearth, The house is voyd [sic] Mr > Wm Strode of Street owner > > Wm STRODE of Bere-Crocombe, 1 hearth, Ex now John COLLIER [no ~ over "x"] > There are quite a few BROWNEs but no BROWNS. However,neither Shepton > Mallet nor Bowlish are included in the index which probably means the > returns aren't extant. > > There are some CLOTHIERs and a CLOTHYER if you're interested.

Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Charani, > Sorry about your daughter & I hope you didn't have to wait long at the > hospital. It wasn't as bad as it can be, thanks :)) > I have several lines going back that far, > John & Anne BRODRIBB/BROADRIBB/BRODRIPP etc in the Shepton Mallet area, Shepton Mallet doesn't appear in the index which probably means the returns aren't extant, however, there are a couple of BROADRIPPs. Ralph BROADRIPP of West Pennard, 3 hearths, Ex [~ over "x"] Wm BROADRIPP of Congresbury Weeke & Buxton, 1 hearth not worth 20s p annu [~ over "u"] No charge made. > Robert & Elizabeth PURNELL at High Littleton/Clutton The only PURNELL listed is a Robert of North Wootton who had two hearths Ex [~ over "x"] Neither High Littleton nor Clutton appear in the index which probably means the returns aren't extant. > William & Mary LYDE of Stanton Drew Stanton Drew doesn't appear in the index. There are no LYDEs listed for elsewhere either, sorry. > Cornelius SAGE of Clutton or Stanton Drew Sorry, there are no SAGEs listed. See above re: Stanton Drew > Mr BALCH of Stanton Drew See above re: Stanton Drew. There are BALCHes listed for elsewhere if you're interested. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hello Charani Were there any MUDONs (various spellings including MEWDEN) appearing in Carhampton, Luccombe or Timberscombe, please? Adrian Yorkshire No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2736 - Release Date: 03/11/10 07:33:00

andy chippett wrote: > Hi Charani, > Sorry to be yet another seeking your help but I wonder if there are any > Chippett's listed, either in Evercreech or Henstridge? Please. No apologies needed :)) There are no CHIPPETTs listed but neither Evercreech or Henstridge are in the index which probably means the returns aren't extant. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Liz wrote: > Hi Charani > > It sounds as though you've got your hands full with your family at the > moment. Ouch, sorry to hear your daughter walked into a lamp post...was it > dark:-) No, it wasn't <G> I think it was more a case of her not being awake. She was the third member of the family to come a purler in the last three weeks. > My de STRODEs should be on your CDs. I have them back to 1150...no, not to > Adam and Eve but I have got so much info on them. A nice little collection of STRODEs; nothing under de STRODE Geo STRODE of Closworth, 1 hearth, Ex (with ~ over the "x") Jo STRODE of Fyfehead, 2 hearths, Ex Joane STRODE vid of Isle Abbotts, 1 hearth, Ex Mary STRODE vid of Fyfehead, 2 hearths, Returned one too many by mistake [Charge is for one hearth] Tho STRODE of Maperton, 6 hearths, One increased by new building [Charge is for 7 hearths and there's "1gr" before the charge] Wm STRODE, Esq in West Bradley, 1 hearth, The house is voyd [sic] Mr Wm Strode of Street owner Wm STRODE of Bere-Crocombe, 1 hearth, Ex now John COLLIER [no ~ over "x"] > How about the BROWN(E)s of Bowlish or Shepton Mallet. I know they are > slightly outside our area but you did mention Somerset! Of course, this lot > all had homes in London and/or Bristol as well so from that point of view, I > am in the area! There are quite a few BROWNEs but no BROWNS. However,neither Shepton Mallet nor Bowlish are included in the index which probably means the returns aren't extant. There are some CLOTHIERs and a CLOTHYER if you're interested. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk