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Cathy, I was scouring the wills for any CLARK(E) in 1700s so anything like this got written down!!! Could be mine, hopefully one day I'll find out for sure! For me it was interesting too as I have a JEFFERIES connection in my tree too. Amanda Kerby NZ

This is a quick dip in the pond with a fishing rod! Has anyone got FISCHER ancestry in the 1700s? I don't have a specific person, just scrawled notes on a roughly drawn family tree mentioning that the next generation back was a FISCHER. Since Ive been stuck on this generation for years, I started to wonder if it might be worth a stab further back. I did find some FISSCHERs in the Bristol Calendar of Wills in 1400s so they were about, but haven't quite got that far back yet!!!!! LOL It looks to be a German variant, does anyone know if this perhaps was the accepted spelling much earlier? Amanda Kerby Christhcurch

Hi Amanda: This is probably not relevant to your quest but I have 5 generations of Fishers (sometimes written Fysher) Many of my ancestors hailed from the Bristol area but the only birthplace designation I have for the Fishers is "England" Emlyne Fisher c1666 m. John Eastmond of West Antsey, Devon Emlyne's father was John Fisher c1639 m. Emlin Edward Fisher c1620 Edward Fysher c1596 John Fysher c1575 The above summary is all I know. It is a forlorn hope but if you see a connection please let me know. Thank you. Good hunting Alan (Toronto) ----- Original Message ---- From: Amanda Kerby <amanda.kerby@inet.net.nz> To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 4:22:29 AM Subject: [B&D] FISCHER or FISHER in 1700s This is a quick dip in the pond with a fishing rod! Has anyone got FISCHER ancestry in the 1700s? I don't have a specific person, just scrawled notes on a roughly drawn family tree mentioning that the next generation back was a FISCHER. Since Ive been stuck on this generation for years, I started to wonder if it might be worth a stab further back. I did find some FISSCHERs in the Bristol Calendar of Wills in 1400s so they were about, but haven't quite got that far back yet!!!!! LOL It looks to be a German variant, does anyone know if this perhaps was the accepted spelling much earlier? Amanda Kerby Christhcurch ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re Privateering - Wikipedia has a useful article on this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_of_marque Adrian B

Hello, A couple of weeks ago while looking in the graveyard at St. Michael's, Charleston, SC noticed two graves: Capt James Maud Elford native of Bristol d. 1826 Charleston (c1772-1826) & Margaret Charlotte Elford, wife d. 1817 (c1774-1817). Have photos of graves if anyone is interested. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

Amanda, I hope he is yours!!! Wouldn't it be great, what a find. Fingers crossed for you, Cathy

Hi Amanda, "proze" I think should be "prize", his share of any captured goods. Perhaps he was involved in catching smugglers? It does sound like he led an interesting life! >From Jenny http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kerby" <amanda.kerby@inet.net.nz> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: [B&D] VIESEY - Interesting will >A little while ago I transcribed this will which conjures up interesting > images of the time and the man! Cloaks, swords and pistols..he sounds like > a > highwayman not a mariner! > > > > 1763 Thomas VIESEY Junior > > In the name of God Amen I Thomas VOISEY junior of the city of Bristol > mariner.being in bodily health and of sound and fit mind and memory and > considering all the perils and dangers of y seas and other uncertainties > of > this transitory life (do for avoiding controversies after my decease) make > publish and declare this my last will and testament.all my worldly estate > to > my beloved sister Elizabeth CLARK..I give and bequeath all my "proze" > money > that is or shall be owed by me and to me, likewise all my cloaks, watch, > swords, pistols or whatsoever..is belonging to me and also my __?__ that > was > left to me by my late brother in law Captain John CLARK. All wages sums > of > money, lands, tenements, goods and chattels and estate whatsoever as shall > be anyways due owing or belonging to me at the time of my decease I do > give > to the same Elizabeth CLARK sole executrix. Written 15 August 1758 in the > 30th year of the reign of his Maj King George 2nd. > > Presence of William JEFFRIES & Jos BRAGGS

A little while ago I transcribed this will which conjures up interesting images of the time and the man! Cloaks, swords and pistols..he sounds like a highwayman not a mariner! 1763 Thomas VIESEY Junior In the name of God Amen I Thomas VOISEY junior of the city of Bristol mariner.being in bodily health and of sound and fit mind and memory and considering all the perils and dangers of y seas and other uncertainties of this transitory life (do for avoiding controversies after my decease) make publish and declare this my last will and testament.all my worldly estate to my beloved sister Elizabeth CLARK..I give and bequeath all my "proze" money that is or shall be owed by me and to me, likewise all my cloaks, watch, swords, pistols or whatsoever..is belonging to me and also my __?__ that was left to me by my late brother in law Captain John CLARK. All wages sums of money, lands, tenements, goods and chattels and estate whatsoever as shall be anyways due owing or belonging to me at the time of my decease I do give to the same Elizabeth CLARK sole executrix. Written 15 August 1758 in the 30th year of the reign of his Maj King George 2nd. Presence of William JEFFRIES & Jos BRAGGS Amanda Kerby NZ

Hi Amanda, I would conjecture from the contents of his Will that Thomas VOISEY was a "Privateer" which was a legal profession at the time his Will was written. He is bequeathing "all my prize money" (not proze money) which is the payment a Privateer would be entitled to. It was his share of the profits of intercepting ships of foreign nations at war with England, and selling the goods and often the ship. If he was in my family, I'd consider him a very interesting man, with an occupation which is often equated with that of a Pirate, but Privateering was legal. He was probably at sea more often than at home, hence his description of a "transitory life". Had he lived long enough, he would have been involved in the American Revolution in 1776 capturing the US ships for which the English Privateers were amply rewarded by George II. But I assume he died in 1763. I wonder if he died a rich man and Elizabeth CLARK and her husband became wealthy? Finding the inventory that went with his Probate would be my first objective. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kerby" <amanda.kerby@inet.net.nz> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:45 AM Subject: [B&D] VIESEY - Interesting will >A little while ago I transcribed this will which conjures up interesting > images of the time and the man! Cloaks, swords and pistols..he sounds like > a > highwayman not a mariner! > > > > 1763 Thomas VIESEY Junior > > In the name of God Amen I Thomas VOISEY junior of the city of Bristol > mariner.being in bodily health and of sound and fit mind and memory and > considering all the perils and dangers of y seas and other uncertainties > of > this transitory life (do for avoiding controversies after my decease) make > publish and declare this my last will and testament.all my worldly estate > to > my beloved sister Elizabeth CLARK..I give and bequeath all my "proze" > money > that is or shall be owed by me and to me, likewise all my cloaks, watch, > swords, pistols or whatsoever is belonging to me and also my __?__ that > was > left to me by my late brother in law Captain John CLARK. All wages sums > of > money, lands, tenements, goods and chattels and estate whatsoever as shall > be anyways due owing or belonging to me at the time of my decease I do > give > to the same Elizabeth CLARK sole executrix. Written 15 August 1758 in the > 30th year of the reign of his Maj King George 2nd. > > Presence of William JEFFRIES & Jos BRAGGS > > > > Amanda Kerby > > NZ >

Thank you for sharing this will with us Amanda, it conjured up all sorts of pictures in my mind, but more than that the will is very interesting. Is this a relation of yours? Cathy

Hi Ian Delighted to have you join us. Yes, October might be a long way away but I will, hopefully, be very busy twix now and then as I need to earn some mega bucks for my trip to Australia. Which reminds me...if any of you are in Cornwall over the summer, you are welcome to call in. We hold a family history morning every Tuesday from 11am. It costs you nothing and you even get a cup of tea or coffee. Just let me know in advance - I do have a business to run so need to be organised. We have access to so much stuff here and we are always happy to share. Ancestry, Findmypast, National Burial Index Version 3, 2003 Electoral Register, Somerset & Dorset FHS magazines ie The Greenwood Tree, Cornwall Family History Society magazines, Cumberland FHS magazines, various other magazines, numerous CDs...enough to keep you occupied for hours. Just please don't ask me for look ups as life is hectic enough. Sorry about that. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Sage" <sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] 2010 Bunfight > Liz proposed: >>While trying to find another interesting location for a bunfight, >>I decided to try the Salt House at Clevedon. >>As I'm hoping to go to Australia in October, the weekend that best >>suits me for a Bunfight is 2nd October. > > May I join the list, please? October seems a long way off yet, but no > doubt > the summer will fly past. > > Ian > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Liz proposed: >While trying to find another interesting location for a bunfight, >I decided to try the Salt House at Clevedon. >As I'm hoping to go to Australia in October, the weekend that best >suits me for a Bunfight is 2nd October. May I join the list, please? October seems a long way off yet, but no doubt the summer will fly past. Ian

Hi Peter That is great. I am sure planes will be flying by October...I will be flying to Australia a couple of days later so I too hope the present problems will be over and done with. Don't worry about missing me when I was in the US. My trip was so very hectic. Which reminds me - I will bring the Medal and other memorabilia that I brought back from the National Women's Hall of Fame and tell everyone about it if they are interested. Of course, there are many other women whose families have settled in the US and who deserve the accolade I obtained for my ancestor, Rebecca Talbot Perkins. For those of you who don't know about Rebecca, her father (Joseph TALBOT) emigrated from Somerset in 1855, he died in 1890 from an attack of influenza which developed into pneumonia. Rebecca was his eldest daughter and she took over running his real estate business and became one of the first women to be Licenced to run a Real Estate Agency. She met the Pankhursts when they visited the US, she was a suffragette, she supported women's rights, she was what they call a "Club Woman", i.e. she did a lot of charitable work and was president of several women's hospitals and refuges. In 1921 she was asked to find a home for an "out of wedlock" child. As a result she started an adoption agency before adoption became a legal requirement. The adoption agency was non-religious, non-sectarian but every family had to go through strict interviews to ensure the child they were having would be happy and well cared for. Eventually the agency closed down in 2002 but not before they handed over some of their archives to me. Rebecca married Agar Luglow PERKINS who had been recommended to come from Canada to work for her in 1895 and she died childless in 1956. She had two sisters and only one niece who she put through law school, she was Reba Talbot SWAIN - the first female Deputy Attorney General for NY State - she sadly died in 1930 from cancer and so the line died out. There are only 260 women inducted into the NWHF so I feel highly honoured that Rebecca's name will live on. It was through one of the Rootsweb sites that I heard about the NWHF and decided to put Rebecca forward but I certainly didn't expect it would leave to an extensive journey and such a welcome from everyone I met. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wilson" <pwil@ix.netcom.com> > Liz - Please add me to the list of attendees if the planes are flying > there > by then from the US. I am sorry that I had some complications pop up and > wasn't able to host you last fall.

Pat Hase wrote: > Hi Liz, > > Oct 2nd is fine for me and so is the proposed location in Clevedon! Look > forward to meeting up with old friends and perhaps making a few new ones. It was lovely to see you yesterday at the Gloucestshire Family History Day and I've put the Weston super Mare Family History Day on 10 July on the calendar as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Liz wrote: > Great. Look forward to meeting you again. I too thought Clevedon was a > good location. Plenty of parking, nice walks for those who just might > want...*great cemetery within yards*...I remember spending hours looking at > all the MIs on my way back from church on a Sunday! I was interested in > family history even then. ROFL Of all the local attractions there are to visit only this one could be of interest to family historians and genealogists :D Reminds me of an echo from the past: whenever we went passed a village cricket match whilst on a day out somewhere in the car when I was a child, my sisters and I would sing out "drop mummy there, drop mummy there". Now when we're in the car and we pass a cemetery, my dau sings out, "drop mum there" or asks if we might have anyone buried there. There's a growl from behind the wheel "we are not stopping". My husband really can't understand the interest (or pleasure) in wandering through a cemetery or churchyard <VBG> At least my father shared my mother's interest in cricket <G> -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Does the certificate say mother Lily Lightholder or Lily Lambourne formerly Lightholder. I also note on familysearch there is a Pedigree Resource File submitted by Adrian John Lambourne of 81 Darwin Terrace Mandurah WA mentioning William John Lambourne born 4 Feb 1869 3 Bartletts Place Lyncombe and Widcombe Bath and Lily Lightholder Mike in Droitwich pat bernie wrote: > > Later that year son George Bertie was born (freebmd Sept 1901 Bristol 6a 55) > Birth Cert confirms that he was born at 249 Hotwells Rd -father William but mother Lily Lightholder. - another anomaly! >

What a frustrating time for you! The Cottage Homes at Downend were indeed set up to provide accommodation for children who would otherwise have been in a Workhouse (in this case 100 Fishponds Road - the Eastville Workhouse). It is entirely possible for one (or both) of their parents to still be alive but for a number of reasons unable to cope with their children. >From A2A you can see that Bristol Record Office does hold a Register of births and deaths at the Eastville Workhouse - so you might find the parents in that (the death register) [no title] BCC/D/SS/2 1898-1943 These documents are held at Bristol Record Office Former reference: 30105/2 1 vol Contents: Register of births and deaths: 5 April 1898-6 Oct. 1943 3 April 1898-22 Jan. 1907 Registers of deaths BCC/D/SS/3 [n.d.] These documents are held at Bristol Record Office Former reference: 30105/3 [no title] BCC/D/SS/3/4 4 Jan. 1889 - 15 June 1898; 1898 - 1907 [no title] BCC/D/SS/3/5 23 Jan. 1907 - 30 July 1914 [no title] BCC/D/SS/3/6 5 Jan. 1924 - 30 Sept. 1928 [no title] BCC/D/SS/3/7 2 Oct. 1928 - 10 Jan. 1933 [no title] BCC/D/SS/3/8 10 Jan. 1933 - 24 Jan. 1937 [no title] BCC/D/SS/3/9 24 Jan. 1937 - 29 Dec. 1939 [no title] BCC/D/SS/4 6 Feb. 1907 - 6 Aug. 1931 These documents are held at Bristol Record Office Former reference: 30105/4 1 vol. Contents: Register of baptisms (parish of St Thomas Eastville) You mention that the mother of George Bertie is given as Lily LIGHTHOLDER Do you have the birth certificate of any of the other children to determine the mother's name? I see that there is a family tree on Ancestry which has actual birth dates and places of birth for Frank, Mabel & George Bertie - it looks as if the owner might have seen certificates for these. The eldest son William does not have an actual birth date nor is there an address for his place of birth. It might be worth contacting the owner of that tree. There are probably other avenues open to you as well! Best wishes Pat H ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat bernie" <thebulleys@yahoo.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: [B&D] suggestions please for further research Dear Listers I have just spent the day at the Bristol records office and found NOTHING - despite having quite a lot of information to go on. I have hit a brick wall. If anyone would like to make suggestions for further clues, please read on. Information from Census.1901 @ 249 Hotwells Rd Bristol Although the following family should be Lambourne it has been wrongly transcribed as Lambert- it is definitely the right family. William Lambert 32 mar Baker bn Bath Som Sarah J Lambert 33 wife bn Bradford Yorkshire William Lambert son 7 bn Bristol Frank Lambert son 5 born Bristol Mabel Lambert dau 3 bn Bristol (freebmd birth Dec 1/4 1898 Barton Regis 6a 126) Later that year son George Bertie was born (freebmd Sept 1901 Bristol 6a 55) Birth Cert confirms that he was born at 249 Hotwells Rd -father William but mother Lily Lightholder. - another anomaly! Ten years later - 1911 census back to the name Lambourne. Frank is a cabinet maker boarding at Pennywell Road Bristol Mabel and George (age 12 & 9) are 'inmates' at a school in Keynsham. I have subsequently discovered that they are at the Crescent homes Downend- a refuge for orphan & destitute children cared for by the Bristol Poor Law Union Board of Guardians. Any suggestions gratefully received ----and thank you to anyone who has read this far. Best wishes Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hilary Thanks for your thoughts, but I think that in this case it probably stands for Sodbury Registration District as this was the basis that the Enumeration was organised on, and not on the basis of the council districts - which is what Rural and Urban Districts would have referred to at that point. But it does illustrate the fact that they should give some guidance as to what it does mean - also as Adrian said it would be nice to have some indication if there were other people at the address whose details they cannot divulge because they do not know them to be dead. I found it most frustrating that I was asked to complete a survey and the only answers were already given, none of which were really apposite in this case, and there was no-where one could add comments or suggestions. Kind regards Polly

Hi Pat Great. Look forward to meeting you again. I too thought Clevedon was a good location. Plenty of parking, nice walks for those who just might want...great cemetery within yards...I remember spending hours looking at all the MIs on my way back from church on a Sunday! I was interested in family history even then. Have added you to the list and nearer the time I will, as usual, be sending out the menus. Best wishes Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] 2010 Bunfight > Hi Liz, > > Oct 2nd is fine for me and so is the proposed location in Clevedon! Look > forward to meeting up with old friends and perhaps making a few new ones. > > Please add me to the list. > > Pat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> > To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:15 PM > Subject: [B&D] 2010 Bunfight > > >> Hello everyone...I hope you've all had a good Easter break and are now >> getting back to research. >> >> While trying to find another interesting location for a bunfight, I >> decided >> to try the Salt House at Clevedon. This is an ideal location with masses >> of >> car park...I should know, I was at school only yards away! >> >> As I'm hoping to go to Australia in October, the weekend that best suits >> me >> for a Bunfight is 2nd October. October can be beautiful weather, an >> Indian >> Summer, the kids are back at school, students are at Uni so it should be >> lovely and peaceful. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >