Hi Meryl, Thanks for your encouragement. I've already had a reply from the Local secretary who has passed my message on to their librarian so I am hopeful. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meryl Phillips" <merylphillips@sky.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Freemasons in Bristol - 19th C Hi, I managed to find my grandfathers lodge in Ireland a couple of years ago, there is more on the internet than you would think. Having identified the lodge, I e mailed them and got a reply. If the lodge is not in existance any more contact The Grand Lodge of England (I think thats what it was). Unfortunately in between then and now I have had computer glitches and lost some info Good luck On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had > insignia > on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral of > one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a > Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol. Thomas LONG died in 1896 and > attended Benjamin's funeral. > Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this > period available in Bristol? Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol > between > 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. > Thanks > > Pat > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I managed to find my grandfathers lodge in Ireland a couple of years ago, there is more on the internet than you would think. Having identified the lodge, I e mailed them and got a reply. If the lodge is not in existance any more contact The Grand Lodge of England (I think thats what it was). Unfortunately in between then and now I have had computer glitches and lost some info Good luck On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Pat Hase <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had insignia > on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral of > one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a > Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol.  Thomas LONG died in 1896 and > attended Benjamin's funeral. > Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this > period available in Bristol?  Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol between > 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. > Thanks > > Pat > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Karen wrote: > Actually, he's got a cross of St George - not a Union Flag at all! So he has... and I think it's a shield, not a flag? Happy St George's Day, anyway! Jan _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

Phil wrote: > [...] Union Flag - not Jack pleeeease! <<Whether to use "Union Flag" or "Union Jack" is a matter of debate. The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a "relatively recent idea". Jack was a word previously used to denote any flag.[4] It also noted that "From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".[3]>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag ;o) Jan _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Happy St. George's Day one and all! Actually, he's got a cross of St George - not a Union Flag at all! Karen On 23 April 2010 11:19, Phil Warn <philwarnorp@googlemail.com> wrote: > Have a great St George's Day today, folks. > > Happy birthday Will! > > Google as usual has a knight on a steed with the Union Flag - not Jack > pleeeease! > > Phil > >

Have a great St George's Day today, folks. Happy birthday Will! Google as usual has a knight on a steed with the Union Flag - not Jack pleeeease! Phil

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8639000/8639101.stm Edna - Ottawa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_George%27s_Day (;-)) Edna - Ottawa

Hi Edna, Liz & Charani, That's all useful information - thank you very much. That site is very informative, Edna, thanks for that. I was aware of the building at the bottom of Park Street - I believe it was built originally for the Bristol Institution for the Advancement of Science, Literature and the Arts in about 1820 and housed their Museum & Galleries. It was sold to the Freemasons in about 1871 when the museum moved into new buildings in Queens Road - now Browns Restaurant. Only the outer walls of the Park Street building remained after the war but I didn't know whether their records had been lost. So thank you for that Liz - what a pity! But, were there were other Lodges in Bristol at the time I am interested in? As they didn't move to Park Street until 1871 where were they meet before? I will start by using the contact address given on the Province of Bristol Site http://www.provinceofbristol.org.uk/index.htm email prov.sec@provinceofbristol.org If all else fails locally then I will follow your suggestion Charani and contact London. With thanks Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [B&D] Freemasons in Bristol - 19th C > Hi Pat > > The following information came from a Mason in Bristol for you. > > Freemasons Hall in Bristol is at the foot of Park St. on the right > It was severely damaged in the war and was completely rebuilt. > I think it was re-opened in about 1960. All records were lost I understand > You must be aware of the records office in the old tobacco warehouse I am > sure > A friend of mine is senior and active in Park St, he might be able to > help. > I could find his email address if it might help you > Bear in mind there are 36 lodges in Bristol and ALL of them are housed in > Freemasons Hall. > > Would you like me to obtain the email address of the Senior? > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> > > >>I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had >>insignia >> on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral >> of >> one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a >> Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol. Thomas LONG died in 1896 and >> attended Benjamin's funeral. >> Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this >> period available in Bristol? Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol >> between >> 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. >> Thanks >> >> Pat > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just in case any of you are experiencing the problems I'm having, here is the response from their Technical people: I am very sorry, at this time we are having technical issues with the 1851 census. Our developers are aware of the problem and hope to have it resolved soon. Feedback from you, our valued customer, helps us correct errors and improve the website. Your patience and efforts to assist us in this matter are appreciated. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset

Hi Pat The following information came from a Mason in Bristol for you. Freemasons Hall in Bristol is at the foot of Park St. on the right It was severely damaged in the war and was completely rebuilt. I think it was re-opened in about 1960. All records were lost I understand You must be aware of the records office in the old tobacco warehouse I am sure A friend of mine is senior and active in Park St, he might be able to help. I could find his email address if it might help you Bear in mind there are 36 lodges in Bristol and ALL of them are housed in Freemasons Hall. Would you like me to obtain the email address of the Senior? Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> >I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had insignia > on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral of > one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a > Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol. Thomas LONG died in 1896 and > attended Benjamin's funeral. > Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this > period available in Bristol? Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol > between > 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. > Thanks > > Pat

Hi Further top Marion's comments ... yes this is a very significant event for the Cemetery - its not really a 'reopening' as its always been open (thanks to the efforts of the Friends of Arnos Vale Cemetery who campaigned to save it). This is a celebration to mark the completion of the main restoration project - including the main buildings, paths, walls and a some monuments. If you haven't visited for some time you will see some dramatic changes! If you've never visited ... you must! :) Loads of entertainment type things are going on to attract interest including a small team of volunteers who will be running heritage tours all day on Saturday 1st May... note there will be a charge for tours but entry to the cemetery is of course free and you can walk around as much as you like ... or perhaps buy one of the self guided tour leaflets. No cars are allowed into the cemetery during these celebration days - one good way to get around this is to use the park and ride bus from Brislington - it will stop right outside the cemetery gates. Regards Dave Napier Friends of Arnos Vale Cemetery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Bennett" <marian.bennett@virgin.net> To: "Bristol_and_District" <BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: [B&D] Arnos Vale Cemetery >I know many list members are interested in Arnos Vale Cemetery in Bristol. > The City Council has issued a press release about the reopening of the > cemetery on 29th April, followed by an open weekend from Friday 30th April > to Monday May 3rd. > > The link to the press release is: > http://www.bristol.gov.uk/redirect?oid=PressRelease-id-34054013 > > Alternatively, see: > http://www.arnosvale.org.uk/index.php/news/122-april-launch-press-release > > > Marian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know many list members are interested in Arnos Vale Cemetery in Bristol. The City Council has issued a press release about the reopening of the cemetery on 29th April, followed by an open weekend from Friday 30th April to Monday May 3rd. The link to the press release is: http://www.bristol.gov.uk/redirect?oid=PressRelease-id-34054013 Alternatively, see: http://www.arnosvale.org.uk/index.php/news/122-april-launch-press-release Marian

Thank you everyone for your input and comments re this will, especially the information and the web link regarding privateering which I didn't know about. Nancy, I will certainly look for the inventory as suggested next time I rget to my local LDS library. I only wish I had more free time! Amanda Kerby

Hi Alan, Thankyou for the information but ithey are a little early yet, sitll looking for a link in the 1700 for a FISCHER to my CLARKEs. Maybe once I get past this hurdle your refs might become more useful! Nevertheless interesting to see another spelling variant. Amanda NZ

Pat Hase wrote: > I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had insignia > on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral of > one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a > Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol. Thomas LONG died in 1896 and > attended Benjamin's funeral. > Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this > period available in Bristol? Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol between > 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. If you don't get any joy from the link Edna gave, try contacting Grand Lodge in London. I've not contacted them myself, despite having Freemasons in my family, but I gatgher they can be very helpful. Sons often followed their fathers into a Lodge but not always. Some Freemasons belonged to more than one Lodge as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had insignia on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral of one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol. Thomas LONG died in 1896 and attended Benjamin's funeral. Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this period available in Bristol? Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol between 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. Thanks Pat

Ian wrote > IGI has a John PALMER baptised Wellingborough, Notts 26 Jul > 1848. Parents > given as Isaac PALMER and Elizabeth. > > and ...... a John PALMER birth was registered Oct-Dec 1846 > Wellingborough > ( Ref Vol 15 Page 410). > > Census and/or baptism records should tell you whether this > Isaac was a > mason. > Have followed this one thru Ian, and it isnt the right person, thanks for the suggestion, it could have been him. Thanks Pat

Pardon me if this a slightly long winded but............. I am looking for Elizabeth EDMUNDS c 1835 apparently born Ames in Devon [see below]. I have been contacted by a gent on Devon List who says that there is an Ames near Exmouth, so this could be true. I am still a bit suspect though as to whether Elizabeth really came from Devon. This LUDLOW family are transcribed as LUDLUM on Ancestry in 1851 and Elizabeth is EDWARDS. In 1861 in the same LUDLOW Family there is a Hannah EDMONDS [also below] aged 49 born Henbury. What I would like to know is...............Is Elizabeth Hannah's daughter? Did Elizabeth marry and then did mother Hannah take over her position with the LUDLOW'S? Has anyone got Elizabeth or Hannah in their Tree so that I can eliminate this Elizabeth as having been born in Devon as the census says. >From Gordon Beavington's 1851 census CD 317 LUDLOW Arthur 40 Chergyman Unemployed Bristol St Michaels Ann 36 Ireland Ann 7 Gloucestershire Compton + Catherine 2 Clifton Thomas 10m Clifton SHEPPARD Sophia Visitor 31 Ireland THOMAS Margaret Servant 37 Pembrokeshire Amroth DAVIES Elizabeth Servant Widow/er 65 Monmouthshire Crick HALL Joseph Servant 16 Henbury CERP / CARP Mary Servant 14 Gloucestershire Compton Grenfield EDMUNDS Elizabeth Servant 16 Devon Ames ******** In 1851 4 EDMONDS Hannah 39 House Keeper to Rector Compton CORP Enino Servant 14 Compton **** 1861 Henbury John Ludlow 40 head Vicar of Compton Bristol Jane Ludlow 77 widow Ireland Mary J Ludlow 54 daughter (presumably of Jane) Bristol Hannah Edmonds 49 servant Henbury, Glos Harriet Corp 16 servant Henbury, Glos Regards Bev Edmonds Australia

Wonder if you contact them ... http://www.provinceofbristol.org.uk/Lodges/Moira.htm Edna - sunny Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:42 PM Subject: [B&D] Freemasons in Bristol - 19th C I know that my gg grandfather Thomas LONG was a Freemason - he had insignia on his business card - but I have just found the details of the funeral of one of his sons in law (Benjamin GAY died in 1885) who was described as a Past Master of the Moira Lodge in Bristol. Thomas LONG died in 1896 and attended Benjamin's funeral. Does anyone know whether there are records of Bristol Freemasons of this period available in Bristol? Thomas LONG was in business in Bristol between 1840-1880 so I'm looking for Lodges which were open at that time. Thanks Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message