I had a link to a site which had CMBs for Frenchay and the surrounding area but lost it in a double PC crash. Does anyone know the site I mean and, if so, could they let me have the link for it again please? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

http://visitbristol.co.uk/site/about-bristol/famous-bristol Taken from VisitBristol site. Some interesting people who live/lived in Bristol Edna - Ottawa

HILARY BLANFORD wrote: > There's a good choice of wills for John Bidells and Biddles on TNA > site. No exact match for age and domicile but I favour the Dorset > clerk as a possible grandfather (thinking of literacy levels!). I > did not look at the IR list The Melbury Osmond clerk is a possible, but I rather favour the Brstol soapmaker as a possible grandfather or great grandfather. He's slightly earler 1729 as opposed to the clerk's 1733. Sounds like we're discussing who's going to win the 3.20 at Uttoxeter! LOL -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

There's a good choice of wills for John Bidells and Biddles on TNA site. No exact match for age and domicile but I favour the Dorset clerk as a possible grandfather (thinking of literacy levels!). I did not look at the IR list HB > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, 29 April, 2010, 0:06 > HILARY BLANFORD wrote: > > I agree that the 'journeyman' tag favours a > printer.  If that is > > correct I wonder if there might be an apprenticeship > record > > somewhere - although I know it's a bit late.  > Nothing in the > > Origins lists. > > Thanks for looking on Origins :)) > > Your mentioning of an apprenticeship prompted me to have a > look at the > Burgesses CD from BAFHS.  I found a John BIDDELL, > printer, who was > made a burgess 2 July 1812.  He had served an > apprenticeship of at > least 7 years to burgess.  His patron was Richard > JENKINS and then > John ROSE who appears to have been a printer as well.  > There's no > trade against Richard JENKINS name and he only appears as a > patron > that once.  There was a Richard JENKINS who was a > printer and who > became a burgess in 1804. > > It seems John did serve an apprenticeship, if it is the > same John. > > Edwin BIDDELL, labourer, who was made a burgess in 1838 and > who was > John's only surviving son (baptised 1817) which was his > route in. > Again, John is given as a printer. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk >

HILARY BLANFORD wrote: > I agree that the 'journeyman' tag favours a printer. If that is > correct I wonder if there might be an apprenticeship record > somewhere - although I know it's a bit late. Nothing in the > Origins lists. Thanks for looking on Origins :)) Your mentioning of an apprenticeship prompted me to have a look at the Burgesses CD from BAFHS. I found a John BIDDELL, printer, who was made a burgess 2 July 1812. He had served an apprenticeship of at least 7 years to burgess. His patron was Richard JENKINS and then John ROSE who appears to have been a printer as well. There's no trade against Richard JENKINS name and he only appears as a patron that once. There was a Richard JENKINS who was a printer and who became a burgess in 1804. It seems John did serve an apprenticeship, if it is the same John. Edwin BIDDELL, labourer, who was made a burgess in 1838 and who was John's only surviving son (baptised 1817) which was his route in. Again, John is given as a printer. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

CathyCripp@aol.com wrote: > Nor here, so can't offer to help you out either, sorry.. I wouldn't expect you to but thank you for the thought :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

CathyCripp@aol.com wrote: > Just a thought, but is there any chance the transcriptions are wrong, that > he may just be a printer, or a painter....the a and r in the words being > wrongly read in some cases? It's quite possible, especially as it's only one letter different. I'd only know for sure by looking at the actual parish registers which is not something I'm going to be able to do any time soon. There isn't an LDS FHC anywhere near where I live either unfortunately. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Mike, As the saying always went....."Bristol.....the city of churches and pubs"....my Grandfather in St George used to love that phrase, Peter On 4/28/10, Mike Matthews <mike@boddyparts.co.uk> wrote: > >From my office window I can see the towers of:- > > St Michael-on-the-Mount > St Matthew, Kingsdown > St James > St Agnes > St Paul > St John > Christchurch > All Saints > St Nicholas > St Mary-le-Port > St Peter > St Philip & Jacob > St Stephen > St Mary Redcliffe > St Paul, Bedminster > > And I can just see St Thomas peeping over the buildings and St Luke, Barton > Hill in the distance. Oh, and our office is next door to St > Mary-on-the-Quay. > > Which city/town has the record for the largest concentration of churches? > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree that the 'journeyman' tag favours a printer.  If that is correct I wonder if there might be an apprenticeship record somewhere - although I know it's a bit late. Nothing in the Origins lists. HB --- On Wed, 28/4/10, Charani <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> wrote: > From: Charani <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [B&D] John BIDDLE 1793-1846/56 > To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 10:52 > CathyCripp@aol.com > wrote: > > Just a thought, but is there any chance the > transcriptions are wrong, that  > > he may just be a printer, or a painter....the a and r > in the words being > > wrongly  read in some cases? > > It's quite possible, especially as it's only one letter > different. > I'd only know for sure by looking at the actual parish > registers which > is not something I'm going to be able to do any time > soon.  There > isn't an LDS FHC anywhere near where I live either > unfortunately. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi again Charani, You say in the subject line of your email that you think that John died 1846/56. If the John BIDDLE I found in 1841 (in my previous email) was the right one, then he is in the 1851 census with same wife and children. Occupation still Printer. I can send the images if you are interested. Dallas 1841 Name: John Biddle Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Hundred: Bristol City County/Island: Gloucestershire Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Biddle 45 Mary Biddle 45 Ann Biddle 20 Henrietta Biddle 15 Adelaide Biddle 7 Ann Smith 70 1851 Name: John Biddle Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary H Gender: Male Where born: Bristol; St Pauls Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob County/Island: Gloucestershire Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 160 Household Members: Name Age John Biddle 48 born Bristol St Pauls Mary H Biddle 35 born Surrey Henrietta Biddle 25 Tailoress born Bristol Adelaide Biddle 17 Tailoress born Bristol Annie M Biddle 29 Shoe Binder born Bristol George Biddle 2 grandson born Bristol Mary Ann Yeandell 42 By 1861 Mary is a widow. 1861 Name: Mary J Biddle Age: 66 Estimated birth year: abt 1795 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Streatham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob County/Island: Gloucestershire Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Mary J Biddle 66 Harriet H Biddle 36 Hannah M Melhuish 39 John Melhuish 39 Edward J Melhuish 4 Adeloride L York 27 John H York 24 Henry J York 14 Mo And in 1871 Mary is living alone (at the same address as 1861) but next door to daughter Adelaide and her family. 1871 Name: Mary A Biddle Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Streatham, Somerset, England Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip and St Jacob County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 188 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Biddle 77 -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 06:53 AM To: B+D List Subject: [B&D] John BIDDLE 1793-1846/56 John BIDDLE married Mary Ann SINDFIELD on 15 Feb 1814 and had 7, possibly 8, children. His occupation alternates between painter and printer. In 1817 (living in St Paul's, Bristol) he's a painter. In 1819 (still in St Paul's) he's a printer. In 1822 (living St James) he's a printer. In 1828 and 1831 (living in Ss Philip & Joseph) he's a painter again. In 1834 (still in Pip & Jay) he's a printer again. He may have done painting when he didn't have any printing to do or he may have kept changing his occupation or the person who made up the baptismal registers had such lousy writing, one or the other is a mistranscription. Does anyone have John BIDDLE, son of Benedict and Sarah (nee MATTHEWS) in their tree and has a single occupation for John? Alternatively, if someone happens to be in Bristol Record Office sometime, could they double check John's occupation for me please? Failing that, does anyone have a hotline to The Other Side to ask him what he actually did for a living? ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charani, If it is any help, he was transcribed as a J. (Journeyman perhaps?) Printer in the 1841 census. Children were Ann 20, Henrietta 15, Adelaide 7. Wife Mary is described as not being born in County. Cheers Dallas -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 06:53 AM To: B+D List Subject: [B&D] John BIDDLE 1793-1846/56 John BIDDLE married Mary Ann SINDFIELD on 15 Feb 1814 and had 7, possibly 8, children. His occupation alternates between painter and printer. In 1817 (living in St Paul's, Bristol) he's a painter. In 1819 (still in St Paul's) he's a printer. In 1822 (living St James) he's a printer. In 1828 and 1831 (living in Ss Philip & Joseph) he's a painter again. In 1834 (still in Pip & Jay) he's a printer again. He may have done painting when he didn't have any printing to do or he may have kept changing his occupation or the person who made up the baptismal registers had such lousy writing, one or the other is a mistranscription. Does anyone have John BIDDLE, son of Benedict and Sarah (nee MATTHEWS) in their tree and has a single occupation for John? Alternatively, if someone happens to be in Bristol Record Office sometime, could they double check John's occupation for me please? Failing that, does anyone have a hotline to The Other Side to ask him what he actually did for a living? ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dallas Window wrote: > Hi again Charani, > > You say in the subject line of your email that you think that John > died 1846/56. If the John BIDDLE I found in 1841 (in my previous > email) was the right one, then he is in the 1851 census with same > wife and children. Occupation still Printer. There were two options for John's death but his presence in the 1851 census means his death is the 1856 one although he's lost a decade in age between the two censuses <BG> Thank you for that :)) I shall have to have a ferret around and see if I can find out whose son young George was: Edwin's (John and Mary Ann's only surviving son) or one of the daus, possibly Anna (Annie) Maria's since she's been listed below her sisters and directly above 2 yo George. > I can send the images if you are interested. Many thanks :)) 8>< lots of good stuff but noted > By 1861 Mary is a widow. And still has the same three daus living with her, despite two being married. Anna (Hannah) Maria left it late. I think I ought to have shares in the rail network with the way various family members go back and forth from the South West to the South East! <G> 8>< > And in 1871 Mary is living alone (at the same address as 1861) but > next door to daughter Adelaide and her family. 8>< Mary Ann had a good innings. She died the following year age 78. Thanks for your help. Tis much appreciated :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

In a message dated 28/04/2010 10:53:22 GMT Daylight Time, familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk writes: <<<It's quite possible, especially as it's only one letter different. I'd only know for sure by looking at the actual parish registers which is not something I'm going to be able to do any time soon. There isn't an LDS FHC anywhere near where I live either unfortunately>>> Nor here, so can't offer to help you out either, sorry..

Just a thought, but is there any chance the transcriptions are wrong, that he may just be a printer, or a painter....the a and r in the words being wrongly read in some cases? Cathy

Dallas Window wrote: > Hi Charani, > > If it is any help, he was transcribed as a J. (Journeyman perhaps?) > Printer in the 1841 census. Yes, it is helpful. Thanks :)) It makes my thought he might be switching between jobs pretty close to the mark given he was a journeyman printer. I don't know any other interpretation for the 'J'. > Children were Ann 20, Henrietta 15, Adelaide 7. Ann was Anna Maria (bapt 1822), Henrietta was Harriet Henrietta (bapt 1828 and Adelaide was Adelaide Vyvyan (bapt 1834). > Wife Mary is described as not being born in County. When she and John married, both were given as being OTP but I knew John wasn't. They'd appear to have both lived there long enough to qualify. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

>From my office window I can see the towers of:- St Michael-on-the-Mount St Matthew, Kingsdown St James St Agnes St Paul St John Christchurch All Saints St Nicholas St Mary-le-Port St Peter St Philip & Jacob St Stephen St Mary Redcliffe St Paul, Bedminster And I can just see St Thomas peeping over the buildings and St Luke, Barton Hill in the distance. Oh, and our office is next door to St Mary-on-the-Quay. Which city/town has the record for the largest concentration of churches? Mike

John BIDDLE married Mary Ann SINDFIELD on 15 Feb 1814 and had 7, possibly 8, children. His occupation alternates between painter and printer. In 1817 (living in St Paul's, Bristol) he's a painter. In 1819 (still in St Paul's) he's a printer. In 1822 (living St James) he's a printer. In 1828 and 1831 (living in Ss Philip & Joseph) he's a painter again. In 1834 (still in Pip & Jay) he's a printer again. He may have done painting when he didn't have any printing to do or he may have kept changing his occupation or the person who made up the baptismal registers had such lousy writing, one or the other is a mistranscription. Does anyone have John BIDDLE, son of Benedict and Sarah (nee MATTHEWS) in their tree and has a single occupation for John? Alternatively, if someone happens to be in Bristol Record Office sometime, could they double check John's occupation for me please? Failing that, does anyone have a hotline to The Other Side to ask him what he actually did for a living? ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Weston super Mare is in the news again. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/8643567.stm A trip up there might be in the offing at the end of next month to see how it's all progressing. Hopefully the current spell of beautiful weather will continue at least until then. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Whilst at the Gloucestershire Family History Open Day last weekend, I picked up three little guide books, one of which was for Somerset by GW and JH Wade and published by Methuen. It's like a mini version of the VCH :)) It's illustratred, with two maps and two plans as well. The first edition was published in 1905. I have a copy of the fifth edition, published in 1920. At the time it cost 4/- (20p) A handy little pocket guide and (IMO) worth looking out for. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Just as I thought it was safe to take the list off mod, there's been another victim :(( -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk