Polly Rubery wrote: > Trouble was when they did this they didn't really expect anyone to read > their annotations - it was just there to confirm that the entry had been > enumerated under the appropriate heading and not just counted as a plain > labourer for instance. > > And in fact as far as FHs go they aren't really of that much use, as in a > lot of cases they are more general than the occupation actually given. The > only person interested in them today would be the obsessive > historian/statistician who wanted to check the figures in the census reports > for a given area - and good luck to them, I say! I agree they were purely for statistical purposes, nevertheless, it's good that we can see them although lumping various occupations under a group heading is not especially helpful. Whilst they have a limited use as far as occupations go, the info on family groups, esp in the 1911, is helpful. BTW, you aren't suggesting family historians are obsessive, are you? ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Mike, Thanks for posting the information. I see on the website that "Articles from the service have been harvested and are available from the Google News Archive Search". I hadn't come across that in Google, despite being a keen user of Google Maps, Books and others. It offers another way to search the newspapers, and the timeline facility is especially good. The link is: http://news.google.com/archivesearch I hope other newspapers will be made available in this service - it could become an extremely valuable resource for family historians. Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Powter Sent: 02 May 2010 00:24 To: BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT@rootsweb.com; BRITISH-MARINERS@rootsweb.com; ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&D] News from downunder Hello friends, I don't know if this is news, or is of interest, but Australian newspapers are being digitised and made available for searching. I live in outer Sydney and have just revisited the site for the first time in a while and there has been a great deal of progress since my last visit. The search results I don't think are as easy to use as The Times search engine but if you are patient the rewards can be excellent. Link: http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/about Search is in the top right hand corner. You can also search within a search which is quite useful. Have fun. Regards .... Mike Powter

PS: -- http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Community-Living/Marriages/register-office-frequently-asked-questions.en Edna - Ottawa

The death certificate will tell you if there was an Inquest. You can contact the Coroner's Office at The Courthouse, Old Weston Road, Flax Bourton BS48 1UL Tel: 01275 461 920. This might be helpful. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mclachlan" <barbmcl@xtra.co.nz> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com>; <BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: [B&D] Re Inquest Sorry, should have said that the death was in Bristol at an Infirmary. Not sure which one though. Registration district for the Death Cert is St. Augustine City and County of Bristol. Thanks. Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>>No, it isn't. I really wish these enumerators had got their crystal balls out and realised that 120 years on, we'd be wanting to read these books <G><< Trouble was when they did this they didn't really expect anyone to read their annotations - it was just there to confirm that the entry had been enumerated under the appropriate heading and not just counted as a plain labourer for instance. And in fact as far as FHs go they aren't really of that much use, as in a lot of cases they are more general than the occupation actually given. The only person interested in them today would be the obsessive historian/statistician who wanted to check the figures in the census reports for a given area - and good luck to them, I say! Polly

Pat Hase wrote: > Could it be "Mineral" relating to the trade in which he was employed > (mineral water)? You're closer than I was :)) I'd got the "M" and the "Wat" but didn't make the connection. > Not easy to see. No, it isn't. I really wish these enumerators had got their crystal balls out and realised that 120 years on, we'd be wanting to read these books <G> -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Polly Rubery wrote: > Hi Charani > > This is an annotation by the census clerks and it reads "Min Wat" as in > "Mineral water" > HTH Yes, it does, thank you :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Could it be "Mineral" relating to the trade in which he was employed (mineral water)? Not easy to see. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: "B+D List" <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: [B&D] Francis William YORK 1891 census > Francis W(illiam) YORK is shown in the 1891 census as living with his > parents John H(enry) and Adelaide V(yvyan) at 21 Jacob Street, > Bristol. He's 15 and a labourer at a ginger beer works but another > word has been added before "labourer" which I can't make out. > > Can anyone decipher it please? > > The reference is: RG12 piece 1960 folio 24 page 2 > > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Charani This is an annotation by the census clerks and it reads "Min Wat" as in "Mineral water" HTH Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: "B+D List" <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: [B&D] Francis William YORK 1891 census Francis W(illiam) YORK is shown in the 1891 census as living with his parents John H(enry) and Adelaide V(yvyan) at 21 Jacob Street, Bristol. He's 15 and a labourer at a ginger beer works but another word has been added before "labourer" which I can't make out. Can anyone decipher it please? The reference is: RG12 piece 1960 folio 24 page 2 -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Francis W(illiam) YORK is shown in the 1891 census as living with his parents John H(enry) and Adelaide V(yvyan) at 21 Jacob Street, Bristol. He's 15 and a labourer at a ginger beer works but another word has been added before "labourer" which I can't make out. Can anyone decipher it please? The reference is: RG12 piece 1960 folio 24 page 2 -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hello friends, I don't know if this is news, or is of interest, but Australian newspapers are being digitised and made available for searching. I live in outer Sydney and have just revisited the site for the first time in a while and there has been a great deal of progress since my last visit. The search results I don't think are as easy to use as The Times search engine but if you are patient the rewards can be excellent. Link: http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/about Search is in the top right hand corner. You can also search within a search which is quite useful. Have fun. Regards .... Mike Powter

If so please could you contact me off List please? Thanks Polly

Congratulations Dave, and thank you for all the work you have put into this project, Cathy

Hi Charani Yes - it was a useful bit of publicity for this weekend's celebrations of the completion of the restoration project at the cemetery. If anyone lives locally, today would be a good day to visit and enjoy the events taking place - including tours and singing in the Anglican chapel this afternoon (details on www.arnosvale.org.uk) ... or on Sunday afternoon when there a service with more singing. I am ambivalent about the new increased charges which have been announced for record searches, although I understand the need for the Trust to raise money to support the cemetery. If any 'lister' decides to pay up for a search and gets a positive result, I would be very happy to volunteer to help them locate the grave - or even find it myself, photograph it and email the result - just email me the plot number, names and known dates off list. Regards Dave Napier -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 01 May 2010 00:29 To: B+D List Subject: [B&D] Fame at last for list member Dave Napier :)) http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8649 000/8649535.stm Fame for our Dave Napier as a result of his work at Arnos Vale Cemetery. It is a rather lovely statue. The family had a son who was 16 years older than Emily Mary. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8649000/8649535.stm Fame for our Dave Napier as a result of his work at Arnos Vale Cemetery. It is a rather lovely statue. The family had a son who was 16 years older than Emily Mary. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Pat Hase wrote: > The site you are looking for is: > http://www.frenchaymuseumarchives.co.uk/NewArchives.htm Many thanks :)) > This is a marvellous site and there is also the fascinating little museum > which you can visit as well (opening times Wednesdays and Saturdays - > they're on the site): > > To explore the whole site and it's well worth the time > http://www.frenchaymuseumarchives.co.uk/NewHomePage.htm > > There's even a photograph of where I went to school in Stapleton in > Brinkworthy Road! I've not looked at the rest of the site before, only the CMBs. It does look very interesting. I've only skimmed it at the moment. I#ll have a better look later :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Put in search Bristol or another town, and view old film... http://www.britishpathe.com/ You might find these films interesting... Edna - Ottawa

The site you are looking for is: http://www.frenchaymuseumarchives.co.uk/NewArchives.htm This is a marvellous site and there is also the fascinating little museum which you can visit as well (opening times Wednesdays and Saturdays - they're on the site): To explore the whole site and it's well worth the time http://www.frenchaymuseumarchives.co.uk/NewHomePage.htm There's even a photograph of where I went to school in Stapleton in Brinkworthy Road! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: "B+D List" <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [B&D] Frenchay CMB site >I had a link to a site which had CMBs for Frenchay and the surrounding > area but lost it in a double PC crash. Does anyone know the site I > mean and, if so, could they let me have the link for it again please? > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Andy Phillips wrote: > Hi Charani, > > Could this be it? > http://www.frenchaymuseumarchives.co.uk/arch_parish_records.htm That's the fella! :)) Thank you very much :)) Duly saved (again) and if I do lose it again, I'll be able to find it in the archives by searching on "Frenchay" :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Charani, Could this be it? http://www.frenchaymuseumarchives.co.uk/arch_parish_records.htm Andy ---- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> >I had a link to a site which had CMBs for Frenchay and the surrounding > area but lost it in a double PC crash. Does anyone know the site I > mean and, if so, could they let me have the link for it again please? > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk