On 4 Jun 2010 at 6:53, Wendy Evans wrote: > And don't forget that John Wayne's real name was Marion Michael > Morrison. > And Doris Day was born as Doris Kappelhoff, Boris Karloff as William Henry Pratt, Marilyn Monroe as Norma Jean Baker, Michael Caine as Maurice Joseph Micklewhite and Diana Dors as Diana Fluck. But my favourite movie star name is Herbert Lom - the mad Chief Inspector Dreyfus in the Pink Panther movies - who was born in Czechoslovakia as Herbert Charles Angelo Kuchacevich ze Schluderpacheru. Too long to fit on a cinema bill, would you say? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On 3 Jun 2010 at 12:10, Diana Robinson wrote: > I wonder if the advantage of an unusual names when the person was > grown may have been counter-acted by the emotional damage done to many > of them during their school years - children can be so cruel. > Well, if you believe the supposed theory behind the famous Johnny Cash song, A Boy Named Sue, it simply made them tougher! Over here we had a famous wrestler called Big Daddy, a 24-stone Yorkshireman whose real name was Shirley Crabtree. When he died a few years back the national papers claimed in his obituary that his father had called him Shirley because it would make him a fighter. This was rubbish! I knew him when I was a young journalist and Shirley was a family surname used as a forename - it was his dad's name as well. > I noticed that someone included Shannon as a name that could cause > problems, but that is a quite common name for girls in the U.S. > The 1881 census of England and Wales has only five people with the forename Shannon and four of them were male. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

liverpud wrote: > The use of surnames as first names plus the names with seemingly with no > gender. > Working in the local library, I come across names such as McKenzie, Ramsey, > Sheridan. Often I guess mixed up when I have no idea as to the gender of > the child. > One man told me that McKenzie would drop by to pick up a book. "Oh tell him > to drop by then." > "Sorry, but McKenzie is a girl." I have that problem with some of the more recent children in the family. I'm afraid they've been marked as U (unknown sex) in my genealogical program. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Of course, we have to remember names such as Evylan, Vivian, Beverley, Somerset... (;-) Edna - Ottawa

The use of surnames as first names plus the names with seemingly with no gender. Working in the local library, I come across names such as McKenzie, Ramsey, Sheridan. Often I guess mixed up when I have no idea as to the gender of the child. One man told me that McKenzie would drop by to pick up a book. "Oh tell him to drop by then." "Sorry, but McKenzie is a girl." Oh vey, Edna - Ottawa

I was just browsing and found this: http://www.gomezsmart.myzen.co.uk/wills/ddw1805.htm Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

On 3 Jun 2010 at 8:19, Elizabeth Jack wrote: > How about poor Pansy (Gladys) Bastard born in 1896? > > Liz > > _______________________________________________ > > Elizabeth Jack > Hidden Heritage: www.hidden-heritage.co.uk > Researching BLINKHORNE, SOSBE, GWINNETT > Actually, BASTARD is not that uncommon a surname, though I believe the numbers have declined in recent years - probably for obvious reasons! If you look at the 1881 census with the Surname Atlas CD it was most prolific in Devon and Cornwall. Pansy Gladys Bastard was born at Erpingham, Norfolk, and in the 1911 census her parents Benjamin and Hannah Elizabeth Bastard were living at the post office there, her mother being the sub-postmaster and Benjamin being a carpenter and wheelwright. Her parents obviously chose flower names for their daughters because she had sisters called Lily, Violet and Iris (sounds a bit like Hyacinth, Rose and Violet Bucket in Keeping Up Appearances!). They also had a brother called Algernon Bastard. Pansy married in 1919 to George E Amies, so ceased to be a Bastard. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I wonder if the advantage of an unusual names when the person was grown may have been counter-acted by the emotional damage done to many of them during their school years - children can be so cruel. I noticed that someone included Shannon as a name that could cause problems, but that is a quite common name for girls in the U.S. Culture/sub-culture/geography has a lot to do with it. We need to not be judgmental about names that relate to different cultures. I was recently told quite indignantly that a certain first name could only belong to an African-American male. No amount of discussion would convince my boss that in fact it belonged to a Caucasian female - but it did. The now old-fashioned style of using a mother's maiden name as a middle name is still not unusual in the U.S. When I was pregnant, our proposed name, were it a son, was Kent Gardner Robinson. Kent is a not unusual name in the U.S., and Gardner is my maiden name and not unusual (though not common) as a first or middle name. My mother, in the U.K., was horrified. Why, she wanted to know, would we call a child after a county and give it a surname as a middle name? Just as well it was a girl! I do, however, worry a bit about how a woman in a recent college class got through school and remained sane with the first name of Stormy. Happy hunting!   Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bristol_and_district-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:00 AM To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Subject: BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 205 Please remember to snip (delete) all subjects that you are NOT replying to and ensure that the subject line reflects the subject you are replying to. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Do we think when we name our children? (Janet Cuff) 2. Re: Do we think when we name our children? (Tony Harrison) 3. Re: Do we think when we name our children? (Charani) 4. Re: Do we think when we name our children? (Roy Stockdill) 5. Re: Do we think when we name our children? (Roy Stockdill) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Janet Cuff <bgmjcuff@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <628095.9689.qm@web28004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The mind boggles! a teacher friend of ours,?after years of?watching new infant pupils struggle with writing?difficult names called her two boys Ben and Tom?- you couldn't get any easier than that could you. Janet ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 23:23:36 +0100 From: Tony Harrison <a.harrison1000@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D16261003311410BB2250FA75FFCD775@Tony> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Liz When my granddaughter was baptised 2 years ago there was another baptism carried out, the little girl was baptised as Miami Blue Smith Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? > Some names picked out from Ancestry - 1916 - 2005 > > Little Girl Reitsyv > Little Dad Smith > Little One Taylor > Little Ram > Little Pixie Geldof - we all know that one! > Little Wriggler Adaway > Summer Eve Adams > Summer Rose Adams > Hope Summer Adams > Summer Easter Rawlings > Pretty Brewer > Pretty Girl Lee > Chelsea Girl Dean > Baby Girl Gillham > Gypsy Girl Lee > Girl Power > Gypsy Girl Prince > Sunny Girl Senjack > Spring Blossom Buckle > Spring Plant > Bliss Winter Evans > Winter Rose Meadows > Del Boy Bexley - Yes, true! > Sunny Boy Booth > Danny Boy Botterill > Grubby Iva D Sa > Artist Pilgrim Noel > Emmanuel Love of God O Oloyede > Honey Kitten Wingate > Tom Cat Proctor > Leaf Garland > Cedar Leaf Kraus > Leaf Oakes > Willow Leaf P A Plumridge > Autumn Beach > > And last but not least...how about this one!!! > > Somerset Arthur Leigh-Wood - yes, honest just look. Born Somerset Feb > 2003. > > I just wonder how some children cope when they start school. > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:03:25 +0100 From: Charani <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> Subject: Re: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4C062C6D.9030300@family-hunter.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Janet Cuff wrote: > > The mind boggles! a teacher friend of ours, after years of watching > new infant pupils struggle with writing difficult names called her > two boys Ben and Tom - you couldn't get any easier than that could > you. My son still struggles with one of his middle names (Jeffrey) :(( It took him a while to master his surname but there wasn't anything we could do about that! I think some of the modern names do go too far. It seems some parents don't think beyond the moment. I dread to think what little Vixen will go through when she gets to school. Then there's Kestrel and Shannon in my dau's class, both mid teens. OTOH, there are some wonderful biblical names that would cause children problems today if they were still in use. I imagine they caused some children to stumble over them when they were popular. And how little Sufferance would suffer if that Puritan name were still around! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:42:22 +0100 From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4C06439E.4720.1E39DA@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Jun 2010 at 21:06, Liz wrote: > Some names picked out from Ancestry - 1916 - 2005 > > Little Girl Reitsyv > Little Dad Smith > Little One Taylor > Little Ram > Little Pixie Geldof - we all know that one! < There is absolutely nothing new about parents giving their children what might seem to some of us bizarre and barmy forenames! As a very regular contributor to Practical Family History magazine, I have often written about this in my column "Roy's Ramblings" and also in more serious features. Some time ago I had an article published about the unusual names given by Victorian parents to their offspring. I did a lot of research at FreeBMD and counted up the numbers of children who were given names like Horatio Nelson, Oliver Cromwell, Robin Hood, Charles Darwin, William Shakespeare, Florence Nightingale and even Napoleon Buenoparte (lord knows whose side those parents were on!). Victorian parents were also fond of naming children after famous battles, thus if you trawl FreeBMD you will find lots of kids named after Crimean War battles and during WWI you will find Verdun as a forename or middle name. As a journalist I once met the elder brother of Richard Burton, who was called Verdun Jenkins (Jenkins being Burton's real name) and a lovely fellow he was, too. I have a theory that parents who gave their children outlandish and unusual names, while perhaps knowing they might risk ridicule at school, genuinely believed that it would give them a head start in life and lead them to success. Were Victorian parents who called their offspring Horatio Nelson and Oliver Cromwell really any different to modern pushy parents who name their children after footballers, actresses and models? As for Pixie Geldof, when I was a features executive on a very large Sunday newspaper I was for a while in charge of the late Paula Yates and I recall her describing to me why she gave her children such unusual names like Fifi Trixibelle, Peaches Honeyblossom and Pixie. It was for precisely the reason I have described, i.e. she believed that people with unusual names would stand out in a crowd and be noticed, thus giving them a head start on the herd. Given the fact that everybody knows who they are, I am forced to agree that Paula was probably right. Really, isn't it all part of the modern cult of celebrity and the desire of the young, backed by their parents, to be famous without actually having to work for it? In my next message I will post some of the more outlandish names to be found at FreeBMD in Victorian times, which will prove my point that there is nothing new under the sun! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:03:07 +0100 From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4C06649B.13606.9F16DE@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All of the following entries can be found in Bristol registration district or nearby at FreeBMD (at Bristol except where stated)?.. Horatio Nelson Bromhead (birth 1838) Horatio Nelson Tilsley (marriage 1839) Horatio Nelson Taylor (marriage 1867) Oliver Cromwell Milsom (marriage 1868) Oliver Cromwell Holder (death 1902) Arthur Wellesley Percivall (birth 1853) Arthur Wellesley Westlake (marriage 1894) Arthur Wellesley Pike (birth 1909) [Arthur Wellesley was the Duke of Wellington, hero of Waterloo] Florence Nightingale Rippon (birth 1856) plus 10 others for Florence Nightingale including another Florence Nightingale Rippon in 1875 Inkerman Bailey Clarke (marriage 1882 - Crimean War battle) Alma Honeycombe (birth 1854, the year of the Battle of Alma) Alma Mary Polyblank (birth 1854) [Both the above births were registered in the Dec quarter and the battle took place in September] Byron Canning (birth 1904) Byron Pearce (marriage 1907) Tennyson H Penny (birth 1913) Tennyson Bodel (marriage 1919) Isambard Capper Hunt (birth 1910 - named after Isambard Brunel?) Percy Brunel Milsom (birth 1874 - could he have been a son of Oliver Cromwell Milsom, above?) William Wilberforce Jose (marriage Clifton 1862) William Wilberforce Vick (birth Clifton 1870) William Wilberforce Britton (birth Keynsham 1880) William Wilberforce Snook (birth Barton Regis 1882) Richard Shakespeare Granger (birth Keynsham 1890) Ewart Gladstone Hollier (birth Barton Regis 1883) Ewart Gladstone Jones (birth 1894) Ewart Gladstone Poole (birth 1898) Ewart Gladstone Blackmore (birth Barton Regis 1898) [plus several others called Ewart Gladstone in the Bristol area] George Disraeli J Robbins (birth 1882) And finally, you will find several entries for (presumably male) children with the forename King. However, I particularly like King KING, whose birth was registered at Stroud in the Dec quarter of 1844. Sadly, I cannot find any trace of him afterwards. Probably he was too embarrassed to use the name and gave himself another! I imagine listers will find many other examples. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------ End of BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 205 ****************************************************

How about poor Pansy (Gladys) Bastard born in 1896? Liz _______________________________________________ Elizabeth Jack Hidden Heritage: www.hidden-heritage.co.uk Researching BLINKHORNE, SOSBE, GWINNETT

All of the following entries can be found in Bristol registration district or nearby at FreeBMD (at Bristol except where stated)¦.. Horatio Nelson Bromhead (birth 1838) Horatio Nelson Tilsley (marriage 1839) Horatio Nelson Taylor (marriage 1867) Oliver Cromwell Milsom (marriage 1868) Oliver Cromwell Holder (death 1902) Arthur Wellesley Percivall (birth 1853) Arthur Wellesley Westlake (marriage 1894) Arthur Wellesley Pike (birth 1909) [Arthur Wellesley was the Duke of Wellington, hero of Waterloo] Florence Nightingale Rippon (birth 1856) plus 10 others for Florence Nightingale including another Florence Nightingale Rippon in 1875 Inkerman Bailey Clarke (marriage 1882 - Crimean War battle) Alma Honeycombe (birth 1854, the year of the Battle of Alma) Alma Mary Polyblank (birth 1854) [Both the above births were registered in the Dec quarter and the battle took place in September] Byron Canning (birth 1904) Byron Pearce (marriage 1907) Tennyson H Penny (birth 1913) Tennyson Bodel (marriage 1919) Isambard Capper Hunt (birth 1910 - named after Isambard Brunel?) Percy Brunel Milsom (birth 1874 - could he have been a son of Oliver Cromwell Milsom, above?) William Wilberforce Jose (marriage Clifton 1862) William Wilberforce Vick (birth Clifton 1870) William Wilberforce Britton (birth Keynsham 1880) William Wilberforce Snook (birth Barton Regis 1882) Richard Shakespeare Granger (birth Keynsham 1890) Ewart Gladstone Hollier (birth Barton Regis 1883) Ewart Gladstone Jones (birth 1894) Ewart Gladstone Poole (birth 1898) Ewart Gladstone Blackmore (birth Barton Regis 1898) [plus several others called Ewart Gladstone in the Bristol area] George Disraeli J Robbins (birth 1882) And finally, you will find several entries for (presumably male) children with the forename King. However, I particularly like King KING, whose birth was registered at Stroud in the Dec quarter of 1844. Sadly, I cannot find any trace of him afterwards. Probably he was too embarrassed to use the name and gave himself another! I imagine listers will find many other examples. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On 1 Jun 2010 at 21:06, Liz wrote: > Some names picked out from Ancestry - 1916 - 2005 > > Little Girl Reitsyv > Little Dad Smith > Little One Taylor > Little Ram > Little Pixie Geldof - we all know that one! < There is absolutely nothing new about parents giving their children what might seem to some of us bizarre and barmy forenames! As a very regular contributor to Practical Family History magazine, I have often written about this in my column "Roy's Ramblings" and also in more serious features. Some time ago I had an article published about the unusual names given by Victorian parents to their offspring. I did a lot of research at FreeBMD and counted up the numbers of children who were given names like Horatio Nelson, Oliver Cromwell, Robin Hood, Charles Darwin, William Shakespeare, Florence Nightingale and even Napoleon Buenoparte (lord knows whose side those parents were on!). Victorian parents were also fond of naming children after famous battles, thus if you trawl FreeBMD you will find lots of kids named after Crimean War battles and during WWI you will find Verdun as a forename or middle name. As a journalist I once met the elder brother of Richard Burton, who was called Verdun Jenkins (Jenkins being Burton's real name) and a lovely fellow he was, too. I have a theory that parents who gave their children outlandish and unusual names, while perhaps knowing they might risk ridicule at school, genuinely believed that it would give them a head start in life and lead them to success. Were Victorian parents who called their offspring Horatio Nelson and Oliver Cromwell really any different to modern pushy parents who name their children after footballers, actresses and models? As for Pixie Geldof, when I was a features executive on a very large Sunday newspaper I was for a while in charge of the late Paula Yates and I recall her describing to me why she gave her children such unusual names like Fifi Trixibelle, Peaches Honeyblossom and Pixie. It was for precisely the reason I have described, i.e. she believed that people with unusual names would stand out in a crowd and be noticed, thus giving them a head start on the herd. Given the fact that everybody knows who they are, I am forced to agree that Paula was probably right. Really, isn't it all part of the modern cult of celebrity and the desire of the young, backed by their parents, to be famous without actually having to work for it? In my next message I will post some of the more outlandish names to be found at FreeBMD in Victorian times, which will prove my point that there is nothing new under the sun! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Janet Cuff wrote: > > The mind boggles! a teacher friend of ours, after years of watching > new infant pupils struggle with writing difficult names called her > two boys Ben and Tom - you couldn't get any easier than that could > you. My son still struggles with one of his middle names (Jeffrey) :(( It took him a while to master his surname but there wasn't anything we could do about that! I think some of the modern names do go too far. It seems some parents don't think beyond the moment. I dread to think what little Vixen will go through when she gets to school. Then there's Kestrel and Shannon in my dau's class, both mid teens. OTOH, there are some wonderful biblical names that would cause children problems today if they were still in use. I imagine they caused some children to stumble over them when they were popular. And how little Sufferance would suffer if that Puritan name were still around! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

The mind boggles! a teacher friend of ours, after years of watching new infant pupils struggle with writing difficult names called her two boys Ben and Tom - you couldn't get any easier than that could you. Janet

Hi Liz When my granddaughter was baptised 2 years ago there was another baptism carried out, the little girl was baptised as Miami Blue Smith Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: [B&D] Do we think when we name our children? > Some names picked out from Ancestry - 1916 - 2005 > > Little Girl Reitsyv > Little Dad Smith > Little One Taylor > Little Ram > Little Pixie Geldof - we all know that one! > Little Wriggler Adaway > Summer Eve Adams > Summer Rose Adams > Hope Summer Adams > Summer Easter Rawlings > Pretty Brewer > Pretty Girl Lee > Chelsea Girl Dean > Baby Girl Gillham > Gypsy Girl Lee > Girl Power > Gypsy Girl Prince > Sunny Girl Senjack > Spring Blossom Buckle > Spring Plant > Bliss Winter Evans > Winter Rose Meadows > Del Boy Bexley - Yes, true! > Sunny Boy Booth > Danny Boy Botterill > Grubby Iva D Sa > Artist Pilgrim Noel > Emmanuel Love of God O Oloyede > Honey Kitten Wingate > Tom Cat Proctor > Leaf Garland > Cedar Leaf Kraus > Leaf Oakes > Willow Leaf P A Plumridge > Autumn Beach > > And last but not least...how about this one!!! > > Somerset Arthur Leigh-Wood - yes, honest just look. Born Somerset Feb > 2003. > > I just wonder how some children cope when they start school. > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Some names picked out from Ancestry - 1916 - 2005 Little Girl Reitsyv Little Dad Smith Little One Taylor Little Ram Little Pixie Geldof - we all know that one! Little Wriggler Adaway Summer Eve Adams Summer Rose Adams Hope Summer Adams Summer Easter Rawlings Pretty Brewer Pretty Girl Lee Chelsea Girl Dean Baby Girl Gillham Gypsy Girl Lee Girl Power Gypsy Girl Prince Sunny Girl Senjack Spring Blossom Buckle Spring Plant Bliss Winter Evans Winter Rose Meadows Del Boy Bexley - Yes, true! Sunny Boy Booth Danny Boy Botterill Grubby Iva D Sa Artist Pilgrim Noel Emmanuel Love of God O Oloyede Honey Kitten Wingate Tom Cat Proctor Leaf Garland Cedar Leaf Kraus Leaf Oakes Willow Leaf P A Plumridge Autumn Beach And last but not least...how about this one!!! Somerset Arthur Leigh-Wood - yes, honest just look. Born Somerset Feb 2003. I just wonder how some children cope when they start school. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset

I think most people are familiar with the exclamation of surprise, if not the (alleged) origins*. If anyone is in the Bristol area, specifically Ashton Court on 25 Sept, the 54th Gordon Bennett Cup for gas balloons is taking place. It's the first time this race has taken place in this country. www.gordonbennett2010.com/ * There really was a Gordon Bennett. Whether or not he was the origin of the exclamation is another matter :)) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6226293.stm -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

For those not already aware: FindMyPast now have the recods for Chelsea Pensioners between 1873 and 1900. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Just starting on BBC2 and I know there are people out there who had ancestors who were Pill Pilots. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset

Do you know who William's parents were? My G G Grandfather Robert Cox was bt 1809 at Mangotsfield to John Cox & Sara Morris. He had a an older brother William bt 1796 at Mangotsfield. This appears to be the only William Cox baptised in Mangotsfield between 1770 and 1825. Up to now I have not been able to trace an family of William. In my COX database in the 1841 and 1851 census I have a William and Hester living in Staple Hill which looks like your family. My Cox family moved towards Kingswood then St George from around 1850 and were in the "Stone" business being Stone Masons, Stone Merchants and later Monumental Masons. My G Grandfather Robert H Cox bought a Stone business in Temple Back previously owned by his older cousin William Cox bt 1825 Mangotsfield. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Sent: 28 May 2010 21:59 To: bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com Subject: [B&D] COX - Mangotsfield and Staple Hill I wonder if anyone might have this COX family in their tree? William COX and Hester. 8 children mainly baptised in Mangotsfield Mary Ann 1821 Emma 1821 John 1825 Charlotte 1826 William 1828 James 1832 Elizabeth c.1834 Henry c.1838 Charlotte is the one I'm interested in. She married Charles SHEPPARD in 1846 They had at least 7 children Charlotte Cox SHEPPARD 1854 William 1854/5 Thomas 1857 Maria 1863 Henry Charles 1865 George 1867 Alfred Charles 1870 I know several members of our list have COX in their family - are there any connections here? Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2901 - Release Date: 05/28/10 07:25:00

I wonder if anyone might have this COX family in their tree? William COX and Hester. 8 children mainly baptised in Mangotsfield Mary Ann 1821 Emma 1821 John 1825 Charlotte 1826 William 1828 James 1832 Elizabeth c.1834 Henry c.1838 Charlotte is the one I'm interested in. She married Charles SHEPPARD in 1846 They had at least 7 children Charlotte Cox SHEPPARD 1854 William 1854/5 Thomas 1857 Maria 1863 Henry Charles 1865 George 1867 Alfred Charles 1870 I know several members of our list have COX in their family - are there any connections here? Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset