sorry a correction likely a first cousin a child of one of his parents sisters or brothers On 1-Oct-10, at 8:40 AM, roger baynton wrote: > I'm not sure if 'Bristol & District' goes out as far as Lacock - > probably > not, but my query is more of a genral genealogical nature and > refers to the > Baynton family who eventually ended up in Bedminster sensibly > brewing beer!! > Wilts & Swindon History Centre holds a book "Annals & Antiquities > of LACOCK > ABBEY in the County of Wilts by Rev W L Bowles published 1835" > In the accounts quoted therein is > ~ "Survey of 1535 ... Fees. To Edward Baynton Knt* Chief Steward > of the > Monastry for his yearly fee £2 13s 4d * Of Bromham; Cousin German > to the > Abbess, whose mother was Jane Baynton, his aunt" Sir Edward is the > son of my > 14th Great Grand Uncle. But my query is, what is a "Cousin German " > I think > that it is the same as a first cousin. Am I right. Is it just a > term which > has fallen into disuse since the book was published in 1835 ? > > Best wishes to all > > > Roger Baynton > > *´¨) > ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) > (¸.·´ (¸.·` * Roger > > > Before printing, think about the environment > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

next of Kin, cousin German likely a child of one of his sisters or brothers as leaving a will, the person died without issue, and without leaving any brothers or sisters german or cosanguinean or their descendants, and without being survived by his father or by any paternal uncles or aunts; and the petitioner is thus one of his next of kin On 1-Oct-10, at 8:45 AM, liverpud wrote: > Hi, Could be a cousin with the surname German, Jerman, Jarmin, > Jarman, > etc. > > All the best, > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "roger baynton" <[email protected]> > To: "Bristol & Dist Roots web" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:40 AM > Subject: [B&D] Cousin German > > > I'm not sure if 'Bristol & District' goes out as far as Lacock - > probably > not, but my query is more of a genral genealogical nature and > refers to the > Baynton family who eventually ended up in Bedminster sensibly > brewing beer!! > Wilts & Swindon History Centre holds a book "Annals & Antiquities > of LACOCK > ABBEY in the County of Wilts by Rev W L Bowles published 1835" > In the accounts quoted therein is > ~ "Survey of 1535 ... Fees. To Edward Baynton Knt* Chief Steward > of the > Monastry for his yearly fee £2 13s 4d * Of Bromham; Cousin German > to the > Abbess, whose mother was Jane Baynton, his aunt" Sir Edward is the > son of my > 14th Great Grand Uncle. But my query is, what is a "Cousin German " > I think > that it is the same as a first cousin. Am I right. Is it just a > term which > has fallen into disuse since the book was published in 1835 ? > > Best wishes to all > > > Roger Baynton > > *´¨) > ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) > (¸.·´ (¸.·` * Roger > > > Before printing, think about the environment > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: FFHS-NEWS British Isles Vital Records Index 2nd Edition Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:43:08 +0100 From: News from the Federation of Family History Societies A breakdown of the records appearing in the 2nd edition of the British Isles Vital Record Index from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can be seen at http://genoot.com/downloads/BVRI2/. The numbers in the tables indicate the number of records for that county. Clicking on the numbers will retrieve a pdf file with the breakdown showing individual parishes and the periods covered. This is particularly useful as it has details for many Free Church and other congregations' records. Thanks to Chris Paton's blog for this information - http://scottishancestry.blogspot.com Roger Lewry FFHS Archives Liaison -------- Original Message ends -------- -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi, not quite the same but I've had forms returned to me because I haven't put my second Christian name on the form................I don't have one!!! Lin

Liz,after many years of trying,I finally was accepted in to a Local Building Society. The reason for me NOT being able to join was I didn't have a Passport Or a Driving LIcence. I did produce my Birth Certificate along with a current Bill for Gas and another Bill for Electricity,along with a Water Bill. All of them,including my birth certificate showed my Current Address. Yes,Ive lived in the same house since my Birth 64 years ago.[I'm actually 64 on Saturday October the second.] None of the above however was accepted by the Building Society. But after a word with the Manager,she finally found me after several attempts of looking,at the "Electoral Register". I even mentioned the fact that my family had lived in the same street here in Canton,Cardiff for the last 95 years. Which didn't mean a hill of beans to her. Her rules were Their Rules. You should see the Trouble I get when I want to take out any of My OWN money from there. Anything over 500 quid means an Inquisition. Still,Its for my own protection. Cheers Graham. -- Graham Williams.of Canton,Cardiff. Glam;FHS;#551. "Genealogy",Where Progress is made going Backwards."

"robert williams" said > Its for my own protection. Where have I heard that before? Or maybe it was "it's for your own good" Gil CROOME Searching for elusive CROOMEs world-wide but particularly the antecedents of John Croome who threw himself in the well in St Chloe Green in 1844 (I don't think he had either a passport or a driving licence!).

On 27/09/2010 15:25, Liz wrote: > That is absolutely ridiculous. My passport is my best ID as it has my > photograph on it as well as my address. I don't have any bills - all my > bills are now Paperless Bills and I do not print them out. My youngest son has returned home & wanted to re register with our doctor down the road .He took his driver's licence but of course has no utility bill to prove he lives here so has to wait for a bank statement or similar Ann

On 27/09/2010 15:29, Charani wrote: > Liz wrote: >> That is absolutely ridiculous. My passport is my best ID as it has my >> photograph on it as well as my address. I don't have any bills - all my >> bills are now Paperless Bills and I do not print them out. I could have >> anyone's debit or credit card...who's to know it's mine, it doesn't have my >> address on it. How about my driving licence? You can't get a bank account >> without a passport these days, what is the world coming to. It was a lot >> easier in gran's days!!! > Your driving licence is OK. > > I'd be stuffed if I needed a passport to open a bank account. I don't > have one, nor a driving licence. You are a non person then like me .I had a problem trying to pay in an Irish cheque at HSBC .Very suspicious activity ! > It definitely was easier back when. For a start people trusted one > another. > >

Liz wrote: > That is absolutely ridiculous. My passport is my best ID as it has my > photograph on it as well as my address. I don't have any bills - all my > bills are now Paperless Bills and I do not print them out. I could have > anyone's debit or credit card...who's to know it's mine, it doesn't have my > address on it. How about my driving licence? You can't get a bank account > without a passport these days, what is the world coming to. It was a lot > easier in gran's days!!! Your driving licence is OK. I'd be stuffed if I needed a passport to open a bank account. I don't have one, nor a driving licence. It definitely was easier back when. For a start people trusted one another. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

That is absolutely ridiculous. My passport is my best ID as it has my photograph on it as well as my address. I don't have any bills - all my bills are now Paperless Bills and I do not print them out. I could have anyone's debit or credit card...who's to know it's mine, it doesn't have my address on it. How about my driving licence? You can't get a bank account without a passport these days, what is the world coming to. It was a lot easier in gran's days!!! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> > They don't accept passports as ID!! Nor Readers Tickets from TNA or > library cards. Utility bills or any official letter with your name > and address and credit/debit cards are OK.

Brad Rogers wrote: > Somerset: Accept CARN cards they issue, but *not* those issued by > anybody else. Thereby rendering the whole idea of CARN cards > redundant. > > {sigh} Precisely. You also aren't allowed to have more than one CARN card, apparently. However, the system is being phased out it seems. I wonder if this has anything to do with the disbandment of the Museums and Archives Council. My card was issued by Gloucester which is a record office I've only ever visited once and won't be visiting again any time soon. My last one was issued by Dorset. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:21:20 +0100 Charani <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Charani, > accept a CARN card as ID, is beyond me. Seems like an unnecessary > duplication of effort to me. Somerset: Accept CARN cards they issue, but *not* those issued by anybody else. Thereby rendering the whole idea of CARN cards redundant. {sigh} -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent"

Liz wrote: > I will have my passport with me! I'm not really looking forward to it as > I'm sure it's going to be manic trying to find where everything is...hope > the staff know! They don't accept passports as ID!! Nor Readers Tickets from TNA or library cards. Utility bills or any official letter with your name and address and credit/debit cards are OK. I'm sure the staff will know where things are and they aren't fully booked for Thursday either so maybe not as manic as you fear :)) > All these cards we have are a big problem. I need my CARN card in Truro. > No identification needed in Bristol. Special card needed for Sheffield > Archives. Think my CARN card works in Matlock. All very confusing. It is confusing. Matlock issues their own cards but will accept a CARN card as ID. Why they insist on issuing their own card when they accept a CARN card as ID, is beyond me. Seems like an unnecessary duplication of effort to me. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Don't worry, you'll hear all about it on Saturday! I had a day at Tiverton Museum - they hold records for a lot of Devon and are very helpful. Also a day at the BRO. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Sage" <[email protected]> > Seeth...fume. I'm jealous! <vbg> > > Ian

I will have my passport with me! I'm not really looking forward to it as I'm sure it's going to be manic trying to find where everything is...hope the staff know! All these cards we have are a big problem. I need my CARN card in Truro. No identification needed in Bristol. Special card needed for Sheffield Archives. Think my CARN card works in Matlock. All very confusing. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Somerset Heritage Centre > Liz wrote: >> We'll tell you what it's like as we are booked in for Thursday. > > Would appreciate that, thanks :)) > > From a conversation I've had with one of the archivists, the fiche > readers and document tables are all in one room now. They're also > expecting a number of people to call in on spec just to have a look > around. > > It seems the CARN card system is being phased out but nothing is known > about a possible replacement - if any.

Ian Sage wrote: > On 27/09/2010 13:00, Liz wrote: >> We'll tell you what it's like as we are booked in for Thursday. >> Liz >> www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery >> OPC for Street, Somerset > Seeth...fume. I'm jealous! <vbg> They are open on Saturday. Maybe you could combine the bunfight with a visit to the Heritage Centre ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

On 27/09/2010 13:00, Liz wrote: > We'll tell you what it's like as we are booked in for Thursday. > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset Seeth...fume. I'm jealous! <vbg> Ian

Liz wrote: > We'll tell you what it's like as we are booked in for Thursday. Would appreciate that, thanks :)) From a conversation I've had with one of the archivists, the fiche readers and document tables are all in one room now. They're also expecting a number of people to call in on spec just to have a look around. It seems the CARN card system is being phased out but nothing is known about a possible replacement - if any. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

We'll tell you what it's like as we are booked in for Thursday. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset

The new Somerset Record Office opens today. It's now the Somerset Heritage Centre because it incorporates the local studies library as well as the archives and other collections which have previously been scattered around the county. One of the major changes is that they no longer accept CARN cards issued at other record offices/archives. They will only accept those issued by themselves, so be prepared to take ID with you. There is a slight change to their opening hours as well, including alternate Saturday opening from 2 October. Full details can be found at http://www1.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ I was intending to be there today but, unfortunately, family matters have prevented it :(( -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/