Liz, Thanks for making the arrangements for this year's Bunfight. It was a very productive meeting again, with lots of suggestions for future research and great to meet up with old and new friends. Have just had a look at the 1881 census for the Salt House at Clevedon and realised that the choice of meeting place was well made - not only were there connections with the HANCOCK family within the group but also a Martha SAGE was a servant there - any connection Ian? The HANCOCKS were there for many years - members of the family were resident in 1881, 1891 and 1901 - They must have been very settled there. Pat

Hi Liz, Mike Gould just sent me some photos that he took, of Salt House and of some of the old photos on the walls. Fascinating! Thanks again, Mike! Liz, when are you setting out on your travels? Best wishes, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ELIZABETH NEWBERY Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks Hi Margaret All the photos were of old Clevedon. We took some photos of the bunfighters. They will be put on my web site once I get home in December! Best wishes Liz --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Margaret Hayon <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Margaret Hayon <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 7:06 > Hi Liz, Glad it all went > well!!   Very sorry I wasn't able to be there > - > maybe next year..... > > I'm wondering whether any HANCOCK ghosts emerged???  > Or old photos etc? > Would love to see photos of the building if anybody took > any. > > Best wishes, > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of ELIZABETH > NEWBERY > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > > Thank you Charani and thank you to everyone who supported > us.  It was great > and hopefully we will have another bunfight next > year.  > > My family kindly took me to Temple Meads after and the > train was on time in > Brum.  My friend and I have just finished the day off > with a lovely bottle > of champagne...good thing I'm not trying to do any family > history now!! > > Best wishes to you all. > > Liz > > --- On Sat, 2/10/10, Charani <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: Charani <[email protected]> > > Subject: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > > To: "B+D List" <[email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, 2 October, 2010, 19:13 > > To Liz for organising another > > successful bunfight. > > > > As usual there was plenty of talk, a number of > discoveries > > and a few > > surprises. > > > > I hope everyone travels safely. > > > > -- > > Charani (UK) > > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > __________ NOD32 5498 (20101002) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 5500 (20101003) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Hi Margaret All the photos were of old Clevedon. We took some photos of the bunfighters. They will be put on my web site once I get home in December! Best wishes Liz --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Margaret Hayon <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Margaret Hayon <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 7:06 > Hi Liz, Glad it all went > well!!   Very sorry I wasn't able to be there > - > maybe next year..... > > I'm wondering whether any HANCOCK ghosts emerged???  > Or old photos etc? > Would love to see photos of the building if anybody took > any. > > Best wishes, > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of ELIZABETH > NEWBERY > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > > Thank you Charani and thank you to everyone who supported > us.  It was great > and hopefully we will have another bunfight next > year.  > > My family kindly took me to Temple Meads after and the > train was on time in > Brum.  My friend and I have just finished the day off > with a lovely bottle > of champagne...good thing I'm not trying to do any family > history now!! > > Best wishes to you all. > > Liz > > --- On Sat, 2/10/10, Charani <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: Charani <[email protected]> > > Subject: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > > To: "B+D List" <[email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, 2 October, 2010, 19:13 > > To Liz for organising another > > successful bunfight. > > > > As usual there was plenty of talk, a number of > discoveries > > and a few > > surprises. > > > > I hope everyone travels safely. > > > > -- > > Charani (UK) > > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > __________ NOD32 5498 (20101002) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Margaret, I took lots of photos for you of the pictures on the walls of the Salt House - they are mostly Old Clevedon ones. I'll contact you off list to make arrangements to email them. If anyone else would like me to email them too, please let me know. Thanks to Liz for another great bunfight ! Best wishes, Mike Gould Leiecestershire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Hayon Sent: 03 October 2010 07:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks Hi Liz, Glad it all went well!! Very sorry I wasn't able to be there - maybe next year..... I'm wondering whether any HANCOCK ghosts emerged??? Or old photos etc? Would love to see photos of the building if anybody took any. Best wishes, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ELIZABETH NEWBERY Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks Thank you Charani and thank you to everyone who supported us. It was great and hopefully we will have another bunfight next year. My family kindly took me to Temple Meads after and the train was on time in Brum. My friend and I have just finished the day off with a lovely bottle of champagne...good thing I'm not trying to do any family history now!! Best wishes to you all. Liz --- On Sat, 2/10/10, Charani <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Charani <[email protected]> > Subject: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > To: "B+D List" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, 2 October, 2010, 19:13 > To Liz for organising another > successful bunfight. > > As usual there was plenty of talk, a number of discoveries > and a few > surprises. > > I hope everyone travels safely. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 5498 (20101002) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz, Glad it all went well!! Very sorry I wasn't able to be there - maybe next year..... I'm wondering whether any HANCOCK ghosts emerged??? Or old photos etc? Would love to see photos of the building if anybody took any. Best wishes, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ELIZABETH NEWBERY Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Bunfight thanks Thank you Charani and thank you to everyone who supported us. It was great and hopefully we will have another bunfight next year. My family kindly took me to Temple Meads after and the train was on time in Brum. My friend and I have just finished the day off with a lovely bottle of champagne...good thing I'm not trying to do any family history now!! Best wishes to you all. Liz --- On Sat, 2/10/10, Charani <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Charani <[email protected]> > Subject: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > To: "B+D List" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, 2 October, 2010, 19:13 > To Liz for organising another > successful bunfight. > > As usual there was plenty of talk, a number of discoveries > and a few > surprises. > > I hope everyone travels safely. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 5498 (20101002) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Thank you Charani and thank you to everyone who supported us. It was great and hopefully we will have another bunfight next year. My family kindly took me to Temple Meads after and the train was on time in Brum. My friend and I have just finished the day off with a lovely bottle of champagne...good thing I'm not trying to do any family history now!! Best wishes to you all. Liz --- On Sat, 2/10/10, Charani <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Charani <[email protected]> > Subject: [B&D] Bunfight thanks > To: "B+D List" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, 2 October, 2010, 19:13 > To Liz for organising another > successful bunfight. > > As usual there was plenty of talk, a number of discoveries > and a few > surprises. > > I hope everyone travels safely. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

To Liz for organising another successful bunfight. As usual there was plenty of talk, a number of discoveries and a few surprises. I hope everyone travels safely. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Barbara Parker wrote: > Sorry to mess you about, but I have just been called in urgently. No worries :)) These things happen. > Hope to see you all some other time. Keep an eye out around Easter time for details of next year's Bunfight which is always this time of year. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Sorry to mess you about, but I have just been called in urgently. Hope to see you all some other time. Barbara On 2 October 2010 09:39, Charani <[email protected]> wrote: > Barbara Parker wrote: > > Is it too late to come to your bunfight. The event I had planned to go > to > > before I knew about your bunfight has been cancelled. > > You're more than welcome to join in :)) It's not too late yet :)) > > Just in case Liz doesn't/hasn't see/n your message, I'll let her know. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Barbara Parker wrote: > Is it too late to come to your bunfight. The event I had planned to go to > before I knew about your bunfight has been cancelled. You're more than welcome to join in :)) It's not too late yet :)) Just in case Liz doesn't/hasn't see/n your message, I'll let her know. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Is it too late to come to your bunfight. The event I had planned to go to before I knew about your bunfight has been cancelled. Barbara Parker On 12 September 2010 18:52, Liz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Just thought I would send out a final call for anyone who doesn't know > about > the Bunfight and would like to attend, I know that there are always new > members joining lists. The bunfight is for anyone with an interest in > Bristol, Somerset or Gloucestershire and surrounding areas. Those members > who have expressed a desire to attend will have just received an email from > me so, if you are interested in attending and haven't received a > confirmation email from me in the last few hours, you are not on my list. > I > hope I haven't left anyone off. > > Don't forget, we will be raising our glasses to Absent Friends so if you > would like to be mentioned, don't be shy, come forward and let us know...we > will remember you. > > The Salt House Hotel in Clevedon is our location for this year's Bunfight > which will take place on 2nd October...please do not throw buns!!! I am > hoping this location will be very successful, it's got more space than > usual > and Clevedon is really easy to reach. I will be coming from Keynsham that > morning so if anyone needs a lift, please let me know. > > If you have a laptop or notebook do bring it with you. Please bring any > CDs > you might have so that we can always share on the day. The menu will be > sent out shortly for attendees to choose their lunch. > > If any of you have any questions about the bunfight do let me know. > > I will then be leaving for my trek to New Zealand and Australia. > Unfortunately I wont be in Sydney - I know we have several members in that > area. In case anyone is interested in where I will be: Auckland, NZ; > Melbourne; Adelaide; Mandurah; Peregian Beach and Brisbane. I'll also be > in > the Emirates and Singapore but I don't know that we have any members in > those places now. > > Best wishes > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From the OED: 1. The son or daughter of (one's) uncle or aunt; (one's) first cousin; = COUSIN Now chiefly legal or technical. <However - also this:> 2. fig. A person or thing closely related or allied to another; a near relative. Formerly approaching the character of an adj.: cf. COUSIN Remember please that cousin had both its current meaning and a rather vaguer "blood relation of some sort" meaning. The quotes linked to item 2 seem to me to be somewhat figurative, e.g. 1711 ADDISON Spect. No. 13 {page}1 The Lion was a Cousin-German of the Tyger who made his Appearance in King William's days. 1822 W. IRVING Braceb. Hall (1849) 300, I had been apt to confound them [rooks] with their cousins-german, the crows. Adrian B -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 01 October 2010 17:44 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Cousin German roger baynton wrote: > I'm not sure if 'Bristol & District' goes out as far as Lacock - > probably not, but my query is more of a genral genealogical nature and > refers to the Baynton family who eventually ended up in Bedminster sensibly brewing beer!! You're OK. Your family were in Bedminster and your query could help others who are puzzling over the same term. > But my query is, what is a "Cousin German " I think that it is the > same as a first cousin. Am I right. Is it just a term which has fallen > into disuse since the book was published in 1835 ? Yes, you're right: a cousin german is a first or full cousin. It does tend to be used in an historical context now. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

roger baynton wrote: > I'm not sure if 'Bristol & District' goes out as far as Lacock - probably > not, but my query is more of a genral genealogical nature and refers to the > Baynton family who eventually ended up in Bedminster sensibly brewing beer!! You're OK. Your family were in Bedminster and your query could help others who are puzzling over the same term. > But my query is, what is a "Cousin German " I think > that it is the same as a first cousin. Am I right. Is it just a term which > has fallen into disuse since the book was published in 1835 ? Yes, you're right: a cousin german is a first or full cousin. It does tend to be used in an historical context now. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I'm not sure if 'Bristol & District' goes out as far as Lacock - probably not, but my query is more of a genral genealogical nature and refers to the Baynton family who eventually ended up in Bedminster sensibly brewing beer!! Wilts & Swindon History Centre holds a book "Annals & Antiquities of LACOCK ABBEY in the County of Wilts by Rev W L Bowles published 1835" In the accounts quoted therein is ~ "Survey of 1535 ... Fees. To Edward Baynton Knt* Chief Steward of the Monastry for his yearly fee £2 13s 4d * Of Bromham; Cousin German to the Abbess, whose mother was Jane Baynton, his aunt" Sir Edward is the son of my 14th Great Grand Uncle. But my query is, what is a "Cousin German " I think that it is the same as a first cousin. Am I right. Is it just a term which has fallen into disuse since the book was published in 1835 ? Best wishes to all Roger Baynton *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·` * Roger Before printing, think about the environment

Margaret please remind me, did a branch of your Hancock family ever live in Lower Cam near Dursley? I am racking my brain trying to think who it was that I visited at the Saltash in the late 40's early 50's. I always thought that it was a relation Jeff Peacock --- On Fri, 1/10/10, Margaret Hayon <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Margaret Hayon <[email protected]> > Subject: [B&D] Bunfighters... Salt House Clevedon > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, 1 October, 2010, 12:28 > Sending my very best wishes for the > Bunfight tomorrow! > > (and if anyone feels a strange ghostly atmosphere... it may > be my HANCOCK > ancestors... whose ancestral home this was in the late 19th > century....) > > Whoooo!!!!! > > Margaret in Galilee, Israel > > [would appreciate any photos, memorabilia, etc....] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Sending my very best wishes for the Bunfight tomorrow! (and if anyone feels a strange ghostly atmosphere... it may be my HANCOCK ancestors... whose ancestral home this was in the late 19th century....) Whoooo!!!!! Margaret in Galilee, Israel [would appreciate any photos, memorabilia, etc....]

Wow!!! Sharing your pleasure Margaret! So there is hope after all..... Margaret in Israel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MARGARET ALEXANDER Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:28 PM To: Bristol Rootsweb Subject: [B&D] Frederick GEORGE Lewis Just to let you all know that "HE IS FOUND" thanks to a wonderful lady called Janet who found his burial in the St Mary's Church, Shirehampton burial reacords.  This has been my brick wall for over four years, hopefully now I can move on !! Thank you Janet Margaret Alexander ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 5494 (20101001) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

MARGARET ALEXANDER wrote: > Just to let you all know that "HE IS FOUND" thanks to a wonderful lady called > Janet who found his burial in the St Mary's Church, Shirehampton burial > reacords. This has been my brick wall for over four years, hopefully now I can > move on !! > > Thank you Janet Congratulations and well done to Janet :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi, Could be a cousin with the surname German, Jerman, Jarmin, Jarman, etc. All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger baynton" <[email protected]> To: "Bristol & Dist Roots web" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: [B&D] Cousin German I'm not sure if 'Bristol & District' goes out as far as Lacock - probably not, but my query is more of a genral genealogical nature and refers to the Baynton family who eventually ended up in Bedminster sensibly brewing beer!! Wilts & Swindon History Centre holds a book "Annals & Antiquities of LACOCK ABBEY in the County of Wilts by Rev W L Bowles published 1835" In the accounts quoted therein is ~ "Survey of 1535 ... Fees. To Edward Baynton Knt* Chief Steward of the Monastry for his yearly fee £2 13s 4d * Of Bromham; Cousin German to the Abbess, whose mother was Jane Baynton, his aunt" Sir Edward is the son of my 14th Great Grand Uncle. But my query is, what is a "Cousin German " I think that it is the same as a first cousin. Am I right. Is it just a term which has fallen into disuse since the book was published in 1835 ? Best wishes to all Roger Baynton *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·` * Roger Before printing, think about the environment ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just to let you all know that "HE IS FOUND" thanks to a wonderful lady called Janet who found his burial in the St Mary's Church, Shirehampton burial reacords.  This has been my brick wall for over four years, hopefully now I can move on !! Thank you Janet Margaret Alexander